Ottawa 67's 2021-22 Season Thread

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Being competitive at least would be nice, losing 6 to 1 to a last place team is sure not a good sign. They could of picked up a good OA or two to help develop the kids, rather than throwing them into the fire and now they look lost. These young kids should have been brought along gradually and this would let them adjust to the faster pace.

Cranley is a rebound machine who does not cover his angles properly on many occasions. You do not have to be an NHL top prospect to be a decent OHL goaltender. If they want to go with an all kids team well then use Donoso and MacKenzie to see what they are capable of.

I don’t disagree on the Goaltending and wouldn’t be surprised if Cranley was moved. It’s a reboot year and it would be good to see the young goalies get a shot. I’m sure that Cranley would prefer playing on a veteran team and his shot of getting signed by St Louis would improve. The Goalie market hasn’t been great though, with Niagara only getting a 3rd and 8th for Tucker Tynan and with Tristan Lennox likely on the market as well.

I was clamouring for an overager addition as well but the team clearly prefers developing the young players. Prior to Beck’s injury and Robinson’s second suspension the team’s forward depth seemed good.

If they trade a few veterans, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them add a couple of OA’s from the bargain bin to make a push for the playoffs. Without Jack Beck and with the Petes’ addition of Mason McTavish (or the trade assets they get for him), the playoffs are far from a given for the 67’s right now.

The team should be among the league favourites for next year, returning their top three 19 year olds and everybody other than Varga. Sometimes you need to take a step back as a team in order to take two steps forward down the road.
 
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I don’t disagree on the Goaltending and wouldn’t be surprised if Cranley was moved. It’s a reboot year and it would be good to see the young goalies get a shot. I’m sure that Cranley would prefer playing on a veteran team and his shot of getting signed by St Louis would improve. The Goalie market hasn’t been great though, with Niagara only getting a 3rd and 8th for Tucker Tynan and with Tristan Lennox likely on the market as well.

I was clamouring for an overager addition as well but the team clearly prefers developing the young players. Prior to Beck’s injury and Robinson’s second suspension the team’s forward depth seemed good.

If they trade a few veterans, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them add a couple of OA’s from the bargain bin to make a push for the playoffs. Without Jack Beck and with the Petes’ addition of Mason McTavish (or the trade assets they get for him), the playoffs are far from a given for the 67’s right now.

The team should be among the league favourites for next year, returning their top three 19 year olds and everybody other than Varga. Sometimes you need to take a step back as a team in order to take two steps forward down the road.
I could see Kingston possibly being interested in Cranley as a backup for Merilainen as they go all in. Not sure how much they would offer though. My guess would be a 4th at most.

MacTavish likely won't play another game for the Petes so no need to worry there...though they might get some young guns in return.
 

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I don’t disagree on the Goaltending and wouldn’t be surprised if Cranley was moved. It’s a reboot year and it would be good to see the young goalies get a shot. I’m sure that Cranley would prefer playing on a veteran team and his shot of getting signed by St Louis would improve. The Goalie market hasn’t been great though, with Niagara only getting a 3rd and 8th for Tucker Tynan and with Tristan Lennox likely on the market as well.

I was clamouring for an overager addition as well but the team clearly prefers developing the young players. Prior to Beck’s injury and Robinson’s second suspension the team’s forward depth seemed good.

If they trade a few veterans, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them add a couple of OA’s from the bargain bin to make a push for the playoffs. Without Jack Beck and with the Petes’ addition of Mason McTavish (or the trade assets they get for him), the playoffs are far from a given for the 67’s right now.

The team should be among the league favourites for next year, returning their top three 19 year olds and everybody other than Varga. Sometimes you need to take a step back as a team in order to take two steps forward down the road.
I do not expect a lot for Cranley but that is okay, a Beck update would be nice and as far as Robinson goes either smarten up or move him.

Varga could also move on as everyone seems content with taking a step back so go all in without this OA. He is not contributing much offensively and is not a real physical presence. I do not think he contributes a lot to the development of the kids.
 

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You guys got Alex Johnston. Defensively responsible checking line centre, a bit of offense maybe in the 0.5 - 0.75 points per game range.
 
