OT: OT Thread Part IV - Dean Ambrose, please respond.

[Crease]

Is this new news? Thanks for sharing. Interesting. I wonder if a 40's/50's period piece featuring a trailblazing duo is some kind of retribution for the not-so-flattering depiction of women in the first series. I know that was under fire for a little bit and maybe it influenced Pizzolatto? Who would be your choices for the female leads? Hard women...

New news. It was mentioned last night on a phone call with Pizzolatto after the finale aired. I love the idea of a period piece. Like a bleaker version of LA Confidential. No doubt the True Detective costume and set design staff would hit it out of the park.

Who would I like to see? Not sure. But if you asked me a few months ago if McConaughey and Harrelson could pull off a noir piece like this, I would have said no way. So I'd like to continue being surprised. Maybe Tina Fey and Amy Poehler?

 

[aufheben]

New news. It was mentioned last night on a phone call with Pizzolatto after the finale aired. I love the idea of a period piece. Like a bleaker version of LA Confidential. No doubt the True Detective costume and set design staff would hit it out of the park.

Who would I like to see? Not sure. But if you asked me a few months ago if McConaughey and Harrelson could pull off a noir piece like this, I would have said no way. So I'd like to continue being surprised. Maybe Tina Fey and Amy Poehler?

What was the deal with that blue spiral coming down from the top of the sacrifice chamber? Obviously it was Rust's HPPD, but what was the meaning behind it...

 

[Vidic15*]

Nice summarization of how everything came full circle (or should I say, spiral) for the two leads. Spot on. That's what made this series so attractive to me. It was so much more than a crime drama. Such an examination of light and dark and the stories we tell ourselves, wrapped around two transformed characters. So well written and incredibly performed. I really can't think of a better show i've seen.

Is this new news? Thanks for sharing. Interesting. I wonder if a 40's/50's period piece featuring a trailblazing duo is some kind of retribution for the not-so-flattering depiction of women in the first series. I know that was under fire for a little bit and maybe it influenced Pizzolatto? Who would be your choices for the female leads? Hard women...

Jessica Chastain?

 

[Crease]

What was the deal with that blue spiral coming down from the top of the sacrifice chamber? Obviously it was Rust's HPPD, but what was the meaning behind it...

Honestly, I thought it was a perfectly timed device meant to invoke a debate about whether Carcosa and The Yellow King are real or products of the cult leader's imagination. Pan's Labyrinth is a movie that similarly drops enough hints on both sides so that by the end you're thinking, "wait, was that all actually real?" The ritualistic use of hallucinogens by the cult during worship and Rust's history with hallucinogens...perhaps in that moment Rust was seeing what the cult members saw during worship. The spiral was a key symbol in their belief system. Up until that scene, I didn't give any merit to their beliefs. But maybe in that moment, Rust really was "mainlining the secret truth of the universe"...In Pan's Labyrinth, there is no answer. It's left to each viewer to decide for himself.

 

[Gardner McKay]

1 week till FFX HD remaster is released. Completely stoked.

 

[Killem Dafoe]

 

[aufheben]

Your HF tax dollars hard at work.

 

[Killem Dafoe]

Someone should make that video but with shrews. lul

 

[aufheben]

Someone should make that video but with shrews. lul

:: rings bell :: Ohhhhhh Aiiillllllll

 

[Beer League Sniper]

The best thing about the True Detective finale was that it was believably optimistic. After being pounded by justifiably bad vibes throughout the entire show, both Cohle and Hart find a small modicum of hope. So many of us were ready for the show to have a dark, dark ending. This episode was so different than the others, shifting the focus to Errol Childress and Carcosa, ramping up the pace on a deliberately slow show. The climax was a bit formulaic with Childress gutting Cohle, disabling Hart, only to be shot in the head by Cohle right before he lands the killing axe blow on Hart, but I loved it nonetheless. The show really made me care about these two extremely flawed human beings, and it was satisfying to see them get a "happy ending."

 

[Ail]

The best thing about the True Detective finale was that it was believably optimistic. After being pounded by justifiably bad vibes throughout the entire show, both Cohle and Hart find a small modicum of hope. So many of us were ready for the show to have a dark, dark ending. This episode was so different than the others, shifting the focus to Errol Childress and Carcosa, ramping up the pace on a deliberately slow show. The climax was a bit formulaic with Childress gutting Cohle, disabling Hart, only to be shot in the head by Cohle right before he lands the killing axe blow on Hart, but I loved it nonetheless. The show really made me care about these two extremely flawed human beings, and it was satisfying to see them get a "happy ending."

Yeah was definitely not expecting good to prevail here. I did however expect that they would not bring down the whole ring, and only get part, or none of it.

I am eating crow about the daughter, but it still doesn't make sense to me how she accurately replicated the cult's symbols and members without somehow being involved, or being exposed to it in some form or another.

