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Last night they didn't even hit 13K for their game, if they were struggling with say a 5-7-2 record, that would make sense, but when you got a team with one of the best starts ever in the NHL, it's kinda nuts.
Maybe they’re paranoid Bettman moves them to Arizona again now that the market’s finally open
 

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Last night they didn't even hit 13K for their game, if they were struggling with say a 5-7-2 record, that would make sense, but when you got a team with one of the best starts ever in the NHL, it's kinda nuts.

It doesn't matter what their record is if people are struggling financially, it's a small city too so the pool of people who can go to begin with is smaller and then the pool of people who can afford to go is even smaller.

Ticket prices are just too expensive, that goes for league wide too but god forbid the billionaire owners and millionaire players sacrifice taking a bit less money to help people in the cities and states that are the reason they get that much money to begin with.

I know it's a "business" but live sports should be accessible to all, especially since most of these stadiums that they play in benefit from being built by tax payer money or get other tax breaks that none of us regular schmucks ever see in our lifetimes.

They get more ad revenue than ever before, ads on helmets, ads on jerseys now, digital ads on TV, betting shit up the wazoo and everything is sponsored, entrances, giveaways, power plays, penalty kills but do the fans see any benefit from that in terms of making things more affordable? Nope, everyone's just a greedy f*** head.

Sorry I'm done ranting now, this topic gets me fired up lol
 
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It doesn't matter what their record is if people are struggling financially, it's a small city too so the pool of people who can go to begin with is smaller and then the pool of people who can afford to go is even smaller.

Ticket prices are just too expensive, that goes for league wide too but god forbid the billionaire owners and millionaire players sacrifice taking a bit less money to help people in the cities and states that are the reason they get that much money to begin with.

I know it's a "business" but live sports should be accessible to all, especially since most of these stadiums that they play in benefit from being built by tax payer money or get other tax breaks that none of us regular schmucks ever see in our lifetimes.

They get more ad revenue than ever before, ads on helmets, ads on jerseys now, digital ads on TV, betting shit up the wazoo and everything is sponsored, entrances, giveaways, power plays, penalty kills but do the fans see any benefit from that in terms of making things more affordable? Nope, everyone's just a greedy f*** head.

Sorry I'm done ranting now, this topic gets me fired up lol
I'm not looking for a fight, I'm just sharing my perspective that the best team in the league isn't even coming close to selling out the house, the Devils struggled to sell tickets during the cup years but there were other factors such as playing in a metro area that has about a dozen other pro sports teams, terrible location and plus a GM who refused to market the team like we see now.
 

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I'm not looking for a fight, I'm just sharing my perspective that the best team in the league isn't even coming close to selling out the house, the Devils struggled to sell tickets during the cup years but there were other factors such as playing in a metro area that has about a dozen other pro sports teams, terrible location and plus a GM who refused to market the team like we see now.

I'm not fighting with you either, just saying stuff is unaffordable for a lot of people still. Winnipeg is more a blue collar town than a lot of NHL cities too and they were hit hard during the pandemic and the Canadian dollar is doing awful right now.

People up there are struggling to afford groceries and make payments on important bills, that's the reason people are not going and probably just watching from home, it's just unattainable for people right now.

Look at these face value prices for tickets vs the Blues on a Tuesday night, 81 Canadian dollars just to get into the building, these are ridiculous...

 

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Last night they didn't even hit 13K for their game, if they were struggling with say a 5-7-2 record, that would make sense, but when you got a team with one of the best starts ever in the NHL, it's kinda nuts.

I watched the end of the game and was making a point to look at the seats…it didn’t really look that empty though. Hell, the Prudential Center usually looks emptier even when it’s a sell out.

Obviously the Fire and Ice lounges don’t really help the optics. It’s a really cool concept and I understand why they did it, but it makes the arena look a lot more empty than it really is because so many people just stay up there. I also think the seat colors make the empties stick out even more.
 
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I'm not fighting with you either, just saying stuff is unaffordable for a lot of people still. Winnipeg is more a blue collar town than a lot of NHL cities too and they were hit hard during the pandemic and the Canadian dollar is doing awful right now.

People up there are struggling to afford groceries and make payments on important bills, that's the reason people are not going and probably just watching from home, it's just unattainable for people right now.

Look at these face value prices for tickets vs the Blues on a Tuesday night, 81 Canadian dollars just to get into the building, these are ridiculous...


Jets also have a low corporate turnout. I’d have to double check but it’s like 15% which is among the leagues lowest. True North needs to do better there. Would help a lot to have more businesses buying season tickets
 

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I watched the end of the game and was making a point to look at the seats…it didn’t really look that empty though. Hell, the Prudential Center usually looks emptier even when it’s a sell out.

Obviously the Fire and Ice lounges don’t really help the optics. It’s a really cool concept and I understand why they did it, but it makes the arena look a lot more empty than it really is because so many people just stay up there. I also think the seat colors make the empties stick out even more.

They should have never put those sections on the side the camera faces behind the benches, it should have all been on the side of the penalty box. That would have eliminated seeing empty seats because people are eating at the buffets instead of watching the game.
 

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Last night they didn't even hit 13K for their game, if they were struggling with say a 5-7-2 record, that would make sense, but when you got a team with one of the best starts ever in the NHL, it's kinda nuts.
Attendance lags behind performance. Most ticket sales are season ticket, partial plans or well in advance sale. A hot start isn’t going to boost attendance (like it didn’t in 22-23 here when the team hit the streak). Especially if there is distrust in management you get a “let’s wait and see if it is real” response.

The Jets as a team the last few years have gone back and forth on “are the a good team or just a middle of the row team that needs to hit the reset after underwhelming playoffs.” There was a sense the team was going to blow up two years ago only for them not to do that. Last year was a good year, but they underwhelmed in the playoffs again. They had good starts but faded down the stretch the last two seasons so there probably is some skepticism in the market.

Also, I don’t know what is going on economically in the city. It’s a small midwestern Canadian market so I imagine it got hit hard by inflation.

With the prices for sports teams booming they aren’t in danger. Values have skyrocketed and costs are controlled.

Too much also gets made of attendance. I remember in college doing a sports business study abroad in England and visiting a Premier League team (one of the top ones). They said they rather have attendance be at 90% than fully sold out because if it’s fully sold out that means they underpriced the tickets.
 
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They should have never put those sections on the side the camera faces behind the benches, it should have all been on the side of the penalty box. That would have eliminated seeing empty seats because people are eating at the buffets instead of watching the game.

There’s a club on penalty box side.

In fact there’s two clubs because the Fire Lounge is there plus there’s an entrance to the fancier premium lounge at ice level.
 

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There’s a club on penalty box side.

In fact there’s two clubs because the Fire Lounge is there plus there’s an entrance to the fancier premium lounge at ice level.

I know, I'm saying they should have put all the clubs only on the penalty box side, 7 to 9 shouldn't have been clubs with food, 17 and 21 should have been clubs instead if they wanted more club sections with food buffets.

That way when you tune into a game people who are sitting in 7-9 are actually in their seats watching the game instead of those looking empty half the time on TV.

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