Oshawa Generals 2024-25 Season Thread, Part 1

[OMG67]

You’re all entitled to your opinion and it’s highly subjective, but after watching nearly every game of his since he got to oshawa, he isn’t a player who relies on his size to cheat the game or take advantage of smaller guys, he’s honestly more of a skilled player despite his size. That’s why I think a situation where he will handle the puck a lot more, play PP minutes and be a relied upon player will he more beneficial for his long term development than playing 4th line minutes against pro’s. Unless the Rangers don’t see him ever being a top 9 guy at the NHL level and are just developing a future 4th line guy, puck touches are the #1 factor in player development in 2024. It may sound crazy, but oshawa has far superior facilities to Hartford as well, for whatever that’s worth. To me if they’re serious about developing him, play him with some experienced pro’s and get him PP time, allow his offensive game to develop rather than stunting that area of his game. But to each their own, there are no right answers. Do you think Allard being sent to the Soo is a mistake? He’s not as tall as Roobroeck, but is a better all around player, has WJC experience and was a higher pick in the NHL.

Because of his size, it is very difficult to contain him at the OHL level. That allows him to cheat his development. What he can get away with at the OHL level, he can’t at the AHL level. IT really is that simple.

He needs to be up against bigger and more mature players so he is adequately challenged physically so he can learn how to use his size effectively because at the AHL and NHL level he will NEED to.

 

[Generalsupdates]

If Smith goes , OS won't take an OA in return.

This year is about developing a young roster.

They'd go the last 3 months with 2 OA, and either a younger Dman or picks to turn into one .

Smith staying on as C couldn't have worked better.

Dale DeGray is a guy who always wants to make the playoffs. Tanking isn't in his blood. Could see him, more than anyone, want an OA coming back to help the D-core from getting caved in the rest of the season.

You need to start listening to @HUSH10 and I! Lol. Just like when I told ya Delisle, Bedkowski and picks would make sense for Barlow (and you told me Delisle wasn’t good enough), we were bang on again that DeGray would want an OA Dman to mentor his young team and prevent them from getting caved in because he’s always wanting to make the playoffs. I just thought it would come 2 months from now instead of 2 weeks after I said it! Lol

 

[Stellar29]

You need to start listening to us! Lol. Just like when I told ya Delisle, Bedkowski and picks would make sense for Barlow (and you told me Delisle wasn’t good enough), we were bang on again that DeGray would want an OA Dman to mentor his young team and prevent them from getting caved in because he’s always wanting to make the playoffs. I just thought it would come 2 months from now instead of 2 weeks after I said it! Lol

It was a move necessitated by injury. Bedkowski is still on the shelf for around two weeks and with Smith out injured as well now, they only have 5 healthy D. They needed another body and don't really have any internal options so in comes Leonard. Price is right too.

 

[Generalsupdates]

It was a move necessitated by injury. Bedkowski is still on the shelf for around two weeks and with Smith out injured as well now, they only have 5 healthy D. They needed another body and don't really have any internal options so in comes Leonard. Price is right too.

If "it was about developing a young roster" like he said, they could sign an 07 or 08. But DeGray (smartly) doesn't want his team to get caved in the rest of the season so he wants an OA to fill that spot, which is literally what we told the other OS poster would happen, it just happened 2 months early lol

 

[Stellar29]

If "it was about developing a young roster" like he said, they could sign an 07 or 08. But DeGray (smartly) doesn't want his team to get caved in the rest of the season so he wants an OA to fill that spot, which is literally what we told the other OS poster would happen, it just happened 2 months early lol

You could sign an 07 or 08 if Owen Sound had any that were OHL caliber in their prospect pool lol. The only two that would fit that bill are both headed to the NCAA, Mason Roy and Jet Kwajah. I don't think this was a move they wanted to make but had to. They can't wait to make a move and play with 5 D for two weeks trying to acquire a young player from another organization, Leonard was available now.

