Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

[Generalsupdates]

I don’t think anyone cares about three stars anymore.

Mike Farwell does. That's why I assumed this must be him lol

 

[All the Answers]

Mike Farwell? Or does every Kitchener fan really, really care about 3 stars?

I care about it. I'm far from Farwell.

 

[beastintheeast]

It isn’t that you make off base remarks. It is the volume of them and you do not provide any balance.

I criticize DC but I also point out the positives. I highlight both sides.

For example, DC is a good systems coach. I don’t think anyone can argue that. He has his teams well prepared for games. Sure, maybe there is the odd stinker but it happens in Junior hockey. His ability to prepare his team and install a system that wins hockey games is very very good. The challenge with that is his teams start out better than others and it creates a false sense of optimism. Other teams start slower and build momentum. Not these DC 67’s teams. We saw it this weekend with OS. OS is a team we should beat handily if they are the team some on here suggest they are but we barely squeezed by with a win. Why? It is because even the weaker teams are starting to catch their stride. But, at the end of the day, his players play hockey the right way. That speaks volumes as to how good he is.

Where DC is weak? He has a tendency to overplay his veteran players. Maybe this affects the progress of younger players but the younger players that play the game right and ut forth the effort seem to get more ice than the others. Case in point, Horner, Houben and Korbler. None of these players provide the stability and results that justify their ice time but they play DC’s way and put forth significant effort every shift. So, they play. Other younger players that don’t put forth the same effort end up playing less, even if they are future elite players.

We’ve had a handful of players all not want to be in Ottawa. It points to the coach. It is what it is. It shows that he may not be the best at communicating with the players. So, from my perspective, do we want a 67 year old coach that seems to be lacking the ability to connect with players to restart this next rebuild? THAT is the question we need to ask. IMO, we shouldn’t want that regardless of how good DC is at preparing his teams.

Kilrea just turned 90. He was fine thorugh around 70-71. After that? His teams started to be a lot more inconsistent. His moves as a GM were highly questionable. I think when coaches start getting close to 70, you really need to separate their past fromt heir present and really take a strong and hard look at whether you wan tthe coach for another cycle. We ar win a position heading into next season where we will be in year one of the next cycle. It could end up being a 4 year cycle. So, the choice to keep DC isn’t about next year, it is about the next four years. Should he be here for another full cycle. That’s the question.

I tend to understand what you are saying. Also, the fact that Cameron is coaching the WJC team says something about him. But I do not see a developmental coach.

As to your idea of all players drafted unless they stand out playing in CJHL is a very good one. Consider that 3 of the rookies you talk about played CJHL or OJHL last year. They got that playing against older men. It makes a whole lot of sense. This could even include a late first round pick or one that is not seeing ice time. Whitehead would have benefitted more from playing in Navan or Smith Falls last year than sitting on the bench. The same with Amidovski. Would it not have been better? again, all we heard about at the draft was how much of a team player and hard worker he was. Maybe another year of eating mom's cooking and playing OJHL would have been better for him.

But as you mentioned, I can not get my mind around taking a high-ranked NHL draft pick this year; he was highly thought of by the scouts as a player who is leading rookie points in the league, and then putting him on the 4th line. I agree he may not be working out as a center, and that is fine. Play him on the wing. That is where he Played most of his time. BUT 4TH LINE

 

[OMG67]

I tend to understand what you are saying. Also, the fact that Cameron is coaching the WJC team says something about him. But I do not see a developmental coach.

As to your idea of all players drafted unless they stand out playing in CJHL is a very good one. Consider that 3 of the rookies you talk about played CJHL or OJHL last year. They got that playing against older men. It makes a whole lot of sense. This could even include a late first round pick or one that is not seeing ice time. Whitehead would have benefitted more from playing in Navan or Smith Falls last year than sitting on the bench. The same with Amidovski. Would it not have been better? again, all we heard about at the draft was how much of a team player and hard worker he was. Maybe another year of eating mom's cooking and playing OJHL would have been better for him.

