OT: Other Sports aka 2 weeks until NFL Draft thread XXVI

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Haven't missed a Mammoth game in years.

Adam Jones is playing on a different level. Back to back sock tricks (6+ goals) is unreal.

I didn't know what sock trip was until last night. :laugh:

Commander, quick question: do they count all shots towards the net, or we're those 100+ shots all on goal?
 

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Peyton will retire tomorrow. Wonder if he really knows he's done or if he sent out feelers to gauge interest and came back empty handed. Either way, end of an era in the NFL.
 

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Peyton will retire tomorrow. Wonder if he really knows he's done or if he sent out feelers to gauge interest and came back empty handed. Either way, end of an era in the NFL.

Or a bit of both.

I would wager that you've got a pretty accurate view, Hasbro.

I'm sure there was "some" level of interest, but probably from teams like the Rams, Browns, etc. Teams that have a high likelihood of not even playoff contending next year (the Rams could...but I'm skeptical).

So, the best bet was for him to retire as a Champion, rather than with one of those teams.
 

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I didn't know what sock trip was until last night. :laugh:

Commander, quick question: do they count all shots towards the net, or we're those 100+ shots all on goal?

They keep both stats: shots taken and shots on goal. The Mammoth had 56 on goal, 17 off. New England had 53 on goal, 22 off.

And the sock trick is actually a tradition started by Avs fans. The first Mammoth game ever was right after an Avalanche game, and they let all the Avs fans stay to watch the Mammoth.

A Mammoth player scored three goals, and not knowing how common hat tricks were in lacrosse all the Avalanche fans threw their hats on the field. Then he scored another three, and the fans were so excited they started throwing socks. It's been a tradition ever since and has even taken hold league wide.

Those first ~5 years when the team was actually competitive were nuts. The Mammoth used to regularly be the #1 team at Pepsi Center (beating the Avs, Nuggets, and Crush) in per game attendance.
 

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The other hold up on renogotiations might be if they are still making a serious run at Malik. He'll take up space if he were to stay, which might even eliminate the room for renegotiation.
 

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I think this guy doesn't give Manning the respect that he deserves.

Definitely a hack job by an unknown writer. How ESPN puts this as their lead article is beyond comprehension. Classic example of why ESPN is hurting so badly right now in profits. I read their headlines but I don't think I've actually read a whole article from them in years.
 

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Definitely a hack job by an unknown writer. How ESPN puts this as their lead article is beyond comprehension. Classic example of why ESPN is hurting so badly right now in profits. I read their headlines but I don't think I've actually read a whole article from them in years.

He's actually quite well known in the NYC area. Has been writing for the sports sections of several NJ/NY newspapers for many years, mostly covering the Yankees, Mets, etc. I suppose he does stuff for espn now also.

Once Manning makes this official, wonder if we'll hear something from Osweiler?
 

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Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo 43m43 minutes ago
Redskins have indeed cut Jason Hatcher, source says.


could be another option on dline.

edit.

The MMQB ‏@theMMQB 43m43 minutes ago
Brady on Manning to @SI_PeterKing: "Every game he has played, I have watched. I have file folders of his plays." http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/06/peyton-manning-retirement-tom-brady-nfl


Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 2h2 hours ago
#Giants have informed WR Victor Cruz they will release him unless he agrees to pay cut. Negotiations under way, per source
 

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He's actually quite well known in the NYC area. Has been writing for the sports sections of several NJ/NY newspapers for many years, mostly covering the Yankees, Mets, etc. I suppose he does stuff for espn now also.

Once Manning makes this official, wonder if we'll hear something from Osweiler?

Doubt it. At this point, Brock seems pretty dead set that he is going to test the UFA market. And I really can't blame him. The Broncos made him a very generous offer, but at the same time it was a reasonable offer for us as a team.

Some other team like the Texans or Browns etc. could go off the deep end and offer him ridiculous money. If we are offer 13M per over 3 years with 25M guaranteed and the Texans offer 17M per over 5 years with 35M guaranteed, there is no reason for Brock to settle on us.

I thought weeks ago that Brock was going to price himself out of our comfort zone and it looks like he is going to do just that. As it's being reported that the Texans are already in line to talk with him now that UFA tampering period has begun. And I'm sure a few others will also join in.

I just don't see the hype behind Brock. The guy has 7 career starts. Was pretty average and was bailed out by an all world defense. His career numbers are on a level with Matt Flynn, not someone you want to be on a level with. It's like people forget he lost to the Raiders at home, and had to get benched against the 3rd worst team in the league, the Chargers, because his play was so poor.

I was willing to pay the guy reasonably and give him a shot to prove he could take it to the next level, but I'm not willing to pay him first tier starter money without anything to warrant that.
 

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I think this guy doesn't give Manning the respect that he deserves.

I think it's just another guy who bought in, wholly, to what Shaun King wrote. Now, I'm not saying what King wrote is 100% "wrong", but it is only one side of the story--the accuser's side.
 

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I think it's just another guy who bought in, wholly, to what Shaun King wrote. Now, I'm not saying what King wrote is 100% "wrong", but it is only one side of the story--the accuser's side.

It just seems to be a disturbing trend in journalism to treat allegations as a fact before they are proven. Also, I can't think Peyton weighed his options and placed any amount of importance on the fact that he didn't want to face a a bad PR storm in his last season, as the writer was trying to imply.
 

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It just seems to be a disturbing trend in journalism to treat allegations as a fact before they are proven. Also, I can't think Peyton weighed his options and placed any amount of importance on the fact that he didn't want to face a a bad PR storm in his last season, as the writer was trying to imply.

