Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)

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I was just told by a very reliable source that Boyd has told the players & staff there will be no trades. The room is the room get comfortable.
The more I think about this the more it makes little sense. As a few have alluded to whatever Boyd said if he did it likely was to reassure that nobody is getting moved out. There might be trades but using picks only. So if this is what he meant it means he sees Barlas/Ewles, Dever, Quick etc , the assets some of us saw as expendable, as part of the future. It also tells me he's confident Beck/Smyth/Dever are expected back ready to go. As of now if no one is traded our roster next year looks like this
Gardiner/Foster/Gerrior
Rohrer/Pinelli/Stonehouse
Barlas/Quick/Dever
Kelly

Mayich/Mews
Smyth/Ewles
Marelli/Sirman

Donoso(OA)
Mckenzie

I assumed Beck is not back as an OA. So this leaves us with an import slot, two OA slots. Add in our first rounder and a second rounder and we have a decent lineup. Likely a bit of regression from this year but solid
Lastly last thing about this rumour. Boyd in an interview about 1 month ago was quite clear he was willing to add as the team was 1 year ahead of schedule. So I don't see why he would change his mind! Maybe no players are going out but I see some coming in. I agree with OMG an OA but probably another body imo.
 
No Boucher or Matier and a different backup goalie Nolan Chartrand Dec 09, 22 Kitchener Rangers ? Ottawa 67s


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The teams should be able to buy out of goalie suspensions for the silly stuff like goalie fights. Just get them to pay a fine. Rotating other teams goalies into the lineup as a BUG doesn’t make a lot of sense.
 
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The more I think about this the more it makes little sense. As a few have alluded to whatever Boyd said if he did it likely was to reassure that nobody is getting moved out. There might be trades but using picks only. So if this is what he meant it means he sees Barlas/Ewles, Dever, Quick etc , the assets some of us saw as expendable, as part of the future. It also tells me he's confident Beck/Smyth/Dever are expected back ready to go. As of now if no one is traded our roster next year looks like this
Gardiner/Foster/Gerrior
Rohrer/Pinelli/Stonehouse
Barlas/Quick/Dever
Kelly

Mayich/Mews
Smyth/Ewles
Marelli/Sirman

Donoso(OA)
Mckenzie

I assumed Beck is not back as an OA. So this leaves us with an import slot, two OA slots. Add in our first rounder and a second rounder and we have a decent lineup. Likely a bit of regression from this year but solid
Lastly last thing about this rumour. Boyd in an interview about 1 month ago was quite clear he was willing to add as the team was 1 year ahead of schedule. So I don't see why he would change his mind! Maybe no players are going out but I see some coming in. I agree with OMG an OA but probably another body imo.

And that is sort of my issue with Boyd being steadfast about not trading any bodies. There are two spots open with 6 players likely coming in. Two OA, one Import, and three draft picks. That doesn’t include any potential surprise signings or trade opportunities in the offseason.

In the 2023 draft, they have two 2nds, two 3rds, three 4ths and a 5th. Arguably, they trade one of the 2nds, 3rds and 4ths. They would likley trade from their 2025 and 2026 picks and their 2024 3rd Rounders. But, regardless, they would still have loads of picks including one really early 2nd next season. I cannot see them not having at least three underage RW ont heir roster next season.

I think they can trade two bodies from the forward lines provided they were committed to adding an OA forward in the offseason to enter next season. It would not affect next years team much. Dever has been solid but what is his true ceiling? Is this a guy you are trying to protect for your future? Same with Quick. There will likely be little room for either of them to get serious ice time next season. From a strategic perspective, if the difference between making a deal and not making a deal is one of those two players, I question the reasoning.
 
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On the OHL website it says 5-0 Home Forfeit. Did something crazy happen?
Strange, didn't see anything unusual on the ice. Only thing i can think of is Guelph played an ineligible player and got disqualified after the game as the score was 5-3.?????
 
Strange, didn't see anything unusual on the ice. Only thing i can think of is Guelph played an ineligible player and got disqualified after the game as the score was 5-3.?????
IT SAYS ON THE OHL WEBSITE 5-3

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22151/920
GUE
10232/729
OTT:
V. Rohrer (04:00 1st)
, B. Gardiner (19:41 1st)
, B. Stonehouse (15:27 2nd)
, C. Foster (18:18 2nd)
, B. Stonehouse (19:07 3rd)
GUE:
J. Karabela (14:20 1st)
, C. Okitundu (08:57 3rd)
, B. Bowman (11:46 3rd)
PLAY BY PLAYGAME SUMMARY
 
IT SAYS ON THE OHL WEBSITE 5-3

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OTT:
V. Rohrer (04:00 1st)
, B. Gardiner (19:41 1st)
, B. Stonehouse (15:27 2nd)
, C. Foster (18:18 2nd)
, B. Stonehouse (19:07 3rd)
GUE:
J. Karabela (14:20 1st)
, C. Okitundu (08:57 3rd)
, B. Bowman (11:46 3rd)
PLAY BY PLAYGAME SUMMARY
Yes it's since been updated. Strange.
 