 

[Ail]

The length epilogue nicely brought the show back to its focus -- two men and the ways they've changed over the years. Hart was filled to the brim with self-confidence and the certainty that he had his personal life figured out. But when Maggie and his girls visit him in the hospital out of a certain level of obligation, there's a distance there, and Hart can feel that distance. He's reduced to tears, knowing that he alone created that distance. And Cohle, the blunt realist, the charismatic atheist. But when he felt his daughter and father's presence in that darkness before death, he woke up realizing there just might be more to the human experience than the stories we tell ourselves. His last line -- about light winning -- was the first optimistic thing we hear from Cohle.

Pizzolatto suggested in a since-deleted tweet that Season 2 was going to feature female leads. He also had this to say:



If it is indeed set in Southern California, it might be loosely based on the General Motors Streetcar Conspiracy.

Stoked it is going to remain occult themed. I love this ****.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Just watched the finale of TD.

Loved it. The first 40 minutes was nuts. The final line ended the season and tied the story better than I could have expected. I think the surprise of something tragic was a little bit expected and the odd twist of keeping Cohle alive sharing that final thought caught me off guard in a great way.

That being said, I have a gripe with 2 aspects of the finale.

1) The daughter. I understand now that she was a red herring, but it wasn't explained why she was a red herring and why all of those coincidences occurred. Marty was never really a suspect, or even hinted as a suspect, besides my loose musings. She had too many ties and not one of them was explored in the final 55 minutes. And there was time to give a 3 minute explanation about one thing or another rather than drive on for 15 minutes with slow zoom ins and dramatic fade-outs.

2) The lawnmower man. He was so complex. Surprisingly smart for what his occupation had him doing. Incredibly interesting... And unfortunately the big cahuna. But it was forced. He embodied the concept of the "yellow king". He was, in every facet of the word, psychotic. You could see it in his introducing scene of the episode - talking in different accents about different things throwing a pan at the dog. But he was able to outsmart Rust, Marty, and half the state? He influenced Tuttle to overdose on anti-depressants? His character wasn't done justice. It wasn't evolved to the stage it needed to have been evolved. His wife lady said "he's more terrible than anyone you know" or something of that nature... I saw none of that. Nothing terrifying about him. Nothing to indicate that he was a mastermind.

Those are my two disappointments. Otherwise, a great ****ing first season, and a great ****ing finale. Excited to see what next season brings. I wonder with the success that the first season enjoyed, if they're able to really land some top notch leads for next season- whether they be female or male.

 

[Ex Officer Friendly]

Just watched the finale of TD.

Loved it. The first 40 minutes was nuts. The final line ended the season and tied the story better than I could have expected. I think the surprise of something tragic was a little bit expected and the odd twist of keeping Cohle alive sharing that final thought caught me off guard in a great way.

That being said, I have a gripe with 2 aspects of the finale.

1) The daughter. I understand now that she was a red herring, but it wasn't explained why she was a red herring and why all of those coincidences occurred. Marty was never really a suspect, or even hinted as a suspect, besides my loose musings. She had too many ties and not one of them was explored in the final 55 minutes. And there was time to give a 3 minute explanation about one thing or another rather than drive on for 15 minutes with slow zoom ins and dramatic fade-outs.

2) The lawnmower man. He was so complex. Surprisingly smart for what his occupation had him doing. Incredibly interesting... And unfortunately the big cahuna. But it was forced. He embodied the concept of the "yellow king". He was, in every facet of the word, psychotic. You could see it in his introducing scene of the episode - talking in different accents about different things throwing a pan at the dog. But he was able to outsmart Rust, Marty, and half the state? He influenced Tuttle to overdose on anti-depressants? His character wasn't done justice. It wasn't evolved to the stage it needed to have been evolved. His wife lady said "he's more terrible than anyone you know" or something of that nature... I saw none of that. Nothing terrifying about him. Nothing to indicate that he was a mastermind.

Those are my two disappointments. Otherwise, a great ****ing first season, and a great ****ing finale. Excited to see what next season brings. I wonder with the success that the first season enjoyed, if they're able to really land some top notch leads for next season- whether they be female or male.

Dude.... Spoilers

 

[Crease]

Dude.... Spoilers

I learned my lesson with Game of Thrones. If you don't want spoilers, avoid the internet.

 

[Ex Officer Friendly]

I learned my lesson with Game of Thrones. If you don't want spoilers, avoid the internet.

Hey mister... You may have an authoritative avatar... Don't tell me what to do! lol

 

[The Gloaming]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/awesome-corgi-cross-breeds?s=mobile

Oh my god, I need to find a Corgi/Golden Retriever puppy.

 

[aufheben]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/awesome-corgi-cross-breeds?s=mobile

Oh my god, I need to find a Corgi/Golden Retriever puppy.

lirl @ the Corgi/Chow

GOAT Corgi:

 

[Beer League Sniper]

I can't believe they still haven't found any trace of MH370. Something seriously fishy about the entire situation...

 

[nyrpassion]

I can't believe they still haven't found any trace of MH370. Something seriously fishy about the entire situation...

