Proposal: OTT sends Brady Tkachuk, Shane Pinto to NYI for Matthew Barzal, Noah Dobson

[TheGreenTBer]

America is an absolute trash country, too, though, so no loss on that front. Unless you just mean the low taxes and skyhigh income inequality?

Low taxes in NY? Never.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Until they realize they get stuck in Canada.

Sure buddy if you keep telling yourself that, one day you might just believe it.

 

[Kegs]

2. Not counting the pandemic years, basically. He played 68 and 55 games during the pandemic which seems in line since Tkachuk played 71 and 56 in those same seasons.

Fair enough. Injuries happen. I don’t see Ottawa moving Brady though. He is such a stud. I like barzal but brady is one of my favourite players. Maybe im bias. The way islander fans talk about Dobson though…. Maybe Dobson is the real key piece in this trade proposal

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I think this is bad for Ottawa they can get better offers lots of GMs would drool over the chance to get a player like Brady hes made for playoffs hockey

 

[EveryDay]

Value:

Brady

Dobson
Barzal



Pinto

It's pretty close on term of value.

 

[Golden_Jet]

2. Not counting the pandemic years, basically. He played 68 and 55 games during the pandemic which seems in line since Tkachuk played 71 and 56 in those same seasons.

He’s missed just about 65 games in his career, that’s not counting shortened seasons for pandemic.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Interesting. I didn’t realize Dobson was top ten D. Didn’t have him in my top 10. But it’s hard to gauge. I only see a few nyi games a year and I never thought about him much until now.

he’s not, but he’s probably top 25 and is right handed and under team control. Hes got at least as much trade value as Brady and if they were traded for each other straight up no one would blink an eye.

Barzal is injury prone. 8 nhl seasons. 4 he missed significant time with injuries no?

No. This narrative has been created by people who are looking at games played and forgetting the shortened seasons.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Fair enough. Injuries happen. I don’t see Ottawa moving Brady though. He is such a stud. I like barzal but brady is one of my favourite players. Maybe im bias. The way islander fans talk about Dobson though…. Maybe Dobson is the real key piece in this trade proposal

Which would be odd given they have Sanderson and Chabot. I don't think many teams in the NHL have or want three players making over 8 a season on D (though that could conceivably be the norm with the cap rising).

I don't see why they would trade him either, tbh. I'd rather have him for two-three more seasons and lose him for the typical trade deadline return.

He’s missed just about 65 games in his career, that’s not counting shortened seasons for pandemic.

Ok?

 

[impaaaaaact]

He’s missed just about 65 games in his career, that’s not counting shortened seasons for pandemic.

And again, about half of those will be from blocking a shot trying to preserve a late game lead playing 6 on 5. Hard nosed playoff hockey type stuff.

Speaking of the playoffs, he averages the same amount of PPG in the post season as Brady has over his career. So while it makes sense to project Brady as a probably potentially solid post season performer based on his play style and tournament performances, Barzal actually has a track record of contributing to his team in the NHL playoffs over a number of seasons.

So yeah, let's just do away with all of this "they're soft/ they're injury prone" stuff. Just made up junk from people who don't watch the players and can't even maintain objectivity when looking at stat sheets.

 

[Sparksrus3]

This is the kind of thread that we will up in a few years and laugh about it, after Brady's hype settles down... No way in hell I'm giving a young #1D and a #1C for Pinto and Brady.

Isles fan here .. if Barzal was a true #1 center and not just our first line center and Dobson was a true #1 Dman and not just someone that plays on our top pair the NYI would be a much better team