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Didn't care who won this series but gutted for Scheifele that he had to be in the penalty box when they scored. Was just hoping that penalty would killed. Hope he doesn't beat himself up for that too much with all he's going through already.
I don’t think the play leading to the penalty was on him. So I don’t think he should best himself up. He had to take the penalty.
 
If you're going to argue about the Canes being fresh then I can make the argument of them facing next to no adversity in the playoffs. Every other team left has faced adversity and are still standing, the Canes had 2 lollipop matchups and won them. Oilers were down 2-0 and down in Game 3 and won 4 straight to win a series, the Stars with one of the best game 7 comebacks in NHL history, the Leafs/Panthers going through a game 7 tonight before the ECF.
 
Carolina is top of the charts in all basic categories thus far in the playoffs. CF%, SF%, GF% xGF%.

Blame it on their opponents? Maybe a little, but this is their regular season M.O. as well.

The question with Carolina has always been their goal tending and thus far Anderson is playing great.

And yet the Devils were better than them 5v5 in goal scoring, teams with legit talent will eat them alive. The Capitals are nothing close to what they'll see in the Stars/Oilers/Leafs/Panthers. The Capitals up front were shooting benders on steroids, that's not sustainable in the playoffs
 
If you're going to argue about the Canes being fresh then I can make the argument of them facing next to no adversity in the playoffs. Every other team left has faced adversity and are still standing, the Canes had 2 lollipop matchups and won them. Oilers were down 2-0 and down in Game 3 and won 4 straight to win a series, the Stars with one of the best game 7 comebacks in NHL history, the Leafs/Panthers going through a game 7 tonight before the ECF.

I think getting through two rounds quickly and healthy is more important. I'm not saying Carolina is going to win because of it but I don't think it's hurts them.

It's something we've talked about with the Rangers teams during the Henrik years that they would go 6-7 games for the first few rounds and burn out because of it.

I would have to look at every year for other teams but it definitely helped us getting the first 2 rounds done early.

We played 10 games total in rounds 1 and 2 for every cup year.

03 they played 5 games in rounds 1 and 2

00 they played 4 games in round 1 and 6 in round 2.

95 they played 5 games in rounds 1 and 2.

The years we lost in the finals they played more than 10 games total in rounds 1 and 2...

12 they played 7 games in round 1 and 5 games in round 2 for 12 total games

01 they played 6 games in round 1 and 7 in round 2 for 13 total games
 
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And yet the Devils were better than them 5v5 in goal scoring, teams with legit talent will eat them alive. The Capitals are nothing close to what they'll see in the Stars/Oilers/Leafs/Panthers. The Capitals up front were shooting benders on steroids, that's not sustainable in the playoffs
Yet they kicked our ass in shots 5v5, dominated on special teams and won the series in 5.

Pointing to 5v5 goals in the face of all that doesn't seem like a great argument.

Not sure why the Capitals are not as good as, if not better then the Stars, who as I note above look to be getting outplayed in these playoffs but have survived via goal tending and Rantanen posting historic numbers, which I'm guessing is not sustainable.
 
The Devils were the worst team in the playoffs, both record wise and their play. Considering they got a lot of points early when healthy, then they just collapsed and got conveyor belted into April.
 
Yet they kicked our ass in shots 5v5, dominated on special teams and won the series in 5.

Pointing to 5v5 goals in the face of all that doesn't seem like a great argument.

Not sure why the Capitals are not as good as, if not better then the Stars, who as I note above look to be getting outplayed in these playoffs but have survived via goal tending and Rantanen posting historic numbers, which I'm guessing is not sustainable.

Really? The Stars top to bottom have a better roster than Washington, how is this even an argument? I like the Capitals more than most here but this is laughable to even argue.

Yes because that series going to the complete opposite of what everyone thought it would be is a rational for why the Canes are somehow god tier. You guys are just doing the same bullshit that you do with the Rags every spring with copium to why they'll win the Cup so when it doesn't happen, you can laugh at said team. Carolina is good but they're going to be the worst remaining team left in the Conference Final.
 
I think getting through two rounds quickly and healthy is more important. I'm not saying Carolina is going to win because of it but I don't think it's hurts them.

It's something we've talked about with the Rangers teams during the Henrik years that they would go 6-7 games for the first few rounds and burn out because of it.

I would have to look at every year for other teams but it definitely helped us getting the first 2 rounds done early.

We played 10 games total in rounds 1 and 2 for every cup year.

