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Crease said:
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I don't expect a big twist in the final episode.

Errol (the lawnmower guy), according to the elder black woman Rust and Marty interviewed in episode 7, is the grandson of the Tuttle patriarch and is therefore either Reverend Billy Lee Tuttle's son or nephew. Errol's scars were given to him by his father. We also know now thanks to the interviews that Errol is related to a Childress (they're scattered throughout State PD) and associated with the Ledoux boys. Errol is also the worst of the men who abused the girl found in Ledoux's backwoods estate.

I don't buy for a second that Errol is the "Yellow King". In fact, I don't believe there is a Yellow King. I think the Yellow King is simply an icon that the cult revolves their beliefs around.

I also want to mention that Woody Harrelson's Marty Hart has been stealing scenes left and right since about halfway through the season. McConaughey is rightfully going to win a lot of awards for this performance but I've been loving what Woody is doing with his character. Seeing Marty sit there eating his crappy TV dinner saying how banal his life is now was probably the most devastating scene for me in the whole series :laugh:

What's coming up in episode 8?

I think there is a strong possibility Cohle and Hart do not survive to the ending credits. And I think episode 7 did a nice job foreshadowing this possibility. Marty visits his ex-wife for the first time in two years just to "check-in". Maggie gets a weird sense from him. "Are you here to say goodbye?" She gets the same feeling we do -- that Marty and Rust are walking into some serious danger. And Rust says his "life's been a circle of violence and degradation, as long as I can remember. I'm ready to tie it off."
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Agree with all of this 100%. Including the fact that one or both of Rust and Marty die. I have a feeling they might end up being killed by the two policemen investigating Rust, whom I am not completely convinced aren't after Rust because of what he knows, and are being pushed to pin everything on him to keep the family secret just that.

I can't see this having a happy ending other than the fact that maybe they take down a couple of the cultists with them. Stuff like this that is buried in real life always ends with the loose ends being tied up, and the good guys dead or in jail.

This cult in particular has had a pagan feel from the beginning, it's certainly not directly satanic (although you can argue all occult and ritual belief goes back to the worship of Lucifer and Satan when you trace it back far enough) however has themes in black magick. The totems, animal fetishes, and stone altars (presumably Carcosa) all point to druidic and pagan ritual. However ritual sex magick, and child sacrifice is generally associated with black magick and Satanic worship.
 
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Rust Heisenberg said:
Crease, I still don't fully agree.

It's not just lawnmower man, and something drastic will happen, in my opinion.

While I'm slowly letting go of Marty as a suspect, I still firmly believe the key to this is him. Rust says time is an endless circle where everything happens over and over. Marty says the answer was right in front of him. He's lost contact with his daughter again. They made mention that she was an artist with a new boyfriend. She's still somehow connected I think. Her BF likely being a part to this.

Also, lawnmower man did not kill Tuttle. Whoever killed Tuttle is still out there and I think we find that to be a big twist. That's definitely a loose end, as is the daughter's involvement.

Finally, I do think there will be some death. Rust wants to end his life, Marty gets his repentance on screen where the viewer connects to him. Both of those are cinematic death sentences. I'll be interested to see what they have in store. I truly believe the climax and twist will shock us.
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His daughter is 100% involved, she has been too much of a focus throughout the show. The scene with the dolls implies she is somehow connected. Early on I personally thought Marty was sexually abusing her, thus leading to her drawings and the dolls, rebellion and hatred of her father.

However, I believe the sexual abuse came from another source. The source is debatable, but the sexual abuse is not. Children subjected to sexual abuse early on exhibit all of the qualities she has throughout the show. Was it someone at school? Perhaps someone on her mother's side of the family? Her grandparents seemed rich. They never mentioned what school(s) she went to but you would have to think if she attended one of the Tuttle schools Marty would have brought that to light. There is a missing link there.
 
Killem Dafoe said:
I think there's something else going on with Danny McBride there. He seems sketchy, like he knows of something else in Washington and is using the cure as an excuse.

Let it be known, I haven't read the comics, so if I'm way off base, I apologize.

TWD does that sometimes. They seem to focus an entire episode on two people walking 10 feet down the road. I love the dialogue, action, sets, acting, and everything else. It's just a let down that you have to wait another week to see if they made it down the road.
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Yeah, I don't read the comics either. I just started watching the series a month ago and caught up last weekend. But Beth did some nice foreshadowing with her "You're gonna be the last one standing Daryl Dixon." I personally think when they end the show, it's gonna be Carl who survives and the writers do a "pass the torch" sorta thing.
 
Ail said:
His daughter is 100% involved, she has been too much of a focus throughout the show. The scene with the dolls implies she is somehow connected. Early on I personally thought Marty was sexually abusing her, thus leading to her drawings and the dolls, rebellion and hatred of her father.

However, I believe the sexual abuse came from another source. The source is debatable, but the sexual abuse is not. Children subjected to sexual abuse early on exhibit all of the qualities she has throughout the show. Was it someone at school? Perhaps someone on her mother's side of the family? Her grandparents seemed rich. They never mentioned what school(s) she went to but you would have to think if she attended one of the Tuttle schools Marty would have brought that to light. There is a missing link there.
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I don't see the daughter being involved. I think that all of that is a red herring to just show you how the evil bleeds rough to other aspects.

