OOT Scoreboard 2021-22 Stanley Cup playoffs

[jkrdevil]

The Jack Adams is Andrew Burnette’s

 

[Bleedred]

I don’t think there’s a cult of Hynes anywhere and I don’t know how many say “great” about him.

Personally I’m just weirded out that people are angry at the guy still. Even if you thought he was a bad coach he wasn’t going to fire himself.

He seems like an ok coach. The general view of him around the league is he’s that he’s a good coach. The Preds had fallen apart under Laviolette, who can be successful but is also a toxic weirdo. I have no desire to dig deeper than that, so I don’t have a in-depth take on the guy. Our team under him was first hindered by a lack of talent and then by goalie catastrophes. I think he just lost the team in 2019-20.

The Adams? Sullivan was an early favorite for a nomination but the age of the roster plus the goalie issues caught up with the Pens and he faded too.

Rod Brind’Amour might get a nom but he just one it last year. Sutter, Brunette, Gallant and Bednar have been mentioned. Gallant won it in 2017-18.

Brian Sutter won it 1990-91 but that’s the only Sutter who has so I’m guessing Darryl wins it.

This is a reaction to some current and some not quite as current posts about him since we've recently come to sour on Ruff. There was just a post today citing something (I didn't click on the article) but it seemed to be about how Nashville players are backing him and think he's great. You could look at Hughes and Subban's comments about Ruff and say the same every time someone pokes fun at Ruff. Big whoop.

My views on Hynes, I don't like him. I think he's not a good head coach or at least I don't think he was a good head coach here, but he wasn't nearly the worst, like John MacLean, who was the absolute worst in the history of hockey. I don't think he did a good job here, but I don't think he did a terrible job either. And just because he wasn't great here in his first ever head coaching job in the league where he was in his early 40's the entire time, doesn't mean that he can't get better and become a very good NHL head coach somewhere down the line.

I can't say if he has or hasn't gotten better (remember when he was on the hot seat EARLY last season though? And Poile said he wanted to stick by him?) but as was pointed out in response to that discussion earlier today, it's easy to look like a good head coach when you got Saros playing 67 games (he played the most out of everyone in the league) and having a .919% or something, forgot exactly. Point being that Saros had one of the greatest seasons of all time (he really didn't, so don't lose me there) if you compare his season to any of the f***in jabronies that played here this year. If you look at Rittich's performance this year, it was right down there at Jon Gillies level, so if Saros was injured since say December and never came back this year? Hynes probably looks like a BAD head coach right now and Nashville fans are probably why he didn't get fired today.

And Hynes (just like Ruff currently) was not the first head coach in recent years to have a goalie problem here. Pete DeBoer kind of wasn't either, but Pete did it to himself by BARELY playing Schneider more in 13-14 than Brodeur.

Hynes also took over a team that had made the playoffs I think 5 or 6 years in a row, however long Lavi was there for. They were also just on the bubble when Hynes got hired there, so it's not like he took a floundering team that was sinking and completely turned the franchise around. They were 2.5 years removed from a Stanley Cup Finals appearance with largely the same cast of characters and just 1.5 years removed from a Presidents Trophy when Hynes took over. One of the posters that has made some snarky comments already was actually the same poster that mocked how people said Rittich sucked after the Preds won a stinkin game with Rittich a couple months ago. Also coincidentally the poster who always gives us the Wedgewood updates and how he made the playoffs. Rittich is a MISERABLY f***ING BAD GOALIE which was first pointed by yours truly several years ago, when I know at least one person here mentioned David Rittich as a goalie we should be interested in, which was back in 2019.

I always gave Hynes credit for one thing here. In 2018 when Schneider came back and was absolutely horrific, John Hynes STUCK with Keith Kinkaid and he NEEDED to do that because we only just barely made the playoffs by 2-3 points. Everything I've seen from Pete DeBoer and even Lindy Ruff because of the kinds of coaches they are, they would have stuck with Schneider, especially after Kinkaid lost a game or struggled and he did a couple times down the stretch in March of 2018. Those guys would have went right back to Schneider and we would have missed the playoffs. I watched DeBoer's STUPID goalie decisions over here, I saw enough of them in San Jose with Martin Jones and I saw enough of them in Vegas, although he slightly deviated from them with the Lehner stuff that was recently in the news. He also went with Clemmensen over Vokoun at one point in Florida. I've seen Ruff with his dumb shit with Blackwood this year. I'm still nervous that if we don't land a BONAFIDE ELITE GOALIE, Ruff will still go back to Blackwood and give him more rope than he should if Ruff comes back. We saw Ruff keep going back to Blackwood in December and January and even going so far as to say ''He was sick tonight, but he really wanted to play'' on one occasion.

