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Playing Kreider and not putting him on PP1 is a huge mistake. Play him where he excels.

Kaliyev if healthy should be in for Othmann. Othmann needs more time in the AHL as he is invisible.

Lastly I can't stand teams sitting on leads and thats what the Rangers seem to be doing. The only offense that they had in the 3rd was after the Sena tied it. To me thats terrible coaching.
 
One last thing, Shesterkin has cost us 3 or 4 points in the last week alone. Against the Caps and Leafs he faced something like 25 shots and 17. So spare me wah wah wah the shots against. Sometimes goalies face a lot of shots. When it's a few shots all you hear about is how he needs to face more shots to get in the game.

Edit: This is a reasonable take, no caps, cursing, or exclamaltion points. This guy is a f***ing liability like I've never seen before.
Stop. Paying. Goalies.
 
Again, the same issues that led to Laviolette being fired in Washington are the same exact issues arising here. This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone, especially when they watch this team play hockey. Yes, part of the blame is on the players, but it’s also the structure within which they’re asked to play.

There’s just absolutely zero creativity on offense, and they’re genuinely one of the easiest teams to defend against at 5v5. The perimeter cycling and low-percentage point shots aren’t scaring anyone, especially when they dont make any effort to move bodies between the circles. Laviolette can talk all he wants about having the defensemen push the pace and playing downhill, but it’s all just lip service.

When you’re that easy to defend against, it’s easier for the other team to break out in transition and outnumber you through the neutral zone. I’d ask the Rangers if they know what that means, but this organization hasn’t cared about or tried defending off the rush since 2014-15. Constantly losing transition battles leads to sustained shifts against in the d-zone and possession against you. That leads to chipping out the puck and changing rather than getting a chance to forecheck and win loose puck battles.

It’s just another year of a subpar 5v5 Rangers team relying on goaltending and special teams. We all know how this story ends.
This is not specific to Lavvy. If memory serves correctly, the only coach they weren't a perimeter team under was Torts. They've played like this since JJ was here: no one shoots the puck....they're always making that unnecessary extra pass (which is usually off the mark), they always avoid the crease area as if it were Chernobyl (I sometimes think they don't know what a rebound is).....they hold the puck too long at the points (whereby shots don't get thru -- most are blocked at blueline leading to odd man rushes).

As for defense -- what defense? I didn't know there was a defensive scheme entitled "helter skelter."

And when did allowing ANYONE near your goalie become the norm?
 
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I think I'm more annoyed with the fact that I don't remember the last time I saw an iteration of this team that really dictated the pace of play.

This was by far the most important game this team has played up to this point of the season and they got a vote of confidence from their GM who probably lessened his returns by asking for players who could help right now in some moves to try to keep things afloat even though he was stripping some parts off the roster.

This is the effort you come out with?

Ready to just let this iteration of the team die.

For a team that won a lot of games last year and is the race this year, they are an astoundingly bad fundamental hockey team.

I don't know what they want their identity to be.

It's as if they want to be a rush based attack team with almost no puck moving defensemen, a few giant oafs (mind you, I thought Soucy was fine today and if thats what they get out of him, I'd be thrilled if it were in a 3rd pair role but we know where this is going) while simultaneously plugging in a few grindy forwards in an effort to try to be imposing.

I've heard things like "meat and potatoes" and "tougher to play against" and okay, they've added some size and snarl and are certainly better now than they were a few months ago.

But the above still applies. They haven't really committed to a direction and it leads to being sort of good at a few things, mostly mediocre if not really bad at others with a goalie who can steal you a game occasionally in the regular season, more often if you can get into the playoffs and a supposed star forward who can't get you through them.

If there really is a culture problem (and I'm going to go ahead and assume its true because everyone has been on this for months) it doesn't get solved by moving out 1 guy who was obviously contributing to it (Trouba) and a few others who weren't (Lindgren sucks, but he wasn't a problem off the ice.) The others who were issues are still here. Not really marking this as a negative because there are layers to making it happen but it should have been really, really f***ing easy to just sit back and let things play out while slowly stripping away the decay instead of trying to do that while remaining competitive to the tune of signing Igor to a massive extension (we could have lifted the Oilers for him yesterday, even as a pending UFA) and adding another expensive forward, no matter cheaply he may have come (maybe this one works out, but he isn't going to remain this good for much longer.)

And f*** Laviolette. Dude has intentionally nuked the few good things that this team has had going for them this year because of his love affairs with certain players and his inability to hold expensive veterans accountable while scapegoating easy targets. This is what led to his dismissal in Washington and unfortunately, barring an epic collapse (not even just missing the playoffs) we're going to see him back behind the bench next year. He should be axed along with the remaining portion of the core vets who need to go.
 
