OOT scoreboard 2025 playoff edition

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Florida sure, but I'm not sure they get through two more rounds this year unless Thachuk has new bionic parts attached. A healthy Dallas I suppose though they did finish third in their own division. Edmonton, no they're not a great team - they're a very good team with a legendary player, another great player and good enough role players around them to potentially win with questionable goaltending.

Jets and Leafs are probably not going to win a Cup this year either fwiw, I don't know if I consider the Leafs great anyway, they're in the hall of the very good. The Jets have been a regular season paper tiger a la the Caps this year. I laugh at anyone considering Carolina a great team now when before the playoffs they were considered a decent team with a weak goalie (now an early favorite for the Smythe) and they've had a very kind draw through two rounds.

Well this is beyond wrong, they're one of the more stacked teams in the league. Of course, they have two of the best players in the league but so do the Avs and the Avs have been worse than the Oilers results besides when they had the best roster of the salary cap era. They made the West Final without their 1D in Ekholm, have gotten depth scoring this year from guys like Henrique, got a series winner from Kasperi f***ing Kapanen, etc.

What does Tkachuk having to be hurt have to do with how good Florida is? This just feels like a woe is me post like people do here when the Rangers are still somehow in to undermine them yearly instead we're now doing it for the Canes. If the Canes win the cup, they'd be full deserving of it with the other teams left regardless of how much of layups the mash unit Devils and Capitals were the first 2 rounds.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Dallas might be the only team I see beating Carolina at this point because of the Rantanen factor tbh but it would be the most annoying troll of all if they somehow did beat the Stars, it kinda feels like they've been touched by the hockey gods again just like in 2006 when they got to beat a Sabres team with no healthy defense left in Game 7, then a Cinderella Oilers team playing their third-string goalie in the Finals also in Game 7.

Of course if Freddie gets injured again then they're probably boned but he only has to make it through another ten games or so.

Lol the Oilers would mangle the Canes in a series, stop it.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I highly doubt it. We won one game. The series wasn't even close. Just because it was a little more competitive than the fraud caps series doesn't mean we would have won it with Jack. I do think it would have been closer though. Maybe we get two wins.

What? Lol

Game 2 was a 3-1 game that they won because of our 0-15 powerplay not coming through and literally being a NET NEGATIVE in the series.

Game 4 was 3-0 at the start of the second and then became 3-2 late 2nd for the rest of the game until Markstrom gave up a bad goal with 5 mins left and then empty net, that game was closer than the score showed. And again the Devils powerplay had chances to tie it and failed

Game 5, they had a 3-0 lead and just blew it because of Markstrom decided to shit his pants + their special teams failed them (shocker)

Only game they didn't belong on the ice was Game 1

Like I feel you guys are forgetting how good Jack simply is, our powerplay is probably scoring at a 15-20% clip with him in this series. They outscored Carolina 5v5 with utter dogshit, that alone tells me that they probably win that series their superstar 1C who's shown he can play against Carolina in the playoffs before

 

[njdevils1982]

Where have you gone Mitch Marner, where have you gone?

where have you gone mitch marner, leafs nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo, woo woo

 

[Mgd31]

What? Lol

Game 2 was a 3-1 game that they won because of our 0-15 powerplay not coming through and literally being a NET NEGATIVE in the series.

Game 4 was 3-0 at the start of the second and then became 3-2 late 2nd for the rest of the game until Markstrom gave up a bad goal with 5 mins left and then empty net, that game was closer than the score showed. And again the Devils powerplay had chances to tie it and failed

Game 5, they had a 3-0 lead and just blew it because of Markstrom decided to shit his pants + their special teams failed them (shocker)

Only game they didn't belong on the ice was Game 1

Like I feel you guys are forgetting how good Jack simply is, our powerplay is probably scoring at a 15-20% clip with him in this series. They outscored Carolina 5v5 with utter dogshit, that alone tells me that they probably win that series their superstar 1C who's shown he can play against Carolina in the playoffs before

Yea I mean the sole fact that Bratt is playing with Jack versus the carcasses of Haula and Mercer is a huge difference

 

[Desert Devil]

Assuming Florida and Dallas win, I can’t see the Canes beating any of the remaining teams. All of those teams can play heavy and quick. The only concern would be the Oilers and it’s strictly because of their goaltending. But they are still getting their best defensive defenseman back in Ekholm no? He should definitely be back for the finals if they can get past Dallas.