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You guys got Alex Johnston. Defensively responsible checking line centre, a bit of offense maybe in the 0.5 - 0.75 points per game range.

Exactly the type of player they’ll need once they sell off a couple players at the deadline and even through the Christmas break with Vinzenz Rohrer away with Team Austria.
Good local player and good cost too :)
 

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I do not expect a lot for Cranley but that is okay, a Beck update would be nice and as far as Robinson goes either smarten up or move him.

Varga could also move on as everyone seems content with taking a step back so go all in without this OA. He is not contributing much offensively and is not a real physical presence. I do not think he contributes a lot to the development of the kids.
Any one else you want to throw under the bus? the team has 5 key players out not including Belanger who just returned from a long layoff. They are playing four 16 year olds and another 7 rookies some nights, and have players playing out of position. I question the coaching of these players on certain occasions but there has been no shortage of effort from the players. Since these key players went out they have struggled (2-7-1) prior to that they were first in the conference having beat the top teams, and were listed in the top 10 in the CHL rankings. No one expected them to maintain that pace but most acknowledged that if they had gotten a couple of OA's they would continue to be very competitive, that didn't happen and adversity hit.
People on here bashing Matier, Cranley and Vargas know very little about what goes on with a hockey team, they are part of what is left of a very small leadership group and are the only reason they are still in some of these hockey games come the 3rd period. Vargas skates well and provides energy on the forecheck, the team needs that. You don't like Cranley, we all get that also, you weren't bitching when he shut out Barrie, or was in the net for wins against Kingston and Hamilton when there was a fully compliment of players and they were on a more level playing field. Matier has done nothing but put his blood and sweat on the line for this team, often paired with an inexperienced partner leaving him exposed and often trying to guide them in addition to being focused to his own task. Robinson is asked to play on the edge, that is going to result in plays that cross the line and he will pay the penalty when he does. No idea what your agenda is but it got old a long time ago.
 

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Any one else you want to throw under the bus? the team has 5 key players out not including Belanger who just returned from a long layoff. They are playing four 16 year olds and another 7 rookies some nights, and have players playing out of position. I question the coaching of these players on certain occasions but there has been no shortage of effort from the players. Since these key players went out they have struggled (2-7-1) prior to that they were first in the conference having beat the top teams, and were listed in the top 10 in the CHL rankings. No one expected them to maintain that pace but most acknowledged that if they had gotten a couple of OA's they would continue to be very competitive, that didn't happen and adversity hit.
People on here bashing Matier, Cranley and Vargas know very little about what goes on with a hockey team, they are part of what is left of a very small leadership group and are the only reason they are still in some of these hockey games come the 3rd period. Vargas skates well and provides energy on the forecheck, the team needs that. You don't like Cranley, we all get that also, you weren't bitching when he shut out Barrie, or was in the net for wins against Kingston and Hamilton when there was a fully compliment of players and they were on a more level playing field. Matier has done nothing but put his blood and sweat on the line for this team, often paired with an inexperienced partner leaving him exposed and often trying to guide them in addition to being focused to his own task. Robinson is asked to play on the edge, that is going to result in plays that cross the line and he will pay the penalty when he does. No idea what your agenda is but it got old a long time ago.
This is your opinion to which you are entitled, but quit trying to make excuses for all the flaws on this team. I have never said that I am a fan of Cranley, Varga or Robinson so I am not changing my mind now that things are not so good. You may think you have all the answers but they leave a lot to be desired.
 

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They are playing four 16 year olds and another 7 rookies some nights
Is that all?

Mignosa '05
Cloutier '05
Montroy '05
Allard '04
Hookey '04
McConnell-Barker '04
Carlisle '04
Toms '04
Kudryavtsev '04
Schenkel '04
Savard '03
D'Intino '03
Brzustowski '03
Ivanov '03

I agree with most of the rest of your post, but everybody is playing with half a team without any OHL experience. I don't think that's a valid excuse.
 

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Is that all?