Yeah...not a great article, then again, it looks like TJ Quinn doesn't write very good articles anyway.

Another thing on King, there's apparently some who believe that his "source" for all of his stuff in his original article was none other than Naughright herself.
 

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Yeah...not a great article, then again, it looks like TJ Quinn doesn't write very good articles anyway.

Another thing on King, there's apparently some who believe that his "source" for all of his stuff in his original article was none other than Naughright herself.

Here's the article speculating that.

If that is the case and provable Manning could sue. Bob Kravitz said Peyton is one of the more vindictive people has been around and keep in mind he covered Mike Shannahan!

Regardless this was just a weapon of opportunity for those with an axe to grind with Peyton.
 

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Yeah...not a great article, then again, it looks like TJ Quinn doesn't write very good articles anyway.

Another thing on King, there's apparently some who believe that his "source" for all of his stuff in his original article was none other than Naughright herself.

Shaun King is a joke. He is a self proclaimed civil rights activist, and is also a Black Lives Matter activist.

I hate to bring race into anything as I'm not racist, but this guy hates white people and there is no real getting around that.

Don't you all find it somewhat ironic that Manning goes out and wins the Super Bowl against probably the biggest name black QB in the business. And this activist goes out and digs up a story that is over 20 years old, and changes it to be something different than what it was 20 years ago because he has "sources" that claim what was true 20 years ago wasn't actually the case. And he still won't give up who his "sources" were.

This was a pretty clear attempt at a smear job, to make one of the greatest white QBs look like a horrible person.
 

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Don't you all find it somewhat ironic that Manning goes out and wins the Super Bowl against probably the biggest name black QB in the business. And this activist goes out and digs up a story that is over 20 years old, and changes it to be something different than what it was 20 years ago because he has "sources" that claim what was true 20 years ago wasn't actually the case. And he still won't give up who his "sources" were.

This was a pretty clear attempt at a smear job, to make one of the greatest white QBs look like a horrible person.

king admitted the genesis of this was that he was upset at Cam Newton's treatment for leaving the press conference and someone gave him a facebook comment about the incident, which he googled two articles from USA Today during the second suit. Then the tipster sent him the trainer's statement. Not exactly, Pulitzer worthy.

I'd also never think I'd be outraged on behalf of Jason Whitlock, but King calling him a "coon for cash" was way out of line.
 

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Yeah...not a great article, then again, it looks like TJ Quinn doesn't write very good articles anyway.

Another thing on King, there's apparently some who believe that his "source" for all of his stuff in his original article was none other than Naughright herself.

I just don't get why it is on the front page of ESPN.com. It's like an op-ed on the first page.

Here's something to back up your second point.....

http://www.milehighreport.com/2016/3/3/11149496/peyton-manning-sexual-assault-vindication-jamie-naughright
 

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I, myself, am perfectly fine with the BLM movement as a means for progress in race relations and racial equality (but that's another topic for a whole other thread).

However, King is no longer affiliated with BLM due to his own dubiousness.

King wrote an article about Peyton Manning, it had Peyton coming off INCREDIBLY bad/horrendous/whatever else you want to label it. If it had been a researched article, it would be pretty damning to Peyton's career legacy (and unfortunately, will be that way anyway for those who hate him--much like those who hate Tom Brady will always bring up Deflategate even when, like this Peyton situation, there's no hard/concrete evidence of anything happening--just some really hard-to-explain circumstantial stuff...but again, that's a different story, one I don't really want to rehash). However, that's not what the article was, and Shaun King did something that all journalists should know better than to do--he allowed the story to become about him ("King just wants to take down Peyton because of how the media treated Newton after the SB...") instead of the content. Of course, it doesn't help that the content was incredibly one-sided (only the accuser's) and he didn't lift a finger, journalistically, to even make the passing appearance of being balanced.

I don't think we'll ever know what really happened in Tennessee. Too many question marks to be fair. One thing that I have found strange is that Naughright apparently added the stuff about his...area physically touching her head/face during the 2002 suit claiming he (Manning) broke the NDA from the original settlement. Of course, I think Manning's got some questions to answer to as well--particularly the letter from the other student-athlete in the room.
 

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king admitted the genesis of this was that he was upset at Cam Newton's treatment for leaving the press conference and someone gave him a facebook comment about the incident, which he googled two articles from USA Today during the second suit. Then the tipster sent him the trainer's statement. Not exactly, Pulitzer worthy.

I'd also never think I'd be outraged on behalf of Jason Whitlock, but King calling him a "coon for cash" was way out of line.

Exactly, if Manning had played Carson Palmer in the Super Bowl, we wouldn't even be talking about this fabrication of the truth because it would have never existed. I'm not saying Manning didn't do something stupid when he was in college. I'm just saying that this story we're being force fed by the media is a farce and has no real sources to speak of.

The guy is a nut job, who hates white people. And will do anything or say anything to smear a prominent white person.
 

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Exactly, if Manning had played Carson Palmer in the Super Bowl, we wouldn't even be talking about this fabrication of the truth because it would have never existed. I'm not saying Manning didn't do something stupid when he was in college. I'm just saying that this story we're being force fed by the media is a farce and has no real sources to speak of.

The guy is a nut job, who hates white people. And will do anything or say anything to smear a prominent white person.

If we're supposed to congratulate Ray Lewis for not being an assesory to anymore murders, I don't see why Peyton deserves to have this brought up again.

I know WHY it is.
 
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