OT: Optimism in Canada

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We agree to disagree then....

Understood...

And no matter what the U.S. does it doesn't matter what I think or you think, we are in no position to do anything about it.

Thats my point.

It's too late, you have all f'd up. I never voted in any of these coil suckers.

And, no matter what you spout, we are just all along for the ride.

Go ahead. Make my day. Be a hero.
We are in every position to do something about it. We are a sovereign country. Not Americas little bitch.
 
My wife had never heard of Winnipeg, or Manitoba, before meeting me

Most Americans don't give Canada any thought at all. They aren't attacking anyone. They would just like to see the problems that they face within their border addressed, including poverty, homelessness and opioid crisis

The anti-American sentiment in this country existed long before the tariffs. The amount of prejudice and stereotyping going on is borderline xenophobic
Calling Canadians xenophobic in a thread where Americans are part of the discussion is pretty funny
 
He's not asking us to "police the borders" Fentanyl is pouring over into Canada through the ports in Vancouver and then shipped across the US and Canada. Anyone notice the 3 billion dollar fine that TD Bank just paid for money laundering for the Mexican drug cartels. No offence, but you guys should move past getting your news from CBC. We are not winning a trade war with the USA and we ARE to blame for electing leaders that care more about sending money to foreign countries (more money laundering) then looking after their own people. We need someone that cares half as much as Trump cares about Americans.
Lol. A Canadian bank paid a money laundering fine... any guesses as to how many American banks have paid money laundering fines? You're buying into the Fox news rhetoric worse than the CBC shills. Canada didn't start the opioid epidemic in the US. They did that all by themselves, and pretended it was medical care.
 
Dw, a large number of people living in the USA well be sharing in the pain and don't want any of the bullshit that's going to happen between the two countries over the next while.

Yup, it's the consumers and workers on both sides of the borders that lose in this. Tarifs force prices up on both sides at a time when a good many people can't absorb it.
 
He's not asking us to "police the borders" Fentanyl is pouring over into Canada through the ports in Vancouver and then shipped across the US and Canada. Anyone notice the 3 billion dollar fine that TD Bank just paid for money laundering for the Mexican drug cartels. No offence, but you guys should move past getting your news from CBC. We are not winning a trade war with the USA and we ARE to blame for electing leaders that care more about sending money to foreign countries (more money laundering) then looking after their own people. We need someone that cares half as much as Trump cares about Americans.
Seriously are you really this unaware of what is happening in the world?
 
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Calling Canadians xenophobic in a thread where Americans are part of the discussion is pretty funny

I've heard this take a couple of years back, only from some internet forum member was complaining about xenophobia against people with Russian background, a year after Russia launched a full scale invasion against Ukraine. We would be fooling ourselves, if we were to say there are no parallels with what Ukraine situation (first Russian misinformation campaigns, followed by election interference, then annexing the Crimea, and finally, full scale war), and what Canadians are enduring at the present.

It's amazing the mental gymnastics some will go through to defend the aggressors. On that note, I would hope that people boycott the National Post, Sun Newspapers, Rebel News, etc. These organisations are only "Canadian" in name, but do everything humanly possible to work against Canada's best interest.
 
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What is lame to you?
Booing the USA anthem means you are booooing 340 million Americans that you don’t know and have done nothing to you.

Including Kyle Connor, Connor Hellybuck, Pionk, Samberg, Apples, Iafallo. Likely a few I’m forgetting.

Classless. Boo the Canadian anthem because you don’t like what your Canadian government is doing and has done for too many years now? Is that cool too?
 
Booing the USA anthem means you are booooing 340 million Americans that you don’t know and have done nothing to you.

Including Kyle Connor, Connor Hellybuck, Pionk, Samberg, Apples, Iafallo. Likely a few I’m forgetting.

Classless. Boo the Canadian anthem because you don’t like what your Canadian government is doing and has done for too many years now? Is that cool too?
I wouldn't say they've done nothing - they collectively voted in the guy that now wants to conquer our country. From what I've seen the reaction from their blue voters has been very positive about being booed anyway.
 
Booing the USA anthem means you are booooing 340 million Americans that you don’t know and have done nothing to you.