But as you mentioned, I can not get my mind around taking a high-ranked NHL draft pick this year; he was highly thought of by the scouts as a player who is leading rookie points in the league, and then putting him on the 4th line. I agree he may not be working out as a center, and that is fine. Play him on the wing. That is where he Played most of his time. BUT 4TH LINE

Sending 16 year olds down to Tier II works really well for the Knights. It worked well for Jack Quinn. Maybe that should be the route heavier travelled for the 67’s.

 

[BarberPole9]

Man oh man you are difficult to listen to
Let me tell you one thing right now I’ve said it before and I don’t want to say it again

Stonehouse injury gave him absolutely no pain, his nhl team told him he didn’t need to get surgery right away, why do you keep saying this stuff about playing injured players in the playoffs, he was absolutely fine in fact him Dever & Horner was our best line.


I hate to be rude but with every post you prove to every single one of us you don’t understand the game of hockey and the business side of it this day and age. Find a new team to cheer for all you do is bitc* every single day it’s absolutely exhausting to listen to daily.

Trust me, us the Mute button. You won’t regret it.

 

[NoQuit67s]

I care about it. I'm far from Farwell.

If it makes you feel any better, Ottawa lost to Oshawa in a shootout (essentially a tie game in Ottawa) and all 3 stars were from Oshawa...

 

[All the Answers]

If it makes you feel any better, Ottawa lost to Oshawa in a shootout (essentially a tie game in Ottawa) and all 3 stars were from Oshawa...

It doesn't. I would rather everything be as unbiased as possible... the 3 stars are an easy get.

If that's what you want to do, that's fine, just call them the "(insert home team name here) 3 stars" and be up front with it. In Kitchener the players get a small monetary value award/gift certificate (worth about $50 last I heard). I want that going to who deserves it... truth be told, and I'm dead serious, I wonder if the NCAA ruling/eligibility will affect this going forward and the legality of the Rangers continuing it.

 

[44 95 plus tax]

I don’t think anyone cares about three stars anymore.



McCue should have been a star over Pinelli without a doubt in my mind.

Mews with 2+2 and Stonehouse with the game winner and was a massive distraction for OS drawing at least two penalties. I get those two. But, Pinelli was half useless yesterday. He just backed into two points.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858267324454760877

 

[ohloutsider]

It doesn't. I would rather everything be as unbiased as possible... the 3 stars are an easy get.

If that's what you want to do, that's fine, just call them the "(insert home team name here) 3 stars" and be up front with it. In Kitchener the players get a small monetary value award/gift certificate (worth about $50 last I heard). I want that going to who deserves it... truth be told, and I'm dead serious, I wonder if the NCAA ruling/eligibility will affect this going forward and the legality of the Rangers continuing it.

FWIW Windsor lost yesterday in the Soo and Windsor's goalie was named 1st star. So it does work the way it should in some cities.

 

[OMG67]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858267324454760877

THE OHL site has it as Stonehouse with the 3rd star.

 

[sirius67fan]

Want to talk about Mews a bit and not just because of the last game as he's been much better the last 3 weeks or so. I was a bit harsh on him as I didn't like his effort/ body language. However to his credit he seems to have turned a corner. He's been much better and not just offensively. Nice to see because he's a very talented kid. I know about all the rumours/reports of him wanting a change which may be true or not ( as we are not in the inner circle). But by playing this way he's certainly doing himself and the 67's a favor if he ends up on the move.

 

[sirius67fan]

Nelson still not able to go so that will put us with the same lineup as Friday unfortunately

People on this thread won't be surprised by what I'll say next because he's my favorite player. Scratching Gerrior 3 games in a row! I feel awful for the kid as he gives 100% every game. The only other comparable on this team is Pinelli in that respect. I know we've got an OA issue and Nelson being sick likely cost him Sunday's game but just an awful way to treat him imo. Yes Mac had to be there and difficult to sit Mayich with our D but they should have sat Stoney sunday in fairness. This OA thing is unfair to all 4 and needs to be settled asap.