Speaking of Laviolette, he's doing the same thing with Samsonov in Washington. Vanecek has been considerably better than Samsonov the last two years and Vanecek has struggled lately and he's been back to Samsonov. And they've won some games in spite of Samsonov too.

And one thing Hynes did on his way through the door into Nashville was he said ''Enough is enough'' with Rinne and didn't stick with him when he was playing horribly. He let Saros run with the job and he never looked back.

I'm MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE with John Hynes picking my starting goalie than DeBoer or Ruff.

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The Jack Adams is Andrew Burnette’s

I've said that since pretty early on that outside of Gallant, I think he's a STRONG favorite. I still think Gallant could get it, but with Shesterkin already having the Vezina locked up, I wonder how many instances there's been with the Jack Adams and Vezina going to the same team?

The Panthers won more games with Brunette than all but maybe 6 other teams won all year?

 

[Alex NJD]

Got 3 monitors and my TV all set up to watch the Mets plus all playoff games at once. Very excited right now

 

[Oneiro]

This is like watching another sport compared to what we’ve seen all year.

 

[Patrik26]

The award for the biggest jackass assistant to leave his jackass coach's staff and be an even bigger jackass should be named after Eric Mangini.

Ouch! Did you really have to disturb those long lost Jets fans memories?

 

[MauDevils]

This is like watching another sport compared to what we’ve seen all year.

I also forgot what buildings full of fans are like.

 

[MauDevils]

Clifford should get 5 and a suspension for that. Bullshit hit.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Clifford should get 5 and a suspension for that. Bullshit hit.

Yea that was so unnecessary

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Terrible hit by Clifford but honestly that's an edge I have not seen from Toronto in the playoffs. You need to play dirty like that in the playoffs, just not that obviously.

 

[Alex NJD]

Tampa PP taking a page out of our book right now

 

[Bleedred]

Clifford should get 5 and a suspension for that. Bullshit hit.

That could only help the Leafs in this series, if they suspended him. He’s brutal and way too slow. Still riding off a very old and dated reputation from nearly a decade ago with LA.

Tampa PP taking a page out of our book right now

That looked like the Recchi special. The only scoring chances on it were short handed chances from Toronto.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

You would expect Toronto to come out flying. It's a big win if Tampa can hold Toronto off the board.

The Carolina Boston game from what I saw looked to be a bit slower but better hockey overall.

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Oof, bad goal.

 

[Bleedred]

You would expect Toronto to come out flying. It's a big win if Tampa can hold Toronto off the board.

The Carolina Boston game from what I saw looked to be a bit slower but better hockey overall.

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Oof, bad goal.

It was certainly borderline for me. One angle he looked completely screened and another he looked like he tracked it and it just squeaked through him.

 

[MauDevils]

Tampa generated absolutely nothing. 5 shots in the entire period with 7 minutes of power play time?

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Is Niederreiter gunna demand a 9m dollar contract cuz I'd love him otherwise.

 

[Devs3cups]

Matthews is something else. Greatest goal scorer since Ovi.

 

[Goptor]

This is a reaction to some current and some not quite as current posts about him since we've recently come to sour on Ruff. There was just a post today citing something (I didn't click on the article) but it seemed to be about how Nashville players are backing him and think he's great. You could look at Hughes and Subban's comments about Ruff and say the same every time someone pokes fun at Ruff. Big whoop.

My views on Hynes, I don't like him. I think he's not a good head coach or at least I don't think he was a good head coach here, but he wasn't nearly the worst, like John MacLean, who was the absolute worst in the history of hockey. I don't think he did a good job here, but I don't think he did a terrible job either. And just because he wasn't great here in his first ever head coaching job in the league where he was in his early 40's the entire time, doesn't mean that he can't get better and become a very good NHL head coach somewhere down the line.

I can't say if he has or hasn't gotten better (remember when he was on the hot seat EARLY last season though? And Poile said he wanted to stick by him?) but as was pointed out in response to that discussion earlier today, it's easy to look like a good head coach when you got Saros playing 67 games (he played the most out of everyone in the league) and having a .919% or something, forgot exactly. Point being that Saros had one of the greatest seasons of all time (he really didn't, so don't lose me there) if you compare his season to any of the f***in jabronies that played here this year. If you look at Rittich's performance this year, it was right down there at Jon Gillies level, so if Saros was injured since say December and never came back this year? Hynes probably looks like a BAD head coach right now and Nashville fans are probably why he didn't get fired today.