Mignosa '05
Cloutier '05
Montroy '05
Allard '04
Hookey '04
McConnell-Barker '04
Carlisle '04
Toms '04
Kudryavtsev '04
Schenkel '04
Savard '03
D'Intino '03
Brzustowski '03
Ivanov '03

I agree with most of the rest of your post, but everybody is playing with half a team without any OHL experience. I don't think that's a valid excuse.

I mean, lets keep it going...

Barlow (05)
Bonaiuto (04)
Bryant (04)
Chafe (05)
Fantino (04)
Guindon (04)
Jordan (04)
Okitundu (04)
Petrovsky (04)
Steen (04)
Uens (05)
Votary (04)

12 rookies over here, all 16 or 17 :)
 

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Is that all?

Mignosa '05
Cloutier '05
Montroy '05
Allard '04
Hookey '04
McConnell-Barker '04
Carlisle '04
Toms '04
Kudryavtsev '04
Schenkel '04
Savard '03
D'Intino '03
Brzustowski '03
Ivanov '03

I agree with most of the rest of your post, but everybody is playing with half a team without any OHL experience. I don't think that's a valid excuse.
That number didn’t include the 03 rookies, you’d have to add another 6 guys. And with exception of one of them and the back-up goalie they were all in the same lineup. I get where you’re coming from, doesn’t help that among the injured is the teams top goal scorer.
 

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I mean, lets keep it going...

Barlow (05)
Bonaiuto (04)
Bryant (04)
Chafe (05)
Fantino (04)
Guindon (04)
Jordan (04)
Okitundu (04)
Petrovsky (04)
Steen (04)
Uens (05)
Votary (04)

12 rookies over here, all 16 or 17 :)
So comparable, not many nights they are all in the lineup, and until a couple weeks ago you guys were carrying 4 OA’s. Best of luck this season!
 

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I mean, lets keep it going...

Barlow (05)
Bonaiuto (04)
Bryant (04)
Chafe (05)
Fantino (04)
Guindon (04)
Jordan (04)
Okitundu (04)
Petrovsky (04)
Steen (04)
Uens (05)
Votary (04)

12 rookies over here, all 16 or 17 :)
10 for the Knights
 

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So comparable, not many nights they are all in the lineup, and until a couple weeks ago you guys were carrying 4 OA’s. Best of luck this season!

They are all in the lineup for the most part. Even when we had 4 OAs, only 3 could play. Jordan is the only one that sits from time to time, havent been healthy enough to have healthy scratches.
 

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10 for the Knights
7 per game including your back-up who only gets time when it’s a blowout. I respect London development model, they do a great job of insulating and support their young players.
 

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That number didn’t include the 03 rookies, you’d have to add another 6 guys.
Maybe I am struggling with math, but I only see 13 on your roster without OHL experience?

Laforme '03
Gaidamak '03
Donoso '03
Gerrior '04
Sirman '04
Smyth '04
Stonehouse '04
Rohrer '04
MacKenzie '04
Mayich '04
Barlas '05
Gardiner '05
Pinelli '05
 

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Foster(05) & Dever(05) just got sent down and removed. Sirizzoti only played a few games
 

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Any one else you want to throw under the bus? the team has 5 key players out not including Belanger who just returned from a long layoff. They are playing four 16 year olds and another 7 rookies some nights, and have players playing out of position. I question the coaching of these players on certain occasions but there has been no shortage of effort from the players. Since these key players went out they have struggled (2-7-1) prior to that they were first in the conference having beat the top teams, and were listed in the top 10 in the CHL rankings. No one expected them to maintain that pace but most acknowledged that if they had gotten a couple of OA's they would continue to be very competitive, that didn't happen and adversity hit.
People on here bashing Matier, Cranley and Vargas know very little about what goes on with a hockey team, they are part of what is left of a very small leadership group and are the only reason they are still in some of these hockey games come the 3rd period. Vargas skates well and provides energy on the forecheck, the team needs that. You don't like Cranley, we all get that also, you weren't bitching when he shut out Barrie, or was in the net for wins against Kingston and Hamilton when there was a fully compliment of players and they were on a more level playing field. Matier has done nothing but put his blood and sweat on the line for this team, often paired with an inexperienced partner leaving him exposed and often trying to guide them in addition to being focused to his own task. Robinson is asked to play on the edge, that is going to result in plays that cross the line and he will pay the penalty when he does. No idea what your agenda is but it got old a long time ago.