 

[All the Answers]

THE OHL site has it as Stonehouse with the 3rd star.

And I'm not sure how the various choices work, but I know there are 3 selected by the media at the game, and they sometimes don't jive with the OHL shown choices. Don't know why

 

[beastintheeast]

Sending 16 year olds down to Tier II works really well for the Knights. It worked well for Jack Quinn. Maybe that should be the route heavier travelled for the 67’s.

It makes more sense than sitting players on the bench and not playing them.

 

[beastintheeast]

THE OHL site has it as Stonehouse with the 3rd star.

Was there not an award given to the player that had the most 3-star nominations, or was that a booster club thing?

It meant a little to the players because the award was not so shabby, if I remember. Also, the three stars have always been a conversation piece after the game. It used to be the talk across the street between the players and fans and at Rick's Cantina amongst a few of us who congregated there.
I think I remember somebody thinking it should be the Aln MacAuley award as no matter how he played he usually got a star lOL

 

[44 95 plus tax]

Was there not an award given to the player that had the most 3-star nominations, or was that a booster club thing?

It meant a little to the players because the award was not so shabby, if I remember. Also, the three stars have always been a conversation piece after the game. It used to be the talk across the street between the players and fans and at Rick's Cantina amongst a few of us who congregated there.
I think I remember somebody thinking it should be the Aln MacAuley award as no matter how he played he usually got a star lOL

I seem to remember that Andrew Cassels probably had a bathroom full of Brute products that they gave to first star winners every game for a couple of years.

 

[beastintheeast]

I seem to remember that Andrew Cassels probably had a bathroom full of Brute products that they gave to first star winners every game for a couple of years.

Yeah but there was an award that wsa given at the end of each month I think it might ahve been a Booster Club thing but it still was usually a pretty good deal. @OMG67 should remember. I know he was around the club then, also.

 

[OMG67]

Yeah but there was an award that wsa given at the end of each month I think it might ahve been a Booster Club thing but it still was usually a pretty good deal. @OMG67 should remember. I know he was around the club then, also.

I think hey gave out a “hardest working” player of the game award. I don’t remember the BC giving anything to the three stars. The LEague may have had a sponsorship deal.

 

[44 95 plus tax]

I think hey gave out a “hardest working” player of the game award. I don’t remember the BC giving anything to the three stars. The LEague may have had a sponsorship deal.

It was an OHL sponsorship deal with Brute. 1st star of the game got a Brute product package.

 

[OMG67]

It was an OHL sponsorship deal with Brute. 1st star of the game got a Brute product package.

Yes but I think a few years after that the Booster club gave a hardest working player award which was some form of Gift Certificate I think. I’m pretty sure Dick named the player and gave it on ice after the three stars were announced. I can’t remember how long they did it. It’s been too many years since then. That would have been between 1995 and 1999. The award you are talking about would have been around 1991 or so.

 

[beastintheeast]

Yes but I think a few years after that the Booster club gave a hardest working player award which was some form of Gift Certificate I think. I’m pretty sure Dick named the player and gave it on ice after the three stars were announced. I can’t remember how long they did it. It’s been too many years since then. That would have been between 1995 and 1999. The award you are talking about would have been around 1991 or so.

It was a group effort of the people that were at the table or Dick talked to.

There was an award much like the one kitchener stil has where points were awarded and the player with the most points got an award for some reason Pepsi comes to mind but not sure

 

[beastintheeast]

Is Nelson back? If not this is going to be a long weekend for MacK. If we can come out of it with 2 points I think we have done well.

 

[OMG67]

Korbler back in the lineup tonight.

MacKenzie out. Gerrior subs in.

Dietsch out and Horner starts on defence.

 

[Vector Calculus]

Korbler back in the lineup tonight.

MacKenzie out. Gerrior subs in.

Dietsch out and Horner starts on defence.

No Houben. He has been playing pretty well this year.

 

[Vector Calculus]

3-0 Sarnia less than halfway through the first.