And Hynes (just like Ruff currently) was not the first head coach in recent years to have a goalie problem here. Pete DeBoer kind of wasn't either, but Pete did it to himself by BARELY playing Schneider more in 13-14 than Brodeur.

Hynes also took over a team that had made the playoffs I think 5 or 6 years in a row, however long Lavi was there for. They were also just on the bubble when Hynes got hired there, so it's not like he took a floundering team that was sinking and completely turned the franchise around. They were 2.5 years removed from a Stanley Cup Finals appearance with largely the same cast of characters and just 1.5 years removed from a Presidents Trophy when Hynes took over. One of the posters that has made some snarky comments already was actually the same poster that mocked how people said Rittich sucked after the Preds won a stinkin game with Rittich a couple months ago. Also coincidentally the poster who always gives us the Wedgewood updates and how he made the playoffs. Rittich is a MISERABLY f***ING BAD GOALIE which was first pointed by yours truly several years ago, when I know at least one person here mentioned David Rittich as a goalie we should be interested in, which was back in 2019.

I always gave Hynes credit for one thing here. In 2018 when Schneider came back and was absolutely horrific, John Hynes STUCK with Keith Kinkaid and he NEEDED to do that because we only just barely made the playoffs by 2-3 points. Everything I've seen from Pete DeBoer and even Lindy Ruff because of the kinds of coaches they are, they would have stuck with Schneider, especially after Kinkaid lost a game or struggled and he did a couple times down the stretch in March of 2018. Those guys would have went right back to Schneider and we would have missed the playoffs. I watched DeBoer's STUPID goalie decisions over here, I saw enough of them in San Jose with Martin Jones and I saw enough of them in Vegas, although he slightly deviated from them with the Lehner stuff that was recently in the news. He also went with Clemmensen over Vokoun at one point in Florida. I've seen Ruff with his dumb shit with Blackwood this year. I'm still nervous that if we don't land a BONAFIDE ELITE GOALIE, Ruff will still go back to Blackwood and give him more rope than he should if Ruff comes back. We saw Ruff keep going back to Blackwood in December and January and even going so far as to say ''He was sick tonight, but he really wanted to play'' on one occasion.

Speaking of Laviolette, he's doing the same thing with Samsonov in Washington. Vanecek has been considerably better than Samsonov the last two years and Vanecek has struggled lately and he's been back to Samsonov. And they've won some games in spite of Samsonov too.

And one thing Hynes did on his way through the door into Nashville was he said ''Enough is enough'' with Rinne and didn't stick with him when he was playing horribly. He let Saros run with the job and he never looked back.

I'm MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE with John Hynes picking my starting goalie than DeBoer or Ruff.

Post automatically merged: May 2, 2022

I've said that since pretty early on that outside of Gallant, I think he's a STRONG favorite. I still think Gallant could get it, but with Shesterkin already having the Vezina locked up, I wonder how many instances there's been with the Jack Adams and Vezina going to the same team?

The Panthers won more games with Brunette than all but maybe 6 other teams won all year?

That was Hynes biggest asset as a coach. He said the right things to the media, the players, and the management. Up until the last season, he had the team the best prepared physically through training camp and then for the first 10 or so games of the season. He also didn't play veterans just because they were veterans. Everyone had an opportunity for a spot.

He should get credit for getting Duchene and Johansen motivated to play hockey again. I don't think many coaches would have been able to do that.

He just did not understand how systems work in NJ and because of this, was never able to make proper adjustments.

 

[VoidCreature]

Did we sneak Recchi onto the bench in Tampa? Because this Bolts powerplay looks exactly like ours.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Torontos making Tampa look like an AHL team.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Toronto just blitzing Tampa, but it's going to be really interesting to see if they can keep this pace up.

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The Carolina Boston game is a better brand of hockey IMO. Tampa looks sloppy and Toronto is on speed. I don't think either of these things will continue through this series.

 

[Hisch13r]

lol Where the f*** was Vasi going there? He looked like Hammond or Gillies sliding that far out of his net

 

[Oneiro]

Hahaha Trocheck.

 

[Dialamo]

Hahaha Trocheck.

That was a clever backhand bank shot!

 

[MadDevil]

My opinion on coaching has kind of always been that there are a few great coaches and a few truly awful coaches, with most coaches being somewhere in between and quite frankly not all that different. Hynes and Ruff are both in that last category. Which is why I'm not banking on a coaching change making a huge difference, because Ruff's replacement is likely going to be in that same category, just with different tendencies that will annoy us.

 

[OmNomNom]

leafs got tampa in their pocket, IMO

tampa was physical and it got nowhere