Including Kyle Connor, Connor Hellybuck, Pionk, Samberg, Apples, Iafallo. Likely a few I’m forgetting.

Classless. Boo the Canadian anthem because you don’t like what your Canadian government is doing and has done for too many years now? Is that cool too?
Americans against dictatorship are in support of Canada booing their national anthem.
 
Booing the USA anthem means you are booooing 340 million Americans that you don’t know and have done nothing to you.

Including Kyle Connor, Connor Hellybuck, Pionk, Samberg, Apples, Iafallo. Likely a few I’m forgetting.

Classless. Boo the Canadian anthem because you don’t like what your Canadian government is doing and has done for too many years now? Is that cool too?
i’ll worry about offending tbem
when they stop threatening to annex my country and lying about the “dangerous Canadian border” and forcing a trade war with us

my government of my country is not Donald Trump or America nor is the anthem the star spangled banner.

Will I boo the nation who are unjustly attacking their longest closest ally…. yes.

if Americans are upset? they can do something about their and majority elected presidents actions.
 
i’ll worry about offending tbem
when they stop threatening to annex my country and lying about the “dangerous Canadian border” and forcing a trade war with us

my government of my country is not Donald Trump or America nor is the anthem the star spangled banner.

Will I boo the nation who are unjustly attacking their longest closest ally…. yes.

if Americans are upset? they can do something about their and majority elected presidents actions.

Most American's have bigger fish to fry than your concerns Ski'...

They can't feed their family, they may be close to homelessness, faced with a bursting housing bubble...

Canada....? American's just buy from at a discount...

Example A'... Oil...

Oil is a global commodity... it is sold by all other nations in the World as a global commodity...

But Canada... no we don't fight for Global Commodities...

Our Government kills the Northern Gateway and Energy East so we have no way to pivot from sell to other parts of the World... we must sell to the U.S. refinery capacity at a cut rate because we don't play, nor are we equipped aka refining capacity in Canada, to play the Global game...

A fun fact all pipelines from out West all go through the U.S. to Eastern Canada...

Another fun fact... Environment be damned... Most Eastern Canadian oil products by volume are delivered from nations other than Canada including a large volume from Russia... why is this happening if Canada matters, why is this happening if Canadians matter... ?

And no safe pipelines to move said oil... into a small numbers of monopolies domesticall;y decided upon out East by the usual suspects...

The spirits of Lac Megnatic and the surviving families want to know what you will do to bring back their son's, daughters, relations and friends...

No need for Examples B;.... D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K...L...M...N... O... P...

Give it enough time...it won't take much... but their will be no Equalization Tranfers from Alberta or Saskatchewan... they pay for most of the Health Care in Canada...

Your concerns Ski' should be well beyond Virtue Signaling ...
 
Most American's have bigger fish to fry than your concerns Ski'...

They can't feed their family, they may be close to homelessness, faced with a bursting housing bubble...

Canada....? American's just buy from at a discount...

Example A'... Oil...

Oil is a global commodity... it is sold by all other nations in the World as a global commodity...

But Canada... no we don't fight for Global Commodities...

Our Government kills the Northern Gateway and Energy East so we have no way to pivot from sell to other parts of the World... we must sell to the U.S. refinery capacity at a cut rate because we don't play, nor are we equipped aka refining capacity in Canada, to play the Global game...

A fun fact all pipelines from out West all go through the U.S. to Eastern Canada...

Another fun fact... Environment be damned... Most Eastern Canadian oil products by volume are delivered from nations other than Canada including a large volume from Russia... why is this happening if Canada matters, why is this happening if Canadians matter... ?

And no safe pipelines to move said oil... into a small numbers of monopolies domesticall;y decided upon out East by the usual suspects...

The spirits of Lac Megnatic and the surviving families want to know what you will do to bring back their son's, daughters, relations and friends...

No need for Examples B;.... D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K...L...M...N... O... P...

Give it enough time...it won't take much... but their will be no Equalization Tranfers from Alberta or Saskatchewan... they pay for most of the Health Care in Canada...

Your concerns Ski' should be well beyond Virtue Signaling ...
Are you saying that we are to blame John...............no way............. its easier to blame others
 

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