****'s pretty scary.
there's no clear cut operation though. each country doing it's own ****, then you get conflicting reports etc.
for example, WHY are we just hearing that the plane turned back now? WHY are they searching in the Gulf of Thailand and not in the Straits of Malacca?? Wouldn't they have radar available real-time, so they'd know where it disappeared when it did, so why waste time in a "wrong" search area.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

****'s pretty scary.
there's no clear cut operation though. each country doing it's own ****, then you get conflicting reports etc.
for example, WHY are we just hearing that the plane turned back now? WHY are they searching in the Gulf of Thailand and not in the Straits of Malacca?? Wouldn't they have radar available real-time, so they'd know where it disappeared when it did, so why waste time in a "wrong" search area.

The best way I've heard it described is that civilian radar actually depends on the aircraft transponder to send out a pulse in order to locate it. If that transponder is disabled somehow, either deliberately or through some malfunction, civilian radar isn't equipped to handle that. Hence, it can disappear.

Now, there's another type of radar, surveillance, which is used by militaries. Surveillance radar is designed to detect movement of large objects, whether they want to be detected or not. This is apparently the type of radar that picked up the movements of MH370.

Now, you might ask why they didn't know sooner. I can only guess that nothing seemed out of the ordinary to the radar observer, since there are probably many civilian aircraft flying through each station's range at any given time. The radar's observer, if there even is one at all times, would only be looking for fast-moving military-type aircraft that could be seen as a threat. And while these civilian aircraft can certainly be seen on radar, I don't think they're identified by surveillance radar like they are by civilian radar, since civilian radar uses the transponders on the aircraft (with their own unique signature) to both identify and locate each plane.

Long story short, it probably took some time to go back through surveillance radar data logs and determine which aircraft was actually MH370, since they don't get unique signatures. They probably had to cross-reference information from many different sources (civilian radar data logs, flight plans/schedules from all the different carriers operating in the region, etc.) to arrive at the proper conclusion.

 

[Ail]

I can't believe they still haven't found any trace of MH370. Something seriously fishy about the entire situation...

I think I have found the answer...

 

[Ail]

The best way I've heard it described is that civilian radar actually depends on the aircraft transponder to send out a pulse in order to locate it. If that transponder is disabled somehow, either deliberately or through some malfunction, civilian radar isn't equipped to handle that. Hence, it can disappear.

Not to go off topic but, they said the same thing on 9/11 about the planes and their transponders because of the outrage that they were not able to take these planes down before they flew in to buildings, it's actually not true.

Turning off transponder simply makes it impossible for an FAA ATC traffic controller from using secondary radar search to obtain aircraft's identity as to Airline and Flight Number. This inability to 'ping' unknown/unidentified aircraft in controlled airspace over USA makes it STAND OUT like a sore thumb.

FAA ATC primary radar search ALWAYS....ALWAYS...ALWAYS...has any flying objects in the sky in FULL VIEW 100% of the time. Hence, FAA ATC traffic controllers can give precise information to the location of this "bogie" - it's location, it's altitude, etc.

It is used to identify an airplane, not track them. I'm not saying it's the same for international flights, but I would have to imagine airports have measures in place as to not just "lose" planes mid flight.

 

[aufheben]

If anyone can find me a recipe for those Rib-E-Que sandwiches they serve at school lunches, I will take thee under thy wing as Shrew Apprentice.

 

[nyrpassion]

The best way I've heard it described is that civilian radar actually depends on the aircraft transponder to send out a pulse in order to locate it. If that transponder is disabled somehow, either deliberately or through some malfunction, civilian radar isn't equipped to handle that. Hence, it can disappear.

Now, there's another type of radar, surveillance, which is used by militaries. Surveillance radar is designed to detect movement of large objects, whether they want to be detected or not. This is apparently the type of radar that picked up the movements of MH370.

Now, you might ask why they didn't know sooner. I can only guess that nothing seemed out of the ordinary to the radar observer, since there are probably many civilian aircraft flying through each station's range at any given time. The radar's observer, if there even is one at all times, would only be looking for fast-moving military-type aircraft that could be seen as a threat. And while these civilian aircraft can certainly be seen on radar, I don't think they're identified by surveillance radar like they are by civilian radar, since civilian radar uses the transponders on the aircraft (with their own unique signature) to both identify and locate each plane.

Long story short, it probably took some time to go back through surveillance radar data logs and determine which aircraft was actually MH370, since they don't get unique signatures. They probably had to cross-reference information from many different sources (civilian radar data logs, flight plans/schedules from all the different carriers operating in the region, etc.) to arrive at the proper conclusion.

Yes, but a civilian radar just doesn't lose a object in the sky. If the transponder is off, there is still something. Which brings me to the primary radars (military), they had to notice a an object just literally disappear from radar.
This whole thing is just such a ****show though. I must applaud Vietnam though, they've been on the search since the start and it's not their plane or wasn't goiing to/from their country.