It feels strange saying solid weekend” with only 3 points but considering the shortages on the roster right now, it feels like a solid weekend.

The 17 year olds seem to do well against the weaker competition. A solid game today for Gardiner and Foster. They still struggle a bit against the stiffer and more experienced competition. That was evident agaisnt Windsor and London. HOWEVER, we usually see a bit or improvement in the 2nd half for the younger guys. Hopefully they will be able to fight through it more. I like Foster as a complimentary player on the wing of a Veteran centre. I think he has more confidence and can be more explosive. If we do acquire a stud centre like Morrison, I’d like to see him play on that line. With a bit more time and space withthe opposition glued to the vet Centre, he may be able to exploit as well as a veteran winger.

It’s gonna be a really tough weekend coming up. 3 in 3 (OSH and HAM at home and KGN on the road). We will most likely be short bodies again. Rohrer will be gone. If no one comes back next weekend, we will have only 16 skaters.
 
It feels strange saying solid weekend” with only 3 points but considering the shortages on the roster right now, it feels like a solid weekend.

The 17 year olds seem to do well against the weaker competition. A solid game today for Gardiner and Foster. They still struggle a bit against the stiffer and more experienced competition. That was evident agaisnt Windsor and London. HOWEVER, we usually see a bit or improvement in the 2nd half for the younger guys. Hopefully they will be able to fight through it more. I like Foster as a complimentary player on the wing of a Veteran centre. I think he has more confidence and can be more explosive. If we do acquire a stud centre like Morrison, I’d like to see him play on that line. With a bit more time and space withthe opposition glued to the vet Centre, he may be able to exploit as well as a veteran winger.

It’s gonna be a really tough weekend coming up. 3 in 3 (OSH and HAM at home and KGN on the road). We will most likely be short bodies again. Rohrer will be gone. If no one comes back next weekend, we will have only 16 skaters.

I have no read on the U.S. team’s selection camp, but I think that Matier has a really good shot at making Team Canada. Canada always takes guys like him that have the versatility to play in all situations and can effectively pair with and complement any other defenseman on the team. Matier would be a really good #3 -#6 defenseman on this version of Team Canada I think, and being a 19-year old AND a RHS (and if things go well for him at camp) may find himself in the top-4 paired with Zellwegger. I have a hard time believing the coaching staff this tournament go with an all-LHS defense corps like they did last Christmas (in the summer tournament they had one RHS - Thompson from Sudbury), which I think only improves Matier’s chances of making this team. I thought the LHSs on last years teams struggled with the switch to their off-side at times. Probably a lesson learned for the coaching staff.

It would suck for the 67s to lose Matier for a few weeks, but I’d be thrilled for him and most times the players come back to their club teams as better and more battle-tested players.

As far as I understand it Rohrer has already made the Austrian team, I don’t believe they have a selection camp per se. That’s why he’s heading out to the east coast later than the others.
 
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I was just told by a very reliable source that Boyd has told the players & staff there will be no trades. The room is the room get comfortable.
The thought pattern is that Granderson either knows a player or billets.

That being said I still think that we will see Pinellia and Morrison in barber poles in the new year.

As OMG said we have a lot of draft picks to trade. I can also see someone like laforme traded because if they do get either of my choices, he is going to be the odd man out.

This team was never going to make wholesale changes
 
The thought pattern is that Granderson either knows a player or billets.

That being said I still think that we will see Pinellia and Morrison in barber poles in the new year.

As OMG said we have a lot of draft picks to trade. I can also see someone like laforme traded because if they do get either of my choices, he is going to be the odd man out.

This team was never going to make wholesale changes
This sounds eerily like the 2018/19 team where Boyd and Tourigny fell in love with the room they had, while the others juggled and moved pieces around. Not the direction I would go, but as the GM Boyd gets paid to make these decisions. Wholesale changes were and are not necessary but if people are foolish enough to believe they can not make this team better with size and experience, I will respectfully disagree.

At a high level there must be some knowledge of who is returning to the league to make a statement like this, IF it was made. Lots of speculation circulating but unlike last year non of the players were returned to junior prior to WJC camps which may be an indication that the players are being sent to get their last taste of junior hockey, and then will be returning to pro. This would leave a number of teams holding assets which Ottawa simply views as not significant enough to move the bar, and may truly believe that when all the pieces return they are good enough.
 
