Oshawa Generals 2024 25 Season Thread Part Ii

[trellaine201]

When does the series begin? Next Friday?

 

[Roadhog]

When does the series begin? Next Friday?

Yes

 

[Donnie740]

Wonder what the odds of Barlow coming back would be.

Below a point per game in 61 games. Way fewer goals than previous years too and never really has looked like himself.

Aware he is a a signed 1st round pick but he has bust written all over him. Can’t go NCAA for a year since he’s signed and probably not AHL ready if he isn’t even putting up the points at the OHL level.

It’s not just this season that’s been a “down year” - - Barlow has been regressing since his draft year. There’s no question he’s been a massive disappointment in Oshawa this year. If you recall, I was one of the few people who strongly opposed the idea of Oshawa acquiring him.

Barlow has a quick release and a powerful shot, but the accuracy just isn’t consistently there. It doesn’t do much good to blast a shot three feet wide of the net. Aside from his shot, there’s not much else to Barlow’s game. Average to below average skater, not physical, isn’t able to create for himself and definitely not able to create for teammates.

So while it’s a very valid question to suggest that Barlow might return to the OHL next year, there’s two reasons why it almost assuredly will never happen.

Leaving Barlow in the OHL as an over age player would be an embarrassing acknowledgment of failure by Winnipeg management. And since Cheveldayoff is the one who drafted him, he’s never going to be willing to admit to making such a massive mistake - - not just by making the mistake of taking him in the mid 1st round, but in compounding the mistake by giving him an ELC.

The other reason why Winnipeg would never leave Barlow in the OHL is because Oshawa’s coaching is so terrible. Maybe if he was in London playing for the Hunter brothers it’d be a different story, but Barlow certainly isn’t going to learn anything from Brad Malone. None of Oshawa’s 1st round NHL picks have progressed at all this year.

In fact, Danford and Ritchie have both regressed. It’s just not quite as obvious as Barlow’s fall off. Sennecke hasn’t taken a step forward either - - his scoring increased but his undisciplined penalties/suspensions and careless turnovers have been painfully evident.

Ritchie and Sennecke really faded badly over the past six weeks. Ritchie has 1 goal and 6 assists over his last 12 games. That prorates to a 40 point season. Sennecke has been marginally better with 2 goals and 9 assists over his last 12 games, but that’s way below what you’d expect from a player of his talent.

 

[yessir29292]

It’s not just this season that’s been a “down year” - - Barlow has been regressing since his draft year. There’s no question he’s been a massive disappointment in Oshawa this year. If you recall, I was one of the few people who strongly opposed the idea of Oshawa acquiring him.

Barlow has a quick release and a powerful shot, but the accuracy just isn’t consistently there. It doesn’t do much good to blast a shot three feet wide of the net. Aside from his shot, there’s not much else to Barlow’s game. Average to below average skater, not physical, isn’t able to create for himself and definitely not able to create for teammates.

So while it’s a very valid question to suggest that Barlow might return to the OHL next year, there’s two reasons why it almost assuredly will never happen.

Leaving Barlow in the OHL as an over age player would be an embarrassing acknowledgment of failure by Winnipeg management. And since Cheveldayoff is the one who drafted him, he’s never going to be willing to admit to making such a massive mistake - - not just by making the mistake of taking him in the mid 1st round, but in compounding the mistake by giving him an ELC.

The other reason why Winnipeg would never leave Barlow in the OHL is because Oshawa’s coaching is so terrible. Maybe if he was in London playing for the Hunter brothers it’d be a different story, but Barlow certainly isn’t going to learn anything from Brad Malone. None of Oshawa’s 1st round NHL picks have progressed at all this year.

In fact, Danford and Ritchie have both regressed. It’s just not quite as obvious as Barlow’s fall off. Sennecke hasn’t taken a step forward either - - his scoring increased but his undisciplined penalties/suspensions and careless turnovers have been painfully evident.

Ritchie and Sennecke really faded badly over the past six weeks. Ritchie has 1 goal and 6 assists over his last 12 games. That prorates to a 40 point season. Sennecke has been marginally better with 2 goals and 9 assists over his last 12 games, but that’s way below what you’d expect from a player of his talent.

Yeah, the only thing from Barlow that points to 1st round talent is his goal scoring from his d-1 and dy, nothing else. I think he is a better player than he's shown this year, though.

I agree there is no chance he plays in the OHL next year. Brennan Othmann production nearly halved when he went to the Petes in his d+2 as well. Went from 0.75 GPG and 1.5 PPG to less than half a GPG and a PPG player. Both mid FRPs. THough Othmann is not exactly what you are looking for, he had a solid first two seasons in the AHL and has a good shot at being a full-time NHLer next season. Hopefully, for Barlow's sake, he can follow a similar trajectory.

 

[bigsportsfan]

I see that Kingston and Oshawa both ended up with 88 points. But Oshawa had one more win than Kingston. When two teams tie in the standings, isn't the tiebreaker who has more wins. But in the standings, Kingston finished above Oshawa. Is the tiebreaker no longer the number of wins?

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

I see that Kingston and Oshawa both ended up with 88 points. But Oshawa had one more win than Kingston. When two teams tie in the standings, isn't the tiebreaker who has more wins. But in the standings, Kingston finished above Oshawa. Is the tiebreaker no longer the number of wins?

No it’s ROW which Kingston had more. They also subtract any shootout wins from the totals too. The second tie breaker would have been head to head.

 

[HUSH10]

No it’s ROW which Kingston had more. They also subtract any shootout wins from the totals too. The second tie breaker would have been head to head.

Which I always thought was dumb. I thought it should go head to head first but c-est la vie.