Confirmed with Link: Oilers sign Jason Dickinson ($4M AAV x 5 Years)

[Lay Z Boy GM]

If you don't think you need some offense from your 3rd line you have no clue what makes a Cup winner , look at Carolina 3rd line to ours or Florida in 25 we came very close with a solid 3rd line in 24 we have been playing 4th liners as a 3rd line since

A scoring 3rd line is so huge. I’ve always preferred the idea of a pure PK specialist on the 4th line, crash and bang a little bit ES and kill penalties.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

A third line that doesn't score means McDrai's role is to provide 90% of the team's offense, so be ready for them to play half the game when the team needs to score.

There's a reason why good teams have a third line like Carolina's and not a "shutdown" line.

The offensive output will depend on who they choose to give him as wingers.

He will obviously be the most defensively responsible one on that line. He's a heavy player too.

That's good to have as a 3rd line center for this team, IMO.

 

[Soundwave]

A third line that doesn't score means McDrai's role is to provide 90% of the team's offense, so be ready for them to play half the game when the team needs to score.

There's a reason why good teams have a third line like Carolina's and not a "shutdown" line.

How is that any different than before though, lol.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

A third line that doesn't score means McDrai's role is to provide 90% of the team's offense, so be ready for them to play half the game when the team needs to score.

There's a reason why good teams have a third line like Carolina's and not a "shutdown" line.

To add. Their two highest scoring forwards.

Aho had 80 points.

Ehlers 71.

Much different salary structure and team make-up.

 

[LTIR]

A scoring 3rd line is so huge. I’ve always preferred the idea of a pure PK specialist on the 4th line, crash and bang a little bit ES and kill penalties.

I think a shutdown 3rd line worked better for us.

If Dickinson can take on opponents' top lines leaving weaker ones for McD and. Drai line then we win more games and McDrai stay fresher.

Dickinson just needs better wingers than Frederic and Roslovic on that shutdown line.

 

[CupofOil]

The mental gymnastics that Oiler fans are going through to all of a sudden argue that we don't need depth scoring that can actually win their matchups and can just rely solely on McDrai to do all the scoring (and outscoring) after years of us seeing that ultimately you can't win that way is just... maddening.

They went to back to back finals with 3rd lines that were used predominately in a shut down role.
First of all, mostly everybody scored poorly compared to their career norms under Knoblauch and, secondly, the main reason why the Oilers fell off hard last year was because their defending was quite a bit worse. Depth scoring is a need but the defensive regression from their forwards and defense was also a big problem. The problem in the Anaheim series was predominantly McDavid being a massive liability, not their depth players, and the PK but I think that was also a coaching problem.

Dickinson had scored 30+ points two straight years before the last two and he showed off some goal scoring skill in the playoffs last year so I don't think it's impossible to expect some offense from him going forward in addition to being solid defensively and on the PK.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Just like Stan likes 'em

 

[Mr Positive]

We had the worst bottom 6 in the league last year. What possible reason is there to think he'll have good linemates here? Unless we're bringing in two elite 3rd line wingers he's going to be playing with junk.

Frederic was a lot better to end the season than at the start. He will be good to start this upcoming year. Kapanen or guy like that would be good. I could see Samanski finding a new gear.

 

[Spawn]

Frederic was a lot better to end the season than at the start. He will be good to start this upcoming year. Kapanen or guy like that would be good. I could see Samanski finding a new gear.

Frederic's final 19 games of the regular season (coming out of the Olympic break) he had 2G 2A and was -2. And then ended up a healthy scratch the last 2 games of the playoffs because he was so unplayable.

Frederic is one of the very worst players in the NHL.

I like Samanski, but this is a 4th liner that put up 4 points in 24 games last season.

All of Kapanen's success here has come when he's been attached to the hip of Draisaitl. If we think he's going to be a strong 3rd liner lining up with Dickinson and Samansko/Frederic... lol.

Yeah, shaping up to be the worst bottom 6 in the league again if a combo of those players are making up our 3rd line.

At least you didn't suggest RNH could be Dickinson's winger. Also one of the worst 5v5 players in the league last season.