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Please enlighten me as to the 5 key players

Robinson has hardly seen any ice time in the past 3 years so he is definitely not what I would call a key player
Johnston is a second-year player that so far this season has not had an outstanding year.

I will give you Beck his injury is a definite issue

This team was never a top team. Yes, we won some games.

The issue is that players on this team are going to need development time and a coach that knows what he is doing.

Cranley is a rebounding machine and until he solves that issue he will not be a go-to goalie as a matter of fact he could become a liability.

Donoso looked good in the couple of games he played so it may be that Cranley is trade bait only time will tell.

As has been said by many this is a year that a lot of teams have a lot of first year players.

That is why teams like Kingston and London are going to do so well this year.

This is a team that I have said will stink out the first part of the year and would be a pain in the ass in the second half of the season.
 

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Vargas, Johnston, Robinson, Beck & Gill-Shane are all guys this team is dependant on to fill roster spots.
I’m not suggesting this team is without defect. They are absent of true elite talent which is what makes each of these loses most difficult.
I have a different opinion on Cranley, let’s move on from that. And I agree with you, when the players return they will be difficult to play against later in the season.
 
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On another note just watching the game on Rogers. I know it's not pros manning the cameras but I think they are filming it from the moon! Can't tell which player is which, use that zoom people! Not typical though the broadcasts are usually of good quality...oh well. Btw 1-0 poles after one.
 

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This is your opinion to which you are entitled, but quit trying to make excuses for all the flaws on this team. I have never said that I am a fan of Cranley, Varga or Robinson so I am not changing my mind now that things are not so good. You may think you have all the answers but they leave a lot to be desired.

Let me know if you don’t want Matier. My team will take him and give you whatever you want in return.
 

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Good effort tonight and it really helped to have a few players back, johnston ×2 and Gill-Shane. On the other hand Gaidamack was out with Lbi. Hopefully he's back soon. Robinson is back next game and aside from the stupid suspensions he's been good out there. When Gaidamack, Beck are back with Johnson which I think is an upgrade over Varga,we'll be ok. At full strenght
Johnston-Tolnai-Sirizzotti
Beck-Gaidamack-Rohrer
Robinson-Johnston-Stonehouse
Gerrior-Barlas-Pinelli
Laforme/Gardiner

Not a high end talent roster but a deep roster!
 
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Good effort tonight and it really helped to have a few players back, johnston ×2 and Gill-Shane. On the other hand Gaidamack was out with Lbi. Hopefully he's back soon. Robinson is back next game and aside from the stupid suspensions he's been good out there. When Gaidamack, Beck are back with Johnson which I think is an upgrade over Varga,we'll be ok. At full strenght
Johnston-Tolnai-Sirizzotti
Beck-Gaidamack-Rohrer
Robinson-Johnston-Stonehouse
Gerrior-Barlas-Pinelli
Laforme/Gardiner

Not a high end talent roster but a deep roster!

Yes good effort tonight. Thomas Johnson added some punch, Cranley had a nice game.
...And yes, we will probably have seen the last of McTavish for a while, because he should be getting a big suspension for his hit on Johnston at the end of the game
 

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Yes good effort tonight. Thomas Johnson added some punch, Cranley had a nice game.
...And yes, we will probably have seen the last of McTavish for a while, because he should be getting a big suspension for his hit on Johnston at the end of the game
I'm surprised he played tonight. Don't tryouts start in the morning in Alberta? Why risk it if he is on the trade block? Weird. I'm assuming any suspension is meaningless since he won't be there to serve it anyways, correct?
 

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Dagenais prend du galon avec le départ de Cameron

The Coaches are openly taking about the rebuild in this article. The goal is to get to the playoffs and build some confidence going into next year. I am fine with this.

With the key injuries and suspensions to the small number of core veterans, to be 12-12-2 is outstanding.

Hockey Canada doesn’t pick bad junior coaches to lead the World Junior team. Dave Cameron has been great so far IMO. I like the development we are seeing.
 
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