03 they played 5 games in rounds 1 and 2

00 they played 4 games in round 1 and 6 in round 2.

95 they played 5 games in rounds 1 and 2.

The years we lost in the finals they played more than 10 games total in rounds 1 and 2...

12 they played 7 games in round 1 and 5 games in round 2 for 12 total games

01 they played 6 games in round 1 and 7 in round 2 for 13 total games

Florida won the Cup the year they played more games the first 3 rounds the past 2 years. Also comparing the physical game from the Devils cup years to now isn't even applicable.
 
Yet they kicked our ass in shots 5v5, dominated on special teams and won the series in 5.

Pointing to 5v5 goals in the face of all that doesn't seem like a great argument.

Not sure why the Capitals are not as good as, if not better then the Stars, who as I note above look to be getting outplayed in these playoffs but have survived via goal tending and Rantanen posting historic numbers, which I'm guessing is not sustainable.

Meh. Typical Canes play. Lots of mediocre shots. The high danger stuff was closer. If that’s the best the Canes can do against a borderline AHL lineup color me unimpressed. A healthy NJ lineup beats them in my view. Healthy Hughes brothers are the two most dynamic players in the series and a full lineup on defense would have slowed the Canes more. Fragile Freddy was good but of course got hurt. NJ didn’t get pushed around and frankly I think the Canes are soft. Looking at this version of thr NJ lineup as any sort of benchmark is misplaced as I see it. Not saying you are wrong just that I saw it differently
 
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Florida won the Cup the year they played more games the first 3 rounds the past 2 years. Also comparing the physical game from the Devils cup years to now isn't even applicable.

Florida won in 5 in round 1 and 6 in round 2 and looking at the past bunch of years seems like every cup winner got the first two rounds done in 11 games or less and seems like it's more beneficial than going 6+ in both the first two rounds. There's always going to be exceptions but just browsing that it does look like getting rest through those first two rounds is key.

Look at us with the 2023 7 game series with the Rangers too. They burnt out doing that come back and long series. Carolina still might have beat us if we finished the Rangers in 5 but the adversity of going down 2-0 and winning in 7 didn't help us beat Carolina either.
 
Florida won in 5 in round 1 and 6 in round 2 and looking at the past bunch of years seems like every cup winner got the first two rounds done in 11 games or less and seems like it's more beneficial than going 6+ in both the first two rounds. There's always going to be exceptions but just browsing that it does look like getting rest through those first two rounds is key.

Look at us with the 2023 7 game series with the Rangers too. They burnt out doing that come back and long series. Carolina still might have beat us if we finished the Rangers in 5 but the adversity of going down 2-0 and winning in 7 didn't help us beat Carolina either.

That's the point...., it's not a set in stone thing. No one's arguing it's beneficial or not, of course it is. But getting rest could also be a detriment where teams are playing nightly versus the Canes having to get their legs again in series at the start.

The Devils weren't winning that series regardless, Carolina is a house of horrors for them + they weren't going to get saves from Vitek/Akira with how Carolina plays + Lindy's a moron keeping Graves as long as he did for Luke.
 
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And yet the Devils were better than them 5v5 in goal scoring, teams with legit talent will eat them alive. The Capitals are nothing close to what they'll see in the Stars/Oilers/Leafs/Panthers. The Capitals up front were shooting benders on steroids, that's not sustainable in the playoffs

I'm actually not all that convinced the Leafs or Panthers are all that much better. They will be a big step up from the first 2 opponents though for sure. I haven't been keeping up with the Leafs status but if Stolarz can come back, that would definitely make them huge favorites imo, but without him? eh

As for the Panthers, it will really depend on which Bob they get. Aside from the goalies, I'd agree the Canes have no chance, but we've seen ourselves how bad goaltending can just destroy your chances
 
I'm actually not all that convinced the Leafs or Panthers are all that much better. They will be a big step up from the first 2 opponents though for sure. I haven't been keeping up with the Leafs status but if Stolarz can come back, that would definitely make them huge favorites imo, but without him? eh

As for the Panthers, it will really depend on which Bob they get. Aside from the goalies, I'd agree the Canes have no chance, but we've seen ourselves how bad goaltending can just destroy your chances

Woll is better than Stolarz, not sure why this is an argument
 
Another thing to take into consideration with the remaining teams that are actually good is the home ice advantage. Anyone can admit that the Canes are top tier on their home ice, but they are really bad on the road. These other teams probably take advantage of it. Too lazy to see who exactly has home ice advantage, but for sure probably both west teams do
 

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