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Post-Game Talk: Old Joe the Science Bro

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SnowblindNYR said:
Shesty has made a reputation off one great season. I don't think 0.916 is bad per se, Lundqvist is lower scoring leagues had 3 of his first 4 seasons in that range. However, I feel like a lot of people still treat him like the Vezina winning goalie. He hasn't been that most of his career. Now, his career is pretty young and so is this season but he really shows some very bad tendencies. Just too many awful goals by him. Quick has been miles better than him. Shesterkin has given up multiple goals worse than the worst goal Quick has given up. Honestly Quick had a meh third period against Detroit and a bad goal against the Kraken. That's about it. I doubt he can have a starter's workload but Quick is legit our best goalie this year and it's not even close. I question if we'll ever seen Shesterkin get his shit together with a consistent season again where he doesn't give up back breaking God awful goals on a semi-regular basis.
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Shesty was that dude in Russia, in Hartford, immediately when brought up, and ever since. Maybe you've been cised for so long that you don't realize you're cised.

The most frustrating goal he gave up tonight was the second. Whatever. I've chosen to forgive him. Big of me.
 
huerter said:
Shesty was that dude in Russia, in Hartford, immediately when brought up, and ever since. Maybe you've been cised for so long that you don't realize you're cised.

The most frustrating goal he gave up tonight was the second. Whatever. I've chosen to forgive him. Big of me.
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How can you say that a run of the mill rebound goal is more frustrating than a goal where he made the save and for some inexplicable reason picked up his glove with no whistle. It's just an epic brain fart I've literally never seen in the NHL in 23 years of watching hockey.
 
It's all Panarin's fault. He should be traded while he still has value. If he had scored a couple of goals, the team would have won again.
 
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Shesterkybomb said:
Ya'll throwing Shesty under the bus after his 2nd game back from injury and ignoring the rest of the jokers giving their ice away like it was Christmas.
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Players come back from injury all the time. He's a professional. He shouldn't need two games to knock his rust off. Is this another Lundqvist situation where it's ALWAYS everyone else's fault? The reason they gave ice away is because of a backbreaking goal Shesterkin gave up to give Dallas all of the momentum and deflate the team that made the game 3-2. He was literally the reason we lost this game.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
How can you say that a run of the mill rebound goal is more frustrating than a goal where he made the save and for some inexplicable reason picked up his glove with no whistle. It's just an epic brain fart I've literally never seen in the NHL in 23 years of watching hockey.
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He overplayed the save and put the rebound right in the slot. I've already forgiven him so let's move on.

Also, I was a high major DOBO.
 
huerter said:
He overplayed the save and put the rebound right in the slot. I've already forgiven him so let's move on.

Also, I was a high major DOBO.
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But it was a run of the mill mistake. That third goal I've literally never seen anything like it. Did he think he heard a whistle? I can't imagine why he would randomly lift his glove and allow Dallas to poke it in.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
But it was a run of the mill mistake. That third goal I've literally never seen anything like it. Did he think he heard a whistle? I can't imagine why he would randomly lift his glove and allow Dallas to poke it in.
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A run of the mill technical mistake is more of a teachable moment than a random S happens moment. That's the point.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
But it was a run of the mill mistake. That third goal I've literally never seen anything like it. Did he think he heard a whistle? I can't imagine why he would randomly lift his glove and allow Dallas to poke it in.
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It was a dumb play and he wasn't good tonight but I think the one play that turned the game around was the stupid pass by Vesey to Miller when the Rangers were up 2-0 and had all the momentum.
 
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PuckLuck3043 said:
It was a dumb play and he wasn't good tonight but I think the one play that turned the game around was the stupid pass by Vesey to Miller when the Rangers were up 2-0 and had all the momentum.
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This is 2023 and I no longer think that a 3rd period lead means the game should be over. That said you're up 2-1 in the third you should have a good chance of coming out with at least a point.
 
PuckLuck3043 said:
It was a dumb play and he wasn't good tonight but I think the one play that turned the game around was the stupid pass by Vesey to Miller when the Rangers were up 2-0 and had all the momentum.
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Our puck management was deteriorating before that. Laffy had two brutal plays in the NZ on one shift. That shift where we got hemmed in our zone and Sam and Joe gave us TOI updates every 5 seconds, we got clean possession and gave it up right away and couldn't change. Those were a couple that stand out but it was a team-wide dip.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
But it was a run of the mill mistake. That third goal I've literally never seen anything like it. Did he think he heard a whistle? I can't imagine why he would randomly lift his glove and allow Dallas to poke it in.
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I'm watching the MSG postgame analysis on youtube and I have no idea what you are saying. At no point is his glove hand involved in that play.
 
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I don't think Dallas was that good, I think we were just really bad.

The shit I've been complaining about for weeks finally cost us. The fact that it took this long is a miracle.

Where are the posters that were telling me Kreider and Mika are fine..?

They suck. They've sucked for a long time now at 5 on 5 dating back to early last season. And it's not an ability thing, it's an effort thing. Ever since Trouba got the C both of them have been mailing it in 5 on 5. We will go nowhere unless those 2 start generating SOMETHING at 5 on 5. Mika's at least had looks. Kreider looks absolutely horrific, refuses to move his feet and can't wait to get off the ice so he can cherry pick a point shot on the powerplay for his bi-nightly goal
 
People saying Mika is fine are capital D Delusional. He’s been awesome. Off the charts. 3 goals against at even strength all year. Uncanny good.
 
Jokes aside, we had a bad game but we’re still 4th overall in the league with an AWOL 1C, our best D man still away and most of our offensive production coming off a single line.

Lavi might need to put some lines through the blender but overall we’re looking good.
 
PuckLuck3043 said:
It was a dumb play and he wasn't good tonight but I think the one play that turned the game around was the stupid pass by Vesey to Miller when the Rangers were up 2-0 and had all the momentum.
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Agree with your post. All five Rangers are moving forward on that play. Vesey needs to pass forward to another teammate or dump it deep.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
Players come back from injury all the time. He's a professional. He shouldn't need two games to knock his rust off. Is this another Lundqvist situation where it's ALWAYS everyone else's fault? The reason they gave ice away is because of a backbreaking goal Shesterkin gave up to give Dallas all of the momentum and deflate the team that made the game 3-2. He was literally the reason we lost this game.
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It's pretty common knowledge that goalies need some runway after being out of the net for a bit. Quick looked awful during preseason until he found his timing, it's what it is.
 
Rongomania said:
Actually just came here to post:

"Hey at least it's only one game."

On to the next one Ho's.
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Was glad no one brought up Wedgewood’s goalie mask last night, Was afraid I was going to get the blame for the loss. Lol. Honestly thought he was good not great. Shesty was just not good at all. Hopefully he shakes off the rust.
 
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