Adin Hill is a much more recent example that you don't a high priced goalie. Tell me how many cups your last Allstars goalie won
Proposal: Oilers/Rangers - Draisaitl for Shesterkin
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colchar
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The Oilers are in pretty good shape now without that 'real' goalie that you seem to think they need.
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Nah, Draisaitl is McDavid's ride or die. They'll be together their whole career, book it. Playing with one of your best friends, who is also a superstar is the best work environment.
In a 1 for 1 trade there's are maybe a handful of players the Oilers would trade Draisaitl for. Bedard, MacKinnon, Makar and Matthews would be considered. Roy/Brodeur in their prime are the only goalies the Oilers would consider. Shesterkin would only happen if Drai said he isn't going to re-sign.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Doesn’t work that way. The Oilers don’t receive a trophy for winning three in a row. They win a trophy for winning four of seven. Still one game to go, and no I don’t think Stuart Skinner’s .901 SV% is starting level in the playoffs. It’s a miracle they’ve gotten this far with such bad goaltending.
Panthaz89
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Imagine trading Draisaitl who is probably the 2nd best player in the league especially in the playoffs for a goalie.
Panthaz89
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Think we will get the full explanation on Monday it's comedic when people talk before a series is over.
Edmonton is 1 game away and has all the momentum. Skinner only let in 1 in game 4 and 1 in game 6 against the best in the East. It doesn’t matter if the other teams ran up the score in less significant games.
Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
Isn’t that what you’re doing?
So you want the website shut down until a winner is declared?
They are all significant games. 16 wins. Over an extended sample, he’s bad at his job.
colchar
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Do you not grasp that they wouldn't be one win away without his goaltending?
He could be the Cup winning goalie 72hrs from now, but you don't even think he reaches the level of being a starting goalie. You're special. With your obvious genius for evaluating talent I simply cannot understand why NHL teams aren't beating down your door to hire you as head scout or GM.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
You are defending a player who by any objective measure does not do his job well. Believe me, if Edmonton loses game 7 the first thing they will go to is blaming their goaltending for not being Cup winning material.Do you not grasp that they wouldn't be one win away without his goaltending?
He could be the Cup winning