JT Miller is a good player but he honestly got overrated on this site, people were saying he was elite.

He's not close to a MacKinnon/Kucherov/Barkov kind of player in terms of taking over a game and carrying the play.

He's way closer to another Zibanejad before his game really went down the shitter if were being honest ,just a tad more potent of a scorer.
We need a MacKinnon/Barkov. In their prime, not when they are over it.
 
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In a game that presented myriad reasons to make me angry, you wanna know what pisses me off the most? The f***ing too many men and penalty. Just inexcusable.

They got wrecked all game. Igor kept it close. Then Igor choked it away. It’s crazy how a loss like this can’t be blamed on the goalie at all and totally blamed on him at the same time. The tying goal and the winner were just gross. Gross gross gross.

Absolutely brutal.

As much as he pissed me off at times Hank would finish games he's playing well. Igor meanwhile looks like Hasek for 2 periods and the love child of Georgiev and Cloutier in the 3rd. Even his biggest detractors don't claim he sucks 100% of the time.
 
I think I'm more annoyed with the fact that I don't remember the last time I saw an iteration of this team that really dictated the pace of play.

This was by far the most important game this team has played up to this point of the season and they got a vote of confidence from their GM who probably lessened his returns by asking for players who could help right now in some moves to try to keep things afloat even though he was stripping some parts off the roster.

This is the effort you come out with?

Ready to just let this iteration of the team die.



I don't know what they want their identity to be.

It's as if they want to be a rush based attack team with almost no puck moving defensemen, a few giant oafs (mind you, I thought Soucy was fine today and if thats what they get out of him, I'd be thrilled if it were in a 3rd pair role but we know where this is going) while simultaneously plugging in a few grindy forwards in an effort to try to be imposing.

I've heard things like "meat and potatoes" and "tougher to play against" and okay, they've added some size and snarl and are certainly better now than they were a few months ago.

But the above still applies. They haven't really committed to a direction and it leads to being sort of good at a few things, mostly mediocre if not really bad at others with a goalie who can steal you a game occasionally in the regular season, more often if you can get into the playoffs and a supposed star forward who can't get you through them.

If there really is a culture problem (and I'm going to go ahead and assume its true because everyone has been on this for months) it doesn't get solved by moving out 1 guy who was obviously contributing to it (Trouba) and a few others who weren't (Lindgren sucks, but he wasn't a problem off the ice.) The others who were issues are still here. Not really marking this as a negative because there are layers to making it happen but it should have been really, really f***ing easy to just sit back and let things play out while slowly stripping away the decay instead of trying to do that while remaining competitive to the tune of signing Igor to a massive extension (we could have lifted the Oilers for him yesterday, even as a pending UFA) and adding another expensive forward, no matter cheaply he may have come (maybe this one works out, but he isn't going to remain this good for much longer.)

And f*** Laviolette. Dude has intentionally nuked the few good things that this team has had going for them this year because of his love affairs with certain players and his inability to hold expensive veterans accountable while scapegoating easy targets. This is what led to his dismissal in Washington and unfortunately, barring an epic collapse (not even just missing the playoffs) we're going to see him back behind the bench next year. He should be axed along with the remaining portion of the core vets who need to go.
Yeah I agree that there really doesn't seem to be a direction. They've added some snarl and some dump and chase players, and Drury has certainly targeted that with his picks, but they still don't really play that way, outside of whatever line Rempe is on. And they only get the license to do so because it's "the 4th line."

The other lines are still trying to bring the puck up and play rush hockey, but they don't have the defense corps to do that (and I'd argue not the forward corps either!) so when that breaks down, it becomes a dump without a chase.

And yeah, I'm tired of these Rangers. They've never had a direction. That's why they're so bad fundamentally despite varying results.

That's on Gorton and his "let's just add whatever stuff" brand of team building. I don't hate everything Drury has done, but he hasn't been aggressive enough, at least yet. I don't care if you call it a rebuild, a retool, whatever; they need a new f***ing roster.

Regardless of how they want to play, the defense needs major upgrades, and that's why the fear of "well, we got Soucy, when do the Finals start?" exists.

Whatever they do, they need to remove all the dreck and not half ass that. And then the next iteration of the team needs to decide what the f*** they're doing, with a coach who will actually implement something.

People talk about rebuilding the meatsack Rangers, and I get that fear too, but at least it was something.

They turned into a really good checking team under AV once Torts stopped yelling at them, although we kinda needed that part.

I think a ruff and tumble kind of roster with Berard, Othmann, Sykora, Rempe, and whatever is left of Miller and Trocheck makes some sense to start with, but they need to get rid of every vet who isn't playing that way, and also Lafreniere because f*** 'im.
 
