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OOT Scoreboard 2024-25 season - part II

ZachaFlockaFlame said:
They've had 3 coaches that their core has quit on, Jon Cooper is not going there. Sure Sullivan might but maybe even he might be hesitant after seeing Quinn/Gallant/Lavi not being able to get through that core. The coach was/is never their problem. It's their core, it was evident when they lost to us in 2023. Also Cooper/Sullivan will get better job offers than NYR
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I honestly think Gallant sucks as coach and kind of was a problem. He never lasts 3 years anywhere.

Lavi is just whatever. I agree he’s really not a problem.

Quinn was a joke head coach, both there and San Jose, but he was only there because of the “Retool”. In fact, he’s maybe one of two head coaches they’ve had in decades who wasn’t a big name and only on his first NHL head coaching job. The other was Bryan Trottier back in 2002 and he didn’t last even an entire season. He was a huge name, just not as a head coach.

The Rangers have a history of always going for the biggest name head coach they can get. And that’s why Knoblauch is in the Edmonton right now and not with them.
 
ZachaFlockaFlame said:
They've had 3 coaches that their core has quit on, Jon Cooper is not going there. Sure Sullivan might but maybe even he might be hesitant after seeing Quinn/Gallant/Lavi not being able to get through that core. The coach was/is never their problem. It's their core, it was evident when they lost to us in 2023. Also Cooper/Sullivan will get better job offers than NYR
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What big jobs are coming open soon with teams more perennially win now than the Rangers? Maybe Edmonton if they flame out early? Toronto and us just changed coaches, Carolina just signed Brindy long term, maybe they see a West rebuilder with a younger big name like Bedard or Celebrini as more appealing long term but those teams still have a long way to go. Nashville may come open but they sure as **** aren’t a more appealing destination short or long term.
 
Bleedred said:
I honestly think Gallant sucks as coach and kind of was a problem. He never lasts 3 years anywhere.

Lavi is just whatever. I agree he’s really not a problem.

Quinn was a joke head coach, both there and San Jose, but he was only there because of the “Retool”. In fact, he’s maybe one of two head coaches they’ve had in decades who wasn’t a big name and only on his first NHL head coaching job. The other was Bryan Trottier back in 2002 and he didn’t last even an entire season. He was a huge name, just not as a head coach.

The Rangers have a history of always going for the biggest name head coach they can get. And that’s why Knoblauch is in the Edmonton right now and not with them.
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Gallant sucks, yes, but when your core has consistently ran through coaches like it's nothing then maybe it's time for some self evaluation that it's not the coach who can't get results. FWIW, Lavi and Gallant had them in Game 6's of the ECF where the core completely shut off and died. No coach worth anything is going there, they're going to have to do a teardown and rebuild it back up which neither Sullivan or Cooper would sign up for. Those two guys are going to go where teams are already built and are looking for the next step.

NJDevs26 said:
What big jobs are coming open soon with teams more perennially win now than the Rangers? Maybe Edmonton if they flame out early? Toronto and us just changed coaches, Carolina just signed Brindy long term, maybe they see a West rebuilder with a younger big name like Bedard or Celebrini as more appealing long term but those teams still have a long way to go. Nashville may come open but they sure as **** aren’t a more appealing destination short or long term.
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That core is beyond rotten, who cares. They're going to be behind the Canes/Devils for the next decade roster wise. Why can't Sullivan go to TB if Cooper leaves and Cooper out West to say like the Avs? There were rumblings that Bednar would get tossed after their slow start and it's clear their management isn't content with being a middling team. Just saying the Rangers for everything on this board is mind boggling and PTSD lol
 
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Yeah, Igor currently masks a lot of warts the Rangers have. They have been playing better but a lot of their wins lately was mainly Igor being a wall.

As far as standings watching goes. We still really only care about NYR and CBJ due to the playoff format. Metro 3 is still in Devils control.

Some upcoming help by Vegas and Dallas would be nice. Thats the next two opponents for Lumbus.
 
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Well any coach going there knows he IS going to have Igor for 7-8 years. You guys underestimate the appeal of knowing management will spend and be in it to win and a goalie that can make you a contender any year with a half decent team, not to mention the whole 'bright lights' appeal of the NYC Original Six job to begin with.

If anything, the best argument against the Ranger job is Drury and not the actual roster. Any coach with Sullivan or Cooper's track record is going to want final say or at least a voice in the room with personnel decisions, and I doubt that happens with the Rangers as long as Dolan lets Drury get away with bloody murder.
 
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