 

[Generalsupdates]

You could sign an 07 or 08 if Owen Sound had any that were OHL caliber in their prospect pool lol. The only two that would fit that bill are both headed to the NCAA, Mason Roy and Jet Kwajah. I don't think this was a move they wanted to make but had to. They can't wait to make a move and play with 5 D for two weeks trying to acquire a young player from another organization, Leonard was available now.

Yeah it's definitely the right move, which is what we told him. And it was always going to happen, which is what we told him lol. Even if Smith was healthy until the deadline, they were going to trade him and go with only 6D the rest of the year so if one got suspended/hurt, they only had 5? Of course not, they were always going to have an OA D-man coming back. But when we told him that he said we were wrong. Now 10 days later when they do the thing we told him they were gonna, he's over the moon and loves the move

 

[Stellar29]

Yeah it's definitely the right move, which is what we told him. And it was always going to happen, which is what we told him lol. Even if Smith was healthy until the deadline, they were going to trade him and go with only 6D the rest of the year so if one got suspended/hurt, they only had 5? Of course not, they were always going to have an OA D-man coming back. But when we told him that he said we were wrong. Now 10 days later when they do the thing we told him they were gonna, he's over the moon and loves the move

I don't think anyone thought they would look to run the rest of the season on 6D. They needed another body. I think the idea was once Smith moved, ice time would fall to some of the other pieces on the roster rather than bringing in another OA D to eat those minutes. The young D pieces on the Attack roster have surpassed expectations in the early going. I think the 7th D could have come by way of a player getting squeezed out of a team that made upgrades that could have contributed in Owen Sound beyond this year.

I think in general you'd have a hard time finding an Owen Sound fan who isn't happy about the move for Leonard to replace the injured Smith for the time being. If Smith were healthy this move doesn't take place, maybe it doesn't take place if Bedkowski is healthy either as they still would have had 6 healthy D. Can't run 5D while waiting on Bedkowski which is what necessitated this move.

The deadline is till months away so things are subject to change. If the Attack D hold up then they may not need a veteran OA D to soak minutes and take away the ice time for the younger guys to further develop.

 

[Generalsupdates]

I don't think anyone thought they would look to run the rest of the season on 6D.

He literally said they wouldn't be bringing in a veteran D because this year is "all about developing the youth", so yeah at least one person thought that lol. Anyways, enough of his insane, embarrassing backpedaling and back to Gens matters..


Send Ritchie back!

 

[Noddy]

He's back...
Avalanche Calum Ritchie has been reassigned to the Oshawa Generals of the Ontario Hockey League.

 

[HUSH10]

As if there was ever doubt he would be back!

Let's start cooking!

 

[Generalsupdates]

As if there was ever doubt he would be back!

Let's start cooking!

He’s not playing tonight but is hopeful he can tomorrow night in Kingston

 

[Generalsupdates]

Was able to get my hands on the AHL tracking stats for Hartford. Roobroeck is his 4 AHL games:

12:40 average TOI, 0G, 0A, -1, 20/39 on draws (51.3%)

 

[ScoutLife4]

Was able to get my hands on the AHL tracking stats for Hartford. Roobroeck is his 4 AHL games:

12:40 average TOI, 0G, 0A, -1, 20/39 on draws (51.3%)

Playing almost 13Min's as a rookie and going over 50% in the circle is pretty solid.
The pts will come as his role grows he is probably not getting a lot of offensive zone faceoffs yet.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Playing almost 13Min's as a rookie and going over 50% in the circle is pretty solid.
The pts will come as his role grows he is probably not getting a lot of offensive zone faceoffs yet.

Hartford has 7 2002-2004 born Fs and 5 of the other 6 are playing considerably more than Roobroeck. Him and BMB are really the only rookie Fs who aren't getting consistent minutes

 

[Jackintheshwa]

Brutal hockey tonight.

 

[HUSH10]

Brutal hockey tonight.

I think you meant brutal officiating. At least in the 1st period.