They are 31-31, that’s not surprising. They are a middling 500 team. 20 more games and it’s over, or 20 more games and a first round loss it’s over.

The league wanted parity, they got it, with just a bunch of bad teams.
Makes me crave Wings vs Avs from the 90s or Sens vs Leafs from the 00s.
 
Yeah I agree that there really doesn't seem to be a direction. They've added some snarl and some dump and chase players, and Drury has certainly targeted that with his picks, but they still don't really play that way, outside of whatever line Rempe is on. And they only get the license to do so because it's "the 4th line."

The other lines are still trying to bring the puck up and play rush hockey, but they don't have the defense corps to do that (and I'd argue not the forward corps either!) so when that breaks down, it becomes a dump without a chase.

And yeah, I'm tired of these Rangers. They've never had a direction. That's why they're so bad fundamentally despite varying results.

That's on Gorton and his "let's just add whatever stuff" brand of team building. I don't hate everything Drury has done, but he hasn't been aggressive enough, at least yet. I don't care if you call it a rebuild, a retool, whatever; they need a new f***ing roster.

Regardless of how they want to play, the defense needs major upgrades, and that's why the fear of "well, we got Soucy, when do the Finals start?" exists.

Whatever they do, they need to remove all the dreck and not half ass that. And then the next iteration of the team needs to decide what the f*** they're doing, with a coach who will actually implement something.

People talk about rebuilding the meatsack Rangers, and I get that fear too, but at least it was something.

They turned into a really good checking team under AV once Torts stopped yelling at them, although we kinda needed that part.

I think a ruff and tumble kind of roster with Berard, Othmann, Sykora, Rempe, and whatever is left of Miller and Trocheck makes some sense to start with, but they need to get rid of every vet who isn't playing that way, and also Lafreniere because f*** 'im.
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You can't tell me that this game and the previous 5-0 game were the same teams. f***, I don't even think we had JT Miller when we demolished this team last time we played. What an absolute roller coaster this season has been. It's been 5 seasons in one.
 
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21-21-4 with a Sav % around 905

That is absolutely ridiculous. I don’t care how he played for half the game. 3 goals in the last 10 mins of the game 2 of them baby shit soft to lose it just cannot happen. It doesn’t happen to Jonathan Quick. Your franchise goalie can’t win 3 in a row in 3 months?

I don’t care if you have replacement players in front of you. Put a few wins together make a few saves. Handle a friggen puck in the crease. Jesus Christ Igor
 
21-21-4 with a Sav % around 905

That is absolutely ridiculous. I don’t care how he played for half the game. 3 goals in the last 10 mins of the game 2 of them baby shit soft to lose it just cannot happen. It doesn’t happen to Jonathan Quick. Your franchise goalie can’t win 3 in a row in 3 months?

I don’t care if you have replacement players in front of you. Put a few wins together make a few saves. Handle a friggen puck in the crease. Jesus Christ Igor

I don't understand why it's too much to ask for your franchise goalie who is making more money than any goalie has ever made in the history of the NHL to steal a game once in a while. He has lowered the bar so far that "almost stole a game" is what makes people do a victory lap. Mind you he has not never stolen games for us. That first game against the Senators he completely stole. But literally every season outside of his Vezina season he started off stealing games and then decided "nah, I won't try anymore". We know he's capable of it. At his best he's as good as anyone. Unfortunately he's at his best like 10% of the time.
 
Playing Kreider and not putting him on PP1 is a huge mistake. Play him where he excels.

Kaliyev if healthy should be in for Othmann. Othmann needs more time in the AHL as he is invisible.

Lastly I can't stand teams sitting on leads and thats what the Rangers seem to be doing. The only offense that they had in the 3rd was after the Sena tied it. To me thats terrible coaching.
Playing Kreider was the huge mistake.
 
BTW, all of the crying about the defense. In 2025, he has played 19 games and has seen 30 or more shots 6 times, 7 if you count the Buffalo game where gave up 5 f***ing goals in the first period. If you take out the Buffalo game he's had as many games with 25 or fewer shots which is a light load for a goalie. Do you know what his save % is in 2025? 0.905. That is probably around league average. WTF are we paying him for?
 
You can't tell me that this game and the previous 5-0 game were the same teams. f***, I don't even think we had JT Miller when we demolished this team last time we played. What an absolute roller coaster this season has been. It's been 5 seasons in one.
They like to play with our emotions! One minute, we're not believing in them, then they go and look good with structure for a couple of games and we start believing and then they come out like they did today.
 
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There was no good reason to play Kreider today. The optics of activating him a day after the trade deadline aside, he had two practices maybe? Why not give him a few more practices first? What was the rush?
 

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