Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

[OMG67]

I mean we can all agree that Ekberg is more of a high end import than Körbler...still the usage by Cameron doesn't reflect that. Even the impact of the best import is gonna be limited if his role is as limited as Ekberg's. Also, imports are always a bit of a wild card as well. Not all kids doing well in Europe are gonna be impact players in the CHL, let alone instantly. There's the smaller ice but also cultural/language barriers.

There's really no point replacing Körbler for as long as Cameron is coaching. Cameron clearly likes Körbler more than Ekberg...and more than most Canadians as well. If you want a change of strategy I think you have to start with the coach. There's no point in letting players go who are actually trusted by your head coach.

Körbler is playing well and I can see why Cameron likes him but I agree his offensive output (or lack thereof) is very disappointing. I do think he has another gear and some of it may be due to his injuries but much like Stonehouse he's holding back Pinelli. If Cameron can't see that then maybe he has to go.

There are two tests coming up for Boyd. The first test is what he does at the deadline. If he stays pretty much status quo or does something even dumber and he adds, then that shows his inability to make the tougher decisions. The second is what he does with Korbler. If he retains Korbler and forfeits an early Import pick, then I am done finding ways to support him.

If all that happens, I will support a team with better management. Probably Niagara. They would be a team with better management if Boyd does those two things.

 

[Vector Calculus]

I don’t love going with 7 D. I hope with how Whitehead has been playing he gets decent ice tonight but this lineup makes me think he won’t.

 

[Vector Calculus]

No Amidovski…I also thought he’d been improving lately.

 

[OMG67]

No Amidovski…I also thought he’d been improving lately.

The flu is running through the room this last week or so. He could be sick. Or, it is just his turn to sit. DC has rotated the rookies. Not a big deal. Barrie is a tougher opponent so if he is going to sit, better it be agaisnt the class of the conference.

 

[mianjo]

0-0 after 1

Shots on Goal

Teams	1st	Total
BAR	9	9
OTT	9	9

 

[OMG67]

Eliasson is a clown. 67’s score their first goal for the Teddy Bear toss and during the 67’s post goal scrum away from the net, nowhere near any other Colts player, Eliasson decides to skate into the 67’s celebration scrum and of course all hell breaks loose. What a clown. That should be a Misconduct at least plus whatever other penalties are amassed during that fracas.

 

[Hinterland]

Epic PK shift by Dietsch, Mews, Stonehouse and Körbler. 67's need more of that.

 

[Vector Calculus]

Eliasson is a clown. 67’s score their first goal for the Teddy Bear toss and during the 67’s post goal scrum away from the net, nowhere near any other Colts player, Eliasson decides to skate into the 67’s celebration scrum and of course all hell breaks loose. What a clown. That should be a Misconduct at least plus whatever other penalties are amassed during that fracas.

I missed how all that started while watching the bears fly and celebrating the goal, but Elisasson has been at it all night so I’m not surprised at all. Two others things I think are true: (a) this is exactly the game the refs asked for with how it was called (and not called) early, and (b) we have still not learned anything about needing to be disciplined given how abysmal our PK is. Horner steps in after a hit that was in the neighborhood of head contact and gets the obvious instigator putting us down and they score on the PP. What lesson does that teach h Barrie? Go ahead and cheap shot our players because we will retaliate and you can score on the ensuing power play…

 

[OMG67]

I missed how all that started while watching the bears fly and celebrating the goal, but Elisasson has been at it all night so I’m not surprised at all. Two others things I think are true: (a) this is exactly the game the refs asked for with how it was called (and not called) early, and (b) we have still not learned anything about needing to be disciplined given how abysmal our PK is. Horner steps in after a hit that was in the neighborhood of head contact and gets the obvious instigator putting us down and they score on the PP. What lesson does that teach h Barrie? Go ahead and cheap shot our players because we will retaliate and you can score on the ensuing power play…

The replay shows that was nowhere near an instigator.

 

[Vector Calculus]

The replay shows that was nowhere near an instigator.

The rulebook is super clear - challenging someone to fight after a hit is an automatic instigator.