 

[HUSH10]

I think you meant brutal officiating. At least in the 1st period.

Sorry, I spoke to soon, it's both periods so far

 

[HUSH10]

Sorry, I spoke to soon, it's both periods so far

I stand corrected again, these refs are absolutely horrible. Might be the worst officiated game I've seen this year.

 

[HUSH10]

Congratulations on the Niagara Ice Refs on being handed every opportunity to not lose the game.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Gens outplayed them the majority of the night but a brutal turnover for a goal against early, Kevin He with a lucky one off his chest, and Gens PK not picking them up late was the difference. Pretty good road effort from the Gens tonight. Their PK has just been dogshit so far this year. Ritchie and Roobroek were both heavily relied on the PK last year

 

[Jackintheshwa]

We had 6 PPs to their 4. Not all on the refs. Looked better in spots but still lacking some chemistry and we still lost in the end.

 

[three dog night]

Congratulations on the Niagara Ice Refs on being handed every opportunity to not lose the game.

Bull you had sx power plays

 

[HUSH10]

Bull you had sx power plays

Dangerous hit in the corner on Danford, should've been a major. Franssen grabs them, they equally drop gloves but Franssen gets 2+5+10 and Dog only gets 2 for the hit.


Danford has clean hit at center ice, dog grabs him, puts him in headlock, drops closes, punches him twice in the head but only gets 2 mins.

End of 3rd, high sticking call is called 2 mins for no blood. Dog bites down on lip, draw blood, cries for approx 2 mins and convinces refs to give him the call to for a 4 Min Powerplay to end the game.

Only thing I AM going to put on the Gens is Oster made a horrible decision to play that puck with He right in front of him causing the 2-0 lead yet still, the better Oshawa team brought it back.

He is a stud, so is Loshko, and Flores made some amazing saves tonight but the refs made some horrible judgment calls in that game.

 

[three dog night]

Dangerous hit in the corner on Danford, should've been a major. Franssen grabs them, they equally drop gloves but Franssen gets 2+5+10 and Dog only gets 2 for the hit.


Danford has clean hit at center ice, dog grabs him, puts him in headlock, drops closes, punches him twice in the head but only gets 2 mins.

End of 3rd, high sticking call is called 2 mins for no blood. Dog bites down on lip, draw blood, cries for approx 2 mins and convinces refs to give him the call to for a 4 Min Powerplay to end the game.

Only thing I AM going to put on the Gens is Oster made a horrible decision to play that puck with He right in front of him causing the 2-0 lead yet still, the better Oshawa team brought it back.

He is a stud, so is Loshko, and Flores made some amazing saves tonight but the refs made some horrible judgment calls in that game.

They reviewed the hit and Assadourian got four minutes

 

[dogs777]

Dangerous hit in the corner on Danford, should've been a major. Franssen grabs them, they equally drop gloves but Franssen gets 2+5+10 and Dog only gets 2 for the hit.


Danford has clean hit at center ice, dog grabs him, puts him in headlock, drops closes, punches him twice in the head but only gets 2 mins.

End of 3rd, high sticking call is called 2 mins for no blood. Dog bites down on lip, draw blood, cries for approx 2 mins and convinces refs to give him the call to for a 4 Min Powerplay to end the game.

Only thing I AM going to put on the Gens is Oster made a horrible decision to play that puck with He right in front of him causing the 2-0 lead yet still, the better Oshawa team brought it back.

He is a stud, so is Loshko, and Flores made some amazing saves tonight but the refs made some horrible judgment calls in that game.

I agree with you on hit in the first I thought it was a major but the 2+5+10 made sense (because it’s the OHL) I also agree with the Danford play solid hit. As for the high stick maybe he bites his own lip but he was going crazy showing the refs the blood pretty quickly after it happened so I’m surprised they had to have a conversation first. I saw calls both ways that seemed pretty obvious from the stands that were missed including what looked like a holding the stick penalty that led to the first Gens goal