This sounds eerily like the 2018/19 team where Boyd and Tourigny fell in love with the room they had, while the others juggled and moved pieces around. Not the direction I would go, but as the GM Boyd gets paid to make these decisions. Wholesale changes were and are not necessary but if people are foolish enough to believe they can not make this team better with size and experience, I will respectfully disagree.

At a high level there must be some knowledge of who is returning to the league to make a statement like this, IF it was made. Lots of speculation circulating but unlike last year non of the players were returned to junior prior to WJC camps which may be an indication that the players are being sent to get their last taste of junior hockey, and then will be returning to pro. This would leave a number of teams holding assets which Ottawa simply views as not significant enough to move the bar, and may truly believe that when all the pieces return they are good enough.
To me, the wildcard in all of this is Gardiner. It really comes down to what they think about his ability to maintain his current status as the 3rd line centre. If, in their opinion, Gardiner is just fine where he is, then I can see why they would feel they are ok where they are. They still would lack depth down the middle which is why in my opinion, regardless of what they think about Gardiner, they need to acquire a centre. You can’t go into the 2nd half and the playoffs with three OHL Centres and a few other guys that used to play centre but struggle playing the position at this level.

We have the OA spot open and I think we all agree they will acquire a centre. Morrison makes the most sense.

Foster - Morrison - Stonehouse
Pinelli - Rohrer - Boucher
Beck - Tolnai - Gerrior
Barlas - Gardiner - Kelly/Dever

In that scenario, Gardiner can drill up the lineup if a Centre goes down. He can also shift to wing in the top 9 if a winger goes down. I’d like to see them add one more player on the wing to guard against injury and stretch the lineup a little more but if they can stay healthy, I am ok with that lineup. They only have two 17 year olds in the top 9. Both have proven capable as the complimentary piece on the wing.

I am ok with the defence provided Matier stays healthy all season. Maybe add Costantini to that mix of staying healthy as well. I think any of the other 6 could be out of th lineup and I’d be ok with the “next guy up” scenario.

Both goalies are fine.

So, as long as they add the front line OA centre and maybe add another depth forward piece, they are competitive enough. Is it good enough to go all the way? I think it is if you look at no other teams acquiring more than one additional player. It likely won’t be enough if Barrie gets Clarke back and they also add two or three additional players on top of that. That sets up a Guelph scenario from 2019.
 
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This sounds eerily like the 2018/19 team where Boyd and Tourigny fell in love with the room they had, while the others juggled and moved pieces around. Not the direction I would go, but as the GM Boyd gets paid to make these decisions. Wholesale changes were and are not necessary but if people are foolish enough to believe they can not make this team better with size and experience, I will respectfully disagree.

At a high level there must be some knowledge of who is returning to the league to make a statement like this, IF it was made. Lots of speculation circulating but unlike last year non of the players were returned to junior prior to WJC camps which may be an indication that the players are being sent to get their last taste of junior hockey, and then will be returning to pro. This would leave a number of teams holding assets which Ottawa simply views as not significant enough to move the bar, and may truly believe that when all the pieces return they are good enough.
I think that if true Boyd's comments may have been misinterpreted. He probably is just assuring the players that none on the current roster will be traded in any deals. This could mean that some will be sent down but will still belong to the team. I believe he will be using some of the assets we have to at least acquire 2 players. I definitely agree we could use some size along with experience.

I have no idea what will happen but we will require at least a couple of additions if we envision a possible championship this season. Should we decide not to add then we might as well look at shipping out Matier as he would fetch a pretty good return.
 
We need to remember as well that both of their 2nd round picks fall in line with where they picked Marrelli. I believe there is only one comp pick so the first pick of the 2nd round is 22nd. We have Niagara and Guelph. It is likely that both of those team miss the playoffs. So they’d fall in the top 25.

Those two picks would be highly valuable in two separate trades if they were to choose to go down that road. It is a definite tie breaker for trades only type deals.
 
OMG If the 67's keep everyone do they have enough space or is someone going go if they bring in 2 players.

I still think that Morrison as a center is one player and Pinelli as center/wing are possible with draft picks.
 
OMG If the 67's keep everyone do they have enough space or is someone going go if they bring in 2 players.

I still think that Morrison as a center is one player and Pinelli as center/wing are possible with draft picks.