I love Jack as much as anyone but I don’t think we can realistically say we would have beat them for sure if we had him for the series. It definitely would have been a better series but we were certainly no guarantee to win that series even fully healthy. Canes are our kryptonite it seems.

I also think we should be careful assuming we can breeze through to the ECF next year. I think that’s discounting a lot of factors we have no idea about. Sure, we will get better. But there’s no doubt other teams will too and we will still have to slay this Canes monster if we ever expect to go far. Our best shot would be to win the division and hope Carolina finishes 2 or 3 and is ousted by the other metro team.

 

[guitarguyvic]

Dallas might be the only team I see beating Carolina at this point because of the Rantanen factor tbh but it would be the most annoying troll of all if they somehow did beat the Stars, it kinda feels like they've been touched by the hockey gods again just like in 2006 when they got to beat a Sabres team with no healthy defense left in Game 7, then a Cinderella Oilers team playing their third-string goalie in the Finals also in Game 7.

Of course if Freddie gets injured again then they're probably boned but he only has to make it through another ten games or so.

If Edmonton makes it there’s no way McDavid is coming that close to the cup and letting it slip away for the second year in a row, especially against Carolina of all teams.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Yea I mean the sole fact that Bratt is playing with Jack versus the carcasses of Haula and Mercer is a huge difference

Yup, Nico-Meier and Jack-Bratt is a masssssssssssssssive difference compared to...what they had. It's not just Jack himself that would've made a huge difference, but the pairings itself would've had a completely different impact

 

[My3Sons]

Yup, Nico-Meier and Jack-Bratt is a masssssssssssssssive difference compared to...what they had. It's not just Jack himself that would've made a huge difference, but the pairings itself would've had a completely different impact

And a fully healthy defense also changes the calculus

 

[NJDevs26]

What? Lol

Game 2 was a 3-1 game that they won because of our 0-15 powerplay not coming through and literally being a NET NEGATIVE in the series.

Game 4 was 3-0 at the start of the second and then became 3-2 late 2nd for the rest of the game until Markstrom gave up a bad goal with 5 mins left and then empty net, that game was closer than the score showed. And again the Devils powerplay had chances to tie it and failed

Game 5, they had a 3-0 lead and just blew it because of Markstrom decided to shit his pants + their special teams failed them (shocker)

Only game they didn't belong on the ice was Game 1

Like I feel you guys are forgetting how good Jack simply is, our powerplay is probably scoring at a 15-20% clip with him in this series. They outscored Carolina 5v5 with utter dogshit, that alone tells me that they probably win that series their superstar 1C who's shown he can play against Carolina in the playoffs before

We can all say the series would have been better and it probably would have been but when it comes to injuries the main reason we had a chance in the last two games is also Fragile Freddie falling on the ice in Game 4 - and a better Devils team also got smoked by them two years ago. And in some ways it's easier to get guys to play when there's no pressure and you're the underdog (witness: the difference between the 2022-23 seasons and most of the last two years, hell even Carolina this year's been a bit more under the radar compared to other seasons).

 

[Bleedred]

There were a lot of people (not me) who thought Washington would beat Carolina, so I absolutely wouldn’t count them out of winning the cup yet.

I’d probably pick Edmonton and Dallas over them. Not Winnipeg. I think I’d pick Florida over them, but absolutely not Toronto. Although Toronto could beat them if they get past Florida I guess.