 

[OMG67]

The rulebook is super clear - challenging someone to fight after a hit is an automatic instigator.
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He didn’t immediately confront the player. That took quite a while to unfold. If you took the letter of the law on that then Instigators would almost always accompany a fight.

Horner came in on Aitcheson and they separated and kept jawing at each other from a distance and they both ended up engaging. As soon as the two players separated (in this case by about 15 feet), the instigator penalty no longer applies. If Horner had stayed engaged with Aitcheson physically and it resulted in a fight then I’d agree but when the two players separate and there is ample opportunity for Aitcheson to simply skate away undeterred, then there is no instigator penalty. Aitcheson chose to participate.

 

[OMG67]

Nelson back to his normal level again this week. Like I mentioned in that London game, he started losing his crease and his movement was exaggerated. He has been a lot more calm in the crease the last couple games. I think the nerves got to him vs London.

I’m not sure if we have seen the last of MacKenzie or not but it certainly looks like this may be the end of the road for him.

This game is what I am talking about when I say the 67s would remain competitive even without Pinelli. They may not win the tough games but it is still entertaining and the games won’t typically get out of hand. Scores will be close. The team plays uptempo enough to stay in games. They may not make the playoffs but they will stay away from bottoming out if they only move Pinelli.

 

[AGranderson]

If We play that well going forward there will be a lot of wins coming,

 

[OMG67]

If We play that well going forward there will be a lot of wins coming,

Gonna be tough. Next game is at home vs Peterborough so we should win that game. But, after that we have 9 straight on the road leading up to the deadline. Next home game would be January 8. It is going to be a tough ride the next stretch of games leading up to the deadline. 4-4-2 over that stretch would have to be considered a massive win for Ottawa over that stretch. But, I agree, the way they played today was solid.

 

[gadder]

Yes, a solid game. Scrappy too and we didn't back down though perhaps it'd be better if we did occasionally since we'll never win a physical series. A game yes. A series no. I presume it's the new goalie as backup? Counldn't read the number.

 

[Vector Calculus]

Yes, a solid game. Scrappy too and we didn't back down though perhaps it'd be better if we did occasionally since we'll never win a physical series. A game yes. A series no. I presume it's the new goalie as backup? Counldn't read the number.

Yeah Donovan has backed up both games this weekend.

 

[OMG67]

Yeah Donovan has backed up both games this weekend.

The answer we don’t have yet is whether he will serve as the #2 or will he be the local #3 in case of injury? I think Conway is now back in JrA/B where he needs to be as a 17 year old. I think that is more ideal. But, Conway really was the #3. So is Donovan replacing Conway or is he replacing MacK? That is the question we don’t have an answer for yet.

 

[sirius67fan]

There are two tests coming up for Boyd. The first test is what he does at the deadline. If he stays pretty much status quo or does something even dumber and he adds, then that shows his inability to make the tougher decisions. The second is what he does with Korbler. If he retains Korbler and forfeits an early Import pick, then I am done finding ways to support him.

If all that happens, I will support a team with better management. Probably Niagara. They would be a team with better management if Boyd does those two things.

Niagara...ouch! That hurts OMG Boyd will never be the same lol.

 

[sirius67fan]

Best game I've attended this year. Good pace and physicality by both teams and clean hockey. Too bad the refs didn't control the after the whistle crap. If they would have called a few early a lot of that wouldn't have happened. Good effort by the boys.

If We play that well going forward there will be a lot of wins coming,

I wish I could agree but it's a reflection of the year. We compete well, stay in games but we can't score. I can't see us winning many especially if Pinelli goes...as he should.

 

[Vector Calculus]

Best game I've attended this year. Good pace and physicality by both teams and clean hockey. Too bad the refs didn't control the after the whistle crap. If they would have called a few early a lot of that wouldn't have happened. Good effort by the boys.


I wish I could agree but it's a reflection of the year. We compete well, stay in games but we can't score. I can't see us winning many especially if Pinelli goes...as he should.

100% - I mentioned it earlier but the refs got the game they asked for through their (in)actions early. Both teams played hard and it was an entertaining game. As others have mentioned this is what I expect the rest of the way - hard working, close games, losing more often than not…but as long as they are competing and the games are fun to watch the record doesn’t bother me as long as we make the right moves to set us up for the next few years. No reason to buy anything and if we don’t move at least Pinelli (as much as I will miss him) I’ll be supremely annoyed.

