Prospect Info: Oliver Kapanen, RHC, KalPa U20 (U20 SM-sarja), 64th Overall

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LaP

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No way we get late 2nd for player like Dvorak. Realistically, 4th and we would need to retain 50%. Similar to Roslovic tradelast TDL.
It depends how well Dvorak plays this year and how healthy he is. He wins faceoffs. Will rarely make his coach look bad. He's a vanilla player but winning faceoffs = rispek in the mind of many dinosaurs. If at the deadline he is healthy and has 20 points he'll return a cond 3rd at least. One thing is sure we wont recoup the late 1st (Filip Bystedt) and high 2nd (Alfons Freij) we gave for him ;). That was one of MB worse trade,
 
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Estimated_Prophet

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Well, that is a lot of IFs. I have zero expectation of Dvorak.
Agreed on the "ifs".

The main one is health as he has actually played well when he has played considering that he has not been able to stay healthy long enough to build on his game. He is a good player and a quality 3c when healthy.
 

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It depends how well Dvorak plays this year and how healthy he is. He wins faceoffs. Will rarely make his coach look bad. He's a vanilla player but winning faceoffs = rispek in the mind of many dinosaurs. If at the deadline he is healthy and has 20 points he'll return a cond 3rd at least. One thing is sure we wont recoup the late 1st (Filip Bystedt) and high 2nd (Alfons Freij) we gave for him ;). That was one of MB worse trade,

Does the dinosaur comment make you feel better? Faceoffs are extremely valuable and there is no correlation to the age of those who value it and it's actual value. People who understand hockey value it and highlight drunk fans often do not.

He is still better than KK and as Hab fans we should be hopeful that he can stay healthy and have a good season. Let's not forget that we also got Engstrom in the KK deal.
 
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Does the dinosaur comment make you feel better? Faceoffs are extremely valuable and there is no correlation to the age of those who value it and it's actual value. People who understand hockey value it and highlight drunk fans often do not.

He is still better than KK and as Hab fans we should be hopeful that he can stay healthy and have a good season. Let's not forget that we also got Engstrom in the KK deal.
Dvorak in the bottom six is a fine piece. Not elite, but isn't a negative out there. Who cares about KK at this point, right?

Your point about faceoffs is so true. Older guys who are good at them can stick around, or at least have in the past, and that speaks more to their value than some veteran bias.
 

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If he stays healthy and plays to his potential he is worth a 2nd rounder all day as he is strong on faceoffs with decent size and is responsible defensively.
He never played to the potential he's worth. Why it would be different this year?
"Responsive defensively", Habs with Dvorak were among the worst teams in the league, the only good thing Dvorak does is a good % of winning FO. His foot speed is very very slow, he can't do anything good defensively or offensively. He would have been good in the years of hooking of the '80's.
 

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