Current depth chart:

Beck - Tolnai - Stonehouse
Pinelli - Rohrer - Boucher
Foster - Gardiner - Gerrior
Dever - Barlas - Kelly
Laforme - Quick

Mayich - Matier
Sirman - Costantini
Smyth - Mews
Marrelli - Ewles

Donoso
Mackenzie

They will keep the 8 D-Men on the roster for sure, assuming they don’t add a D-Man. Smyth wil be out for a little while so I cannot see Marrelli getting sent down to play games while remaining with Ottawa for practise. That may happen when Smyth returns though.

Laforme will likely stay in the press box as an extra body. No sense sending him anywhere and he is worth nothing in a trade. They’ve burnt a card on him so he likely isn’t going anywhere.

Then it comes down to what happens with Quick, Kelly, and Dever. I think Quick gets sent down to play Tier II regardless. He needs the ice time. Kelly should probably get sent down as well because he is 16. So, if they add one player, Laforme would likely be the 13th forward And Dever would play as the 12th forward on The 4th line. IF they add two forwards, Dever would slide into the 13th forward spot and be next guy in.

That is how I see it.

I say that but I need to mention that Kelly has a very high ceiling. You can see he has a ton of skill. They types of plays he makes when he has a little bit of space is impressive. He needs to catch up to the speed. He can only do that by playing more. I think it is important for him to get that ice somewhere. I think he could be a player like Foster as a 17 year old next year if he has a scoring touch. If not then at least a solid complimentary setup/passing type winger.
 
OMG If the 67's keep everyone do they have enough space or is someone going go if they bring in 2 players.

I still think that Morrison as a center is one player and Pinelli as center/wing are possible with draft picks.
From my understanding in OHL book each team can carry 24 body’s 22+2 Goalies
OMG If the 67's keep everyone do they have enough space or is someone going go if they bring in 2 players.

I still think that Morrison as a center is one player and Pinelli as center/wing are possible with draft picks
 
Current depth chart:

Beck - Tolnai - Stonehouse
Pinelli - Rohrer - Boucher
Foster - Gardiner - Gerrior
Dever - Barlas - Kelly
Laforme - Quick

Mayich - Matier
Sirman - Costantini
Smyth - Mews
Marrelli - Ewles

Donoso
Mackenzie

They will keep the 8 D-Men on the roster for sure, assuming they don’t add a D-Man. Smyth wil be out for a little while so I cannot see Marrelli getting sent down to play games while remaining with Ottawa for practise. That may happen when Smyth returns though.

Laforme will likely stay in the press box as an extra body. No sense sending him anywhere and he is worth nothing in a trade. They’ve burnt a card on him so he likely isn’t going anywhere.

Then it comes down to what happens with Quick, Kelly, and Dever. I think Quick gets sent down to play Tier II regardless. He needs the ice time. Kelly should probably get sent down as well because he is 16. So, if they add one player, Laforme would likely be the 13th forward And Dever would play as the 12th forward on The 4th line. IF they add two forwards, Dever would slide into the 13th forward spot and be next guy in.

That is how I see it.

I say that but I need to mention that Kelly has a very high ceiling. You can see he has a ton of skill. They types of plays he makes when he has a little bit of space is impressive. He needs to catch up to the speed. He can only do that by playing more. I think it is important for him to get that ice somewhere. I think he could be a player like Foster as a 17 year old next year if he has a scoring touch. If not then at least a solid complimentary setup/passing type winger.
Good point on Kelly! I'm seeing the flashes too. The other thing is his size. Already 190lbs so solid kid who will complement our lineup well. Not quite there yet but his speed has improved quite a bit imo since the beginning of the year. His ceiling is likely a top 6 power forward and his floor a middle six bruiser with skill. We'll see mext year.
 
Chris Barlas has really taken off lately, with 5 points and a +6 rating in his past five games, in a timeframe where the team has been average. The move to the wing has really boosted him.

On TSN1200 Kenny Walls said that his fight this weekend was the best he’s seen in the league all year. Does anybody have a link to it?
 
Chris Barlas has really taken off lately, with 5 points and a +6 rating in his past five games, in a timeframe where the team has been average. The move to the wing has really boosted him.

On TSN1200 Kenny Walls said that his fight this weekend was the best he’s seen in the league all year. Does anybody have a link to it?

I think the majority of us on here were SCREAMING for him to shift to the wing last season about mid-way through. He just doesn’t see the ice well enough as a centre. He may be a little on the shorter side but he does have some solid size for his frame.

I don’t think he will ever be a scoring power forward but I could see him round into a Gerrior type that can put up a few more points. He has better hands with the puck around the net and clearly a better shot.

He is solid defensively. He puts in good time on the PK. He’s a 3rd liner next year with a chance to be a more well rounded winger as a 19 and 20 year old.

It was a solid scrap. Saying it’s the best fight of the year when they don’t fight much is probably a bit of an overstatement though.
 
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