ODAAT
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easy to get confused, the Providence thread turned into a Coyle debate after all
Player Discussion Oliver Wahlstrom Claimed by Bruins
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I'm not against the Bruins working him into the lineup when someone is hurt or not playing well. Maybe he find another gear to his game or gets some good scoring chances that helps his confidence. But I think there's enough career sample size to label him as just another guy until he shows he has more. His roster spot is highly replaceable with what we've seen so far.
Lotta those guys filling up spots 7-14 on most teams in the NHL
Pittsburgh placed Jesse Puljujarvi on waivers for the purpose of sending him to the AHL. Another high draft choice talented rookie now finding it aroblem to score some ice time.
Terrier
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Ex-Islanders bust Oliver Wahlstrom thankful for fresh start with Bruins
He admitted that it was “really healthy” for him to get a fresh start with the Bruins after things appeared to be headed nowhere with the Islanders.
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Not saying I disagree at all, it's just the tenuous nature of sports, but he's hit 2 posts, I think.
Those go in, maybe he gets a little more ice time, maybe another goal and now we're having a different conversation --- at least for a little bit.
I'm 100% good with waiving him --- this is more about the luck involved in sports and how small details (a puck being 2 inches right or left) can have big repercussions.
I though I read somewhere the Bruins are looking at this as a project and will give him into next season.
I may be 100% wrong.
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He has played 7 games.
The topic of deadline acquisitions or off-season acquisitions often not getting enough time to get acclimated with their new team and really find their games- Why is it different for a guy who is arguably in a worse situation with arriving off waivers?
Food for thought. Not saying hes suddenly going to live up to the draft pedigree. Just saying give him some more time and a fair shake.
The topic of deadline acquisitions or off-season acquisitions often not getting enough time to get acclimated with their new team and really find their games- Why is it different for a guy who is arguably in a worse situation with arriving off waivers?
Food for thought. Not saying hes suddenly going to live up to the draft pedigree. Just saying give him some more time and a fair shake.
bobber
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Sweeny is like that boy with his finger in the dam trying to hold back the ocean. Gives away his top draft picks and tries to win a cup with free agents and cast offs of other teams. You can't expect a top prospect when your squad doesn't draft until the 4th round. The high end skilled guys are gone. The old blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while only benefits blind squirrels. Sweeny has to do better IMO or find someone else who is actually has a plan going forward on how to build a solid team.
just my view, but I’d say whether 7 games or 50, he’ll still be too slow to get into prime shooting positions and still not have the level of hockey IQ needed to compensate for the lack of quickness to get quality shots off.
Agree, but they keep rolling out the same lame group without change. Do they think all of a sudden this group of forwards will start scoring on it?
Crazy they have made hardly any personal changes on it. Im not talking about Charlie either.
Yeah I really don't get it. Their personnel isn't working right now and they keep rolling it out hoping it changes.
I'd like to see Braz in front of the net as well, Pasta, Marchy and Lohrei/Mac, and then Wahlstrom in the bumper for now. If it doesn't work no harm, go back to Lindholm or Zacha.
I feel like too often they're shoving square pegs into round holes, play to a guy like Wahlstorms strength which is his shot
Over the volcano
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34 games this season - 7 here. I'm fine being patient with him as there aren''t a whole lot of options right now but we can't ignore how he got here and what he hasn't done since he arrived.
More than a fair point. I don't know that he ever lives up to his draft position either, but it's not out of the question for him to develop into a solid middle 6 player.
Mr. Make-Believe
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Give him a fair shake or expect him to earn the opportunity?
There have been small smatterings of time when Wahlstrom’s looked… decent. And it would be different if he was killing it on some kind of possession metric or something along those lines. But he’s been (by and large) zeros across the board.
The team that drafted/developed him had enough. So much that they have him up for free. We have comparably so little invested that the only benefit to continuing forward is if there is a dividend paid.
He’s had a couple of big hits. A couple of decent looks. I’m not suggesting that the book is written on the guy after a half dozen games with the team. But there is so little wiggle room on this roster for passengers and ill-fits that we can’t afford to give him 40 games of bubkis in hopes that he reverses five years of trend.
If he has the talent to force the issue - then force the issue. Make Sacco look foolish for sitting you or make him look foolish for giving you ice time.
Dennis Bonvie
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Crash Davis:
You know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It's 25 hits. 25 hits in 500 at-bats is fifty points, okay? There's six months in a season, that's about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week, just one; A gork, a groundball—you get a groundball with eyes—you get a dying quail...just one more dying quail a week, and you're in Yankee Stadium.
Legit question for you: who else is there right now to play RW? I agree he needs to earn it, but one way is to allow him enough consistent icetime to settle in and find his Boston game and it isn't like someone is knocking on the door for the third line RW. Lysell does come to mind, but his talent is wasted playing with lower skill grinders.
BigGoalBrad
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If he wants to play in Providence I'd give him a nice 2 way deal where he gets most of his salary there. If he's scoring he can come up.
Not good enough so far.
Not good enough so far.
Mr. Make-Believe
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Fair question.
First off, I’m in favour of giving Lysell more of a shot in Boston. I want both him and Poitras up in an effort to add some creativity and skill to a heavy lineup. But barring that?
Pastrnak (obviously), Brazeau, McLaughlin, Koepke, Frederic, Coyle (I like him on the right with Lindholm and Marchand) all either play the right side or can… and all of them, even everyone’s favourite whipping boy Freddy, have been better than Wahlstrom.
Only guy on the roster who I think Wahlstrom has an argument in being sometimes better than, is Beecher. Now, does he have the POTENTIAL to be better some of these guys? Abso-lutely. I was in favour of the Bruins taking the swing when he hit the waiver wire.
But again, he’s got to force the issue.
No argument here- he has an opportunity with all the lowlights of Boston's forward corps. I hope they give him enough time to acclimate and adjust- 20 games or so? 15? If he still looks like he does now, adios, and no harm done.
I'm not happy that the Bruins seemingly think there isn't a better option to ice but I hope he breaks thru and starts popping in some goals to help his confidence. I just think he's overly redundant on this team as another big bodied skater with slow feet.
Geekie -- Zacha -- Pasta
Marchand -- Lindholm -- Coyle
Kopeke -- Poitras -- Brazeau
Beecher -- Kastelic -- Lysell
Just do this already.
Geekie -- Zacha -- Pasta
Marchand -- Lindholm -- Coyle
Kopeke -- Poitras -- Brazeau
Beecher -- Kastelic -- Lysell
Just do this already.
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