Salary Cap: Oliver Ekman-Larsson

[VanJack]

With some players, particularly Swedish guys, their play tends to rise and fall based on their confidence level and comfort with their surroundings.

We saw it with Naslund and the Sedins......early in their careers their confidence and on-ice play waxed and waned.....and it took them a few seasons to realize their vast potential.

That's why you have to be optimistic about OEL. You could almost see the relief on his face in that media Zoom call, knowing that he's finally out of the toxic situation in Arizona and coming to a team that was on his bucket list for the past number of seasons.

I mean the 'Yotes wanted to dump him last season, and the only reason he was forced to go back was because they couldn't put a deal together. It's not the ideal situation, playing on a fire-fire of a team in a dud of a hockey market, and knowing that if the organization could dump you, they would have. And then being captain only makes things worse.

Obviously the Canucks play far more of an up-tempo style of game than Tochet had the Coyotes playing. It'll mesh far better with OEL's game. And he won't be looked to, to carry the team on his back every night. The Canucks already have a captain and a lot of other leaders on this team. So he's a complimentary player.

And sounds to me in that Zoom call that he's determined to put some of the shoddy performances in Arizona in the rear-view mirror. Time will tell, I guess.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

as a player, i am glad to have him. he's an awesome veteran add to the team with a solid all rounder skill set and some elite talents. i fully expect him to contribute as a top line player for at least the first couple of years, and based on the type of player he is i expect him to remain useful throughout his contract as he declines.

i don't care about the money aquaman has to pay.

the cap hit is the only factor

i said exactly the same thing about eriksson.

He is one of the best veterans we have!

Cant wait for the season to start. We now have 3 top pairing calibre Dmen.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Benning threw in the 2nd and 7th to seal the deal when the deal didn't need sealing.

 

[Nucky]

Benning threw in the 2nd and 7th to seal the deal when the deal didn't need sealing.

The inclusion of the 7th still makes me lol, that has to be an inside joke between some GM's round the league about guys like Benning.

 

[Luck 6]

Benning threw in the 2nd and 7th to seal the deal when the deal didn't need sealing.

That’s pure speculation. I doubt it’s true, to be honest. The value seems fine to me, whether we end up winning the trade or not.

 

[Wo Yorfat]

I guess he'll replace Edlers production. For 7.2M. For 6 years. Unless we revamp PP1 to force him onto it to buoy the acquisition like having Sutter with the twins. Then he'll likely outproduce Edler.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I guess he'll replace Edlers production. For 7.2M. For 6 years. Unless we revamp PP1 to force him onto it to buoy the acquisition like having Sutter with the twins. Then he'll likely outproduce Edler.

One of the things I've been thinking about: Let's say Benning goes bridge deal on Hughes. Puts OEL in the top PP spot and Hughes on the 2nd unit. What then does Hughes' production look like? How does it affect his next contract?

He wouldn't have the production spikes to warrant huge money.

 

[Sweetpotato]

I'll be very interested to see how this plays out. One of the few fans that think he has a lot more in the tank.

 

[Wo Yorfat]

One of the things I've been thinking about: Let's say Benning goes bridge deal on Hughes. Puts OEL in the top PP spot and Hughes on the 2nd unit. What then does Hughes' production look like? How does it affect his next contract?

He wouldn't have the production spikes to warrant huge money.

I get it, but i think between the team clawing for every point and the fact it would be really transparent and just sour Hughes on the organization, I doubt it happens. If they force-feed OEL pp1 minutes, I have to think it's alongside Hughes.

 

[m9]

One of the things I've been thinking about: Let's say Benning goes bridge deal on Hughes. Puts OEL in the top PP spot and Hughes on the 2nd unit. What then does Hughes' production look like? How does it affect his next contract?

He wouldn't have the production spikes to warrant huge money.

Just trade Hughes now if that is the plan.

 

[Aphid Attraction]

The advanced stats show that he is one of the worst D men in the entire NHL over the past few seasons and that his his contract is up there with the Erik Karlsson and Sergei Bobrovsky deals in terms of surplus (deficit) value.

Ok, but a couple of years ago people would at least post charts

 

[alternate]

I think the hope/plan/goal isn't for OEL to refind his elite form from yesteryear. Rather, it should be that he comes in rejuvenated and refinds his defensive game, and even takes it up a level when he's no longer looked at to be the main driver of offense for his team.

If enjoying the game again can restore his passion, his vision and anticipation should still be there. Might not be physically what he was when he was 25, but he also doesn't have to be to excel in the role we need him in. We don't need him going end to end, always looking to jump into the rush, etc. We need him to be a guy that can excel at puck support, gap coverage, and turning the puck back up ice.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Benning threw in the 2nd and 7th to seal the deal when the deal didn't need sealing.

This is a silly, unfalsifiable statement. At this point we know nothing about the negotiations.

 

[timw33]

Ok, but a couple of years ago people would at least post charts

Breaking Down the Oliver Ekman-Larsson Trade Using Analytics

there's lots of charts, none of them make him look anything like more than a replacement level 3rd pair D

 

[Dump Itch]

If it's true that OEL would only waive for us or Boston, and Boston wasn't interested, the 2nd and 7th sting even more.

True.
Why not take back the 1st, add in another albatross contract like Holtby?

Roussel
Eriksson
Hotlby
Beagle

for

OEL
Garland

Makes sense for both teams no?

 

[Aphid Attraction]

Breaking Down the Oliver Ekman-Larsson Trade Using Analytics

there's lots of charts, none of them make him look anything like more than a replacement level 3rd pair D

Well it's probably my fault since I have twitter blocked by my router so I don't have to deal with it

 

[PG Canuck]

True.
Why not take back the 1st, add in another albatross contract like Holtby?

Roussel
Eriksson
Hotlby
Beagle

for

OEL
Garland

Makes sense for both teams no?

Why would Arizona want no picks

 

[MarkMM]

This is a silly, unfalsifiable statement. At this point we know nothing about the negotiations.

Well, if an already bad deal required us to add even more pieces in then not doing the trade would have been the right thing to do.

 

[GetFocht]

 

[dbaz]

he had a zoom conference today. its up on tsn.. didnt watch it all but in the firsst 4 mins said the last 4 years were really difficult for him (same timeline as tocchet). said he hasnt been happy or had confidence in those 4 years.

maybe... just maybe...we get lucky here and tocchet had just destroyed his will to play

 

[timw33]

What does a clip from over 6 years ago have to do with the player and contract we now have today?

 

[Hugh Mungus]

can't we put Ferland on LTIR to free up some space?

 

[ProstheticConscience]

can't we put Ferland on LTIR to free up some space?

Hasn't he already been there since forever?

 

[timw33]

can't we put Ferland on LTIR to free up some space?

Every projection and model already assumes he's on LTIR. If he attempts to play we'd be completely ****ed.

 

[ahmon]

he had a zoom conference today. its up on tsn.. didnt watch it all but in the firsst 4 mins said the last 4 years were really difficult for him (same timeline as tocchet). said he hasnt been happy or had confidence in those 4 years.

maybe... just maybe...we get lucky here and tocchet had just destroyed his will to play

I'm actually more confident OEL can hold his side of the bargain more than Garland. I feel OEL will be a decent top 4 here. He never was elite defensively and never will but canucks transition and mobility improved adding him and hopefully subtracting Edler.

Garland who is diminutive I'm worried the canucks will sign him for too long. I'm also not sure the top 6 needs another really small player. He certainly is skilled and battles though.