It's an easy contract to get rid of in trades to match salary.
8 million is nothing in the NBA world, assuming Nuggets are using his salary to get a good player, it means they’re trading with a rebuilding team and they’ll care more about picks than acquiring him.
Rebuilding teams would take his 23~27 years and if he sucks even more, they have him help the tank. If he's good, he's a stretch 4 that defends all 5 positions on a relatively cheap contract. Teams taking him isn't taking him to be the main player in the deal anyways, it'll be for other younger guys with higher potential + picks.
Once again, he's not on a cheap contract. He's a non-rotation player that is severely overpaid and locked up for 4 years beyond this one. He's an albatross for any team looking to get better. Rebuilding teams take guys with potential and they take overpaid guys on short term deals. We're going to have to give up capital to get anyone to take him. We couldn't trade just Zeke for a small popcorn.
With the cap constantly rising, 8M is nothing. You need these kind of contracts to match salary in a trade, you're not getting an upgrade via a trade only using Strawther, Cancar, Pickett's, etc. contracts.
8M is not nothing for a 13th man on a 4 year deal in the era of the 2nd apron. It is, for all intents and purposes, a hard cap, and teams already know we have to get out of this contract just to scrape under that mark. People thinking we are going to get a real upgrade in a trade are delusional. We'll be extremely lucky just to keep our starting 5 intact after next year, and that's if KCP even chooses to opt in.
The sky is falling only because you say so. As you say he is the 13th player and they have no requirement to get rid of him. The rookies they got this year could pass him on the totem pole next year, so be it. Why do you get so upset about his contract?
Have you not been paying attention to me constantly mentioning the 2nd apron? With Zeke's contract on the books we're already over the 2nd apron going into next season. And we still have a massive Jamal Murray extension to contend with after that.
I’m still annoyed it was on TSN instead of SN and I didn’t get to see it. Not having all the Nuggets games available on one service is a real piss off
You don't think the Nuggets knew this when they signed him to the extension? You are no super genius that has some cap secret figured out. You follow them closely and that's good but I would trust the Nuggets to know what they are doing in this case. They pretty clearly stated over the next 5 years the roster would be the guys they had and the guys they drafted/developed, less the veterans they can't sign like Bruce and probably KCP, then AG and some old guys after it.
I guess the million dollar question is would either Allen or Jackson still develop into great players with Denver. I'm positive Jackson would, but can't say the same for Allen if he had Bill Musgrave as his OC.
Maybe but I'm still not sold on his value when you pay him top dollar. A good QB, one you can win with for sure, but this Ravens team is about the depth of the lineup just like the Niners with Purdy. Lamar is not a guy you want to pull a rabbit out of the hat for you late in the game nor is he a guy that can carry a team on his back for extended stretches. He's only as good as the guys he has around him and paying a top QB contract for him makes it harder to get and keep those guys around.