The Caps were frauds all year long, which is why I was surprised anyone would count on their fake asses to take down Carolina.

I did think they’d score more on Freddie than we did, but they somehow managed to look even worse than the Devils skeleton crew at pretty much everything.

 

[Bleedred]

I’m firmly back on the “Oilers will win one of the next three cups” drum that I was banging before last season. I still think they win one of the next two.

I did pick them to lose to LA in round one this time. Between Skinner Skinnering and them looking a bit weaker and being due to be taken down by LA, I thought they’d go out to LA this time.

I don’t trust Skinner to not start Skinnering again, but they could go back to Pickard by then if he’s available.

I just hope they don’t give Skinner the Daccord/Blackwood/Lankinen/Hill extension after this year. And they better at least make sure they win the cup this year if they do it, as I don’t like their chances of continuing these long playoff runs with Skinner.

Much like the little success Vegas is having with Adin Hill after the lone cup run with him.

 

[My3Sons]

We can all say the series would have been better and it probably would have been but when it comes to injuries the main reason we had a chance in the last two games is also Fragile Freddie falling on the ice in Game 4 - and a better Devils team also got smoked by them two years ago. And in some ways it's easier to get guys to play when there's no pressure and you're the underdog (witness: the difference between the 2022-23 seasons and most of the last two years, hell even Carolina this year's been a bit more under the radar compared to other seasons).

The healthy NJ team spilt the season series with them. I think at worst they lose in 7 games but I think it’s more likely NJ wins. Just my thought: Carolina did not push NJ around this time and if NJ isn’t having to run Hischier and Doumilin out every other shift the team woul not have run out of gas the way they did in multiple games.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I legit dont understand how you cant see how different the series would have been if we were healthy?

Our PK was bleeding goals it never did all year because we were forced to play Dmen either out of position or guys like Dougie who should never be taking PK shifts at all.

Our PP would no go 0 for a thousand with Jack and Luke on it. Just isnt going to happen.

And that's just special teams. If we actually were able to reunite Siegs-Kovy, legitimately one of the best shutdown D pairs in the league, that would only tip 5v5 play further in our favor.

It also shouldn't need to be explained how fundamentally different a lineup we would have had with Jack playing center in our top 6 vs f***ing Mercer or Glass.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The healthy NJ team spilt the season series with them. I think at worst they lose in 7 games but I think it’s more likely NJ wins. Just my thought: Carolina did not push NJ around this time and if NJ isn’t having to run Hischier and Doumilin out every other shift the team woul not have run out of gas the way they did in multiple games.

That was also a better Carolina team then what we ended up playing since they still had Necas in December.

 

[MadDevil]

I legit dont understand how you cant see how different the series would have been if we were healthy?

Our PK was bleeding goals it never did all year because we were forced to play Dmen either out of position or guys like Dougie who should never be taking PK shifts at all.

Our PP would no go 0 for a thousand with Jack and Luke on it. Just isnt going to happen.

And that's just special teams. If we actually were able to reunite Siegs-Kovy, legitimately one of the best shutdown D pairs in the league, that would only tip 5v5 play further in our favor.

It also shouldn't need to be explained how fundamentally different a lineup we would have had with Jack playing center in our top 6 vs f***ing Mercer or Glass.

It would have been a more even series, but this also assumes Carolina plays the same way they did. Maybe a healthy Jack would have made them take the Devils more seriously and they would have played differently. I still wonder how much of that first round was them just not keeping their foot on the gas like they may have against a better opponent.

I think even with healthy Hughes brothers we'd have probably lost, but at least it wouldn't have felt as inevitable as it did.

 

[Dylan9z9]

Well this is beyond wrong, they're one of the more stacked teams in the league. Of course, they have two of the best players in the league but so do the Avs and the Avs have been worse than the Oilers results besides when they had the best roster of the salary cap era. They made the West Final without their 1D in Ekholm, have gotten depth scoring this year from guys like Henrique, got a series winner from Kasperi f***ing Kapanen, etc.