 

[Soundwave]

Frederic's final 19 games of the regular season (coming out of the Olympic break) he had 2G 2A and was -2. And then ended up a healthy scratch the last 2 games of the playoffs because he was so unplayable.

Frederic is one of the very worst players in the NHL.

I like Samanski, but this is a 4th liner that put up 4 points in 24 games last season.

All of Kapanen's success here has come when he's been attached to the hip of Draisaitl. If we think he's going to be a strong 3rd liner lining up with Dickinson and Samansko/Frederic... lol.

Yeah, shaping up to be the worst bottom 6 in the league again if a combo of those players are making up our 3rd line.

At least you didn't suggest RNH could be Dickinson's winger. Also one of the worst 5v5 players in the league last season.

I think the forwards while flawed will be OK just because McDavid/Draisaitl give them so much run way and Babcock's system is fairly uptempo and will probably give the forward group a bounce.

The defence and goaltending likely isn't good enough though, middle of the pack might be on the high end of expectation. Babcock's teams' GA with no Lidstrom is nothing great.

 

[alphahelix]

The most Oilers thing to do to fix the bottom 6 is let all the guys who were effective in crunch time walk and retain all the guys who were utter trash, and then overpay a new guy to be utter trash.

 

[VainGretzky]

They went to back to back finals with 3rd lines that were used predominately in a shut down role.
First of all, mostly everybody scored poorly compared to their career norms under Knoblauch and, secondly, the main reason why the Oilers fell off hard last year was because their defending was quite a bit worse. Depth scoring is a need but the defensive regression from their forwards and defense was also a big problem. The problem in the Anaheim series was predominantly McDavid being a massive liability, not their depth players, and the PK but I think that was also a coaching problem.

Dickinson had scored 30+ points two straight years before the last two and he showed off some goal scoring skill in the playoffs last year so I don't think it's impossible to expect some offense from him going forward in addition to being solid defensively and on the PK.

The year he scored 22 he was playing top 6 he had the 4th most icetime for forwards on that team ,only behind Bedard, Kurashev , Foligno he was 5th for 5-5 and only player in top 6 to play all 82

 

[Soli]

 

[harpoon]

A full f***ing NMC … why am I not at all surprised. Good one Bowman you idiot.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Bowman has a sick addiction to re sign players he acquired, no matter the term or price.

It's not an awful number but bottom six fwd and bottom 2 D should never get MMC.

 

[fireantz]

So if Dickinson is our shutdown center who are his wingers?

 

[Jarvi]

So if Dickinson is our shutdown center who are his wingers?

Who cares, that line is going to be nothing but GA regardless.

 

[VainGretzky]

A full f***ing NMC … why am I not at all surprised. Good one Bowman you idiot.

Lert these borderline players hit UFA and they can come back after not getting what they want , another NMC what a joke

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Bowman still throwing in a NMC into every contract after it completely screwed us this season is something else

 

[VainGretzky]

Next up Murphy 5x5 full NMC kapanen and Roslovic gone and the 27 goals replaced by a 25 goal winger they better pray Savoie takes off on offense next season Podz continuing to improve and Howard having a good season

 

[Oilhawks]

NMC is irrelevant. He will be staying those 3 years. Rather that than a higher AAV

 

[Pip]

Cuz its a similar AAV and a way to bash the Oilers.

The funny part of that is that Frederic wasn't even bad anymore

Frederic is still bad.

 

[Pip]

Samanski as the 4th line center behind Dickinson might bring something.

Really depends on how they structure the line. I have a feeling Dach will be a fixture on that fourth line and he brings very little/no offense.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Dont hate it, don't love it.

4 mil is fine for a go-to PKer, who brings a decent but of intangibles. But my main concern is this fills up the top 9, assuming you're going to give Frederic a proper shot in camp as a 3rd liner, along with Howard a look at a top 6 role. That once again leaves them with only Freddy as the sole top 9 forward over 210lb...

Podz-McDavid-Draisaitl
Howard-Dickinson-Savoie
Frederic-RNH-Hyman

They're too small up front and this does nothing to fix that. Well unless you want to give Howard's top 9 spot to Dach (don't hate that), and then deal with that trade request...

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

If the cup window is the next three years (or next year alone) the NMC doesn’t bother me