 

[sirius67fan]

Nelson back to his normal level again this week. Like I mentioned in that London game, he started losing his crease and his movement was exaggerated. He has been a lot more calm in the crease the last couple games. I think the nerves got to him vs London.

I’m not sure if we have seen the last of MacKenzie or not but it certainly looks like this may be the end of the road for him.

This game is what I am talking about when I say the 67s would remain competitive even without Pinelli. They may not win the tough games but it is still entertaining and the games won’t typically get out of hand. Scores will be close. The team plays uptempo enough to stay in games. They may not make the playoffs but they will stay away from bottoming out if they only move Pinelli.

Yeah good on Nelson, shows resiliency to brush off a game like that and come back strong, we have a good one there. Ithink you're being a bit overoptimistic if Pinelli goes. We already can't score so I do think some games will get out of hand. But we need to trade him.

 

[sirius67fan]

Like I said about Korbler, if he weren’t an Import, he’d be fine as a player that can move up and down the lineup on the right side, especially considering we don’t have many right hand shots. My issue is why they kept him in the first place. We get an Import pick every year but if we keep two on the roster, we cannot trade the pick. We have to forfeit it. So, it made no sense to keep him. I look at Uronen with his 16 goals and 37 points playing RW on Kingston and wonder what went through Boyd and Cameron’s mind when they made that decision to keep Korbler over Uronen. It was so stupid. Like insanely stupid. There is no way we are going to toss away an Import pick in the next draft.

But, again, if Korbler would have been a North American like Caden Kelly for example, then it would be fine to keep him. Keeping him wouldn’t forfeit another player or pick. But, with Korbler, it does.

I know it sounds like I pick on Korbler but really I am picking on Boyd and Cameron for their dumb ass decision in the offseason.

I was so wrong on this one. I was an advocate of keeping him over Uronen as he was a year younger and after the second half last year I thought he had a higher ceiling. Alas and I know the kid was hurt but you can't have an import with 0 goals. He has to go. Good kid, works hard but it's just not enough.

 

[AGranderson]

Uronen went to Kingston because his best friend plays there and asked to go there because he was fighting being home sick, now they live together and he’s doing ok

 

[OMG67]

100% - I mentioned it earlier but the refs got the game they asked for through their (in)actions early. Both teams played hard and it was an entertaining game. As others have mentioned this is what I expect the rest of the way - hard working, close games, losing more often than not…but as long as they are competing and the games are fun to watch the record doesn’t bother me as long as we make the right moves to set us up for the next few years. No reason to buy anything and if we don’t move at least Pinelli (as much as I will miss him) I’ll be supremely annoyed.

And I think this is 100% the way we need to look at it. I recognize it is time to rebuild and I appreciate that they want to do more and get better results but I am 100% happy if they move Pinelli, keep playing and upbeat tempo game and remain somewhat competitive and entertaining. I don’t care if they miss the playoffs provided they commit to a rebuild. I honestly don’t think they need to trade any more than Pinelli this year and Mews next year. That should provide enough asset support to build the next competitive window 67s group.

 

[beastintheeast]

I was so wrong on this one. I was an advocate of keeping him over Uronen as he was a year younger and after the second half last year I thought he had a higher ceiling. Alas and I know the kid was hurt but you can't have an import with 0 goals. He has to go. Good kid, works hard but it's just not enough.

Wasn't Korbler DC's boy last year. I agree that if given a choice, Uronene would have the better stats, but then again, if you are building, then considering he did not look out of place for a rookie last year on the team, korbler was the choice. There is nothing we can do at this stage we have what we have.

As for Mack, I think there is a forward problem that needs to be dealt with. We are going to be short forwards with Pinelli and Ekberg gone, so having both Gerrior and Stonehouse in the lineup is mandatory unless you are going to bring up a couple of rookies.

This forces Boyd and the coching staff to go with Anderson and Nelson. If it works out then I think we are saying good by to MacK. The deadline is going to tell us a lot.