We would know if she went to a Tuttle school. They wouldn't keep that from us.
 
BlessThisMess513 said:
Yeah, I don't read the comics either. I just started watching the series a month ago and caught up last weekend. But Beth did some nice foreshadowing with her "You're gonna be the last one standing Daryl Dixon." I personally think when they end the show, it's gonna be Carl who survives and the writers do a "pass the torch" sorta thing.
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Someone said somewhere (I think Facebook) that they think Rick wakes up at the end in the hospital from a coma when he was shot. And the entire show is just a dream.

I would kill something. haha But i agree, Carl is starting to wear his big boy pants now, but he needs a smackin'.
 
BrianBoyle said:
Honestly I don't get the zombie love in movies/games/etc. That ****'s been beaten into the ground.
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Nazi Zombies from Call of Duty is one of the greatest things I have ever experienced.

Also, zombies are my favorite movie monster. Vampires and werewolves have gone the way of the Rangers. Soft.
 
Ail said:
His daughter is 100% involved, she has been too much of a focus throughout the show. The scene with the dolls implies she is somehow connected. Early on I personally thought Marty was sexually abusing her, thus leading to her drawings and the dolls, rebellion and hatred of her father.

However, I believe the sexual abuse came from another source. The source is debatable, but the sexual abuse is not. Children subjected to sexual abuse early on exhibit all of the qualities she has throughout the show. Was it someone at school? Perhaps someone on her mother's side of the family? Her grandparents seemed rich. They never mentioned what school(s) she went to but you would have to think if she attended one of the Tuttle schools Marty would have brought that to light. There is a missing link there.
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I'm wrestling with the purpose of Audrey's story line. Either

1) All that stuff (the dolls, the artwork, the teenage angst) is foreshadowing that she was a victim or that she saw something at her grandfather's that she wasn't supposed to; or

2) All that stuff is meant to highlight Marty's failings as a father, illustrate what kind of person he is, and further his character development.

With only one hour left, I'm definitely leaning towards the latter.
 
Crease said:
I'm wrestling with the purpose of Audrey's story line. Either

1) All that stuff (the dolls, the artwork, the teenage angst) is foreshadowing that she was a victim or that she saw something at her grandfather's that she wasn't supposed to; or

2) All that stuff is meant to highlight Marty's failings as a father, illustrate what kind of person he is, and further his character development.

With only one hour left, I'm definitely leaning towards the latter.
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The latter is the most plausible for sure. But I still think the FIL fits in somehow, though. Otherwise, what's the point of his character? Could be a red herring, but he seemed too important.
 
Crease said:
I'm wrestling with the purpose of Audrey's story line. Either

1) All that stuff (the dolls, the artwork, the teenage angst) is foreshadowing that she was a victim or that she saw something at her grandfather's that she wasn't supposed to; or

2) All that stuff is meant to highlight Marty's failings as a father, illustrate what kind of person he is, and further his character development.

With only one hour left, I'm definitely leaning towards the latter.
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Yeah the problem is fitting everything in to one hour.

Unless she somehow ends up in whatever showdown occurs between Marty/Rust and the occultists, I think the latter is certainly more plausible. Maybe it is a stretch to think she magically shows up out of the blue, involved with the cult. All her mother said to Marty about her was she was an artist and living with her boyfriend, I think.

I am probably going to DL the first 7 episodes and watch them again this week.
 
Bob Richards said:
Nazi Zombies from Call of Duty is one of the greatest things I have ever experienced.
Also, zombies are my favorite movie monster. Vampires and werewolves have gone the way of the Rangers. Soft.
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We need a new monster trend. Dragons? The new Godzilla movie could be a good start on that.
 
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Tawnos said:
We need a new monster trend. Dragons? The new Godzilla movie could be a good start on that.
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The trailers look pretty cool and I have way too much free time in my life so I know what I'll be doing when it comes out. :laugh:
 
"You know Turbo Lover? This is turbo gravy." Judas Priest reference in a cooking segment. :laugh:
 
Rust Heisenberg said:
Crease, I still don't fully agree.

It's not just lawnmower man, and something drastic will happen, in my opinion.

While I'm slowly letting go of Marty as a suspect, I still firmly believe the key to this is him. Rust says time is an endless circle where everything happens over and over. Marty says the answer was right in front of him. He's lost contact with his daughter again. They made mention that she was an artist with a new boyfriend. She's still somehow connected I think. Her BF likely being a part to this.

Also, lawnmower man did not kill Tuttle. Whoever killed Tuttle is still out there and I think we find that to be a big twist. That's definitely a loose end, as is the daughter's involvement.

Finally, I do think there will be some death. Rust wants to end his life, Marty gets his repentance on screen where the viewer connects to him. Both of those are cinematic death sentences. I'll be interested to see what they have in store. I truly believe the climax and twist will shock us.
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I went back and re-watched the interview they had with the lawnmower man in episode three. He alluded that him cleaning up at the school was some sort of work release and only had been working there for a few months across the properties. That was back in '95 to Rust. Now flash forward to the other detectives, he's more than willing to say that he is apart of a family who has been there for years.

Completely different body language and story.
 
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