What does Tkachuk having to be hurt have to do with how good Florida is? This just feels like a woe is me post like people do here when the Rangers are still somehow in to undermine them yearly instead we're now doing it for the Canes. If the Canes win the cup, they'd be full deserving of it with the other teams left regardless of how much of layups the mash unit Devils and Capitals were the first 2 rounds.

"Deserves have nothing to do with it" (UNFORGIVEN) hate these bunch of imposter's they are going down

 

[Cheddabombs]

Unless it's a team is really want out, I'll always root for a game 7. Nothing better in hockey. I think whoever scores first wins this one

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

We can all say the series would have been better and it probably would have been but when it comes to injuries the main reason we had a chance in the last two games is also Fragile Freddie falling on the ice in Game 4 - and a better Devils team also got smoked by them two years ago. And in some ways it's easier to get guys to play when there's no pressure and you're the underdog (witness: the difference between the 2022-23 seasons and most of the last two years, hell even Carolina this year's been a bit more under the radar compared to other seasons).

The Canes were also way better in 2022-2023 too though, lmao. And yes, Freddy being ass is how you beat Carolina, the Rags won 2 series off of it but god forbid this Devils team gets 2 bad Freddy games lol.

 

[Bleedred]

The Canes were also way better in 2022-2023 too though, lmao. And yes, Freddy being ass is how you beat Carolina, the Rags won 2 series off of it but god forbid this Devils team gets 2 bad Freddy games lol.

That was Raanta the Rangers beat in 2022. Andersen was injured for that series. Big surprise.

Raanta was horrific in game 6 or whatever that game was at MSG. I guess it was game 6 I think the Canes could have won the series with a win. He allowed two brutal softies to put them down 2-0 in the 1st period.

Raanta also gave up a softy early in game 7 and was in the hospital injured before the game was even over.

I remember shitting diarrhea all over Raanta for that series, but was told he wasn’t bad because he was a .920% (or something in that series) and it was just because Igor was a .950% or something.

 

[Bleedred]

The Panthers might be sorry for not scoring on one of those early power plays.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

That was Raanta the Rangers beat in 2022. Andersen was injured for that series. Big surprise.

Raanta was horrific in game 6 or whatever that game was at MSG. I guess it was game 6 I think the Canes could have won the series with a win. He allowed two brutal softies to put them down 2-0 in the 1st period.

Raanta also gave up a softy early in game 7 and was in the hospital injured before the game was even over.

I remember shitting diarrhea all over Raanta for that series, but was told he wasn’t bad because he was a .920% (or something in that series) and it was just because Igor was a .950% or something.

He was also injured last year, that was the point of the post. Other teams take advantage of injuries and stuff, no one bats an eye to it but if the Devils do it, it's some detriment towards them lol

 

[Dylan9z9]

I’m firmly back on the “Oilers will win one of the next three cups” drum that I was banging before last season. I still think they win one of the next two.

I did pick them to lose to LA in round one this time. Between Skinner Skinnering and them looking a bit weaker and being due to be taken down by LA, I thought they’d go out to LA this time.

I don’t trust Skinner to not start Skinnering again, but they could go back to Pickard by then if he’s available.

I just hope they don’t give Skinner the Daccord/Blackwood/Lankinen/Hill extension after this year. And they better at least make sure they win the cup this year if they do it, as I don’t like their chances of continuing these long playoff runs with Skinner.

Much like the little success Vegas is having with Adin Hill after the lone cup run with him.

Well I said the Oilers would win a cup in the future since 1993 so if they win ... I told you so

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I think Marner had a good first after the tough game 5. Set up 2 grade A's and Matthews got nothing on the shot (@Triumph looks like you were right) and Knies missed a tap in

 

[Mgd31]

Panthers taking over now. Leafs have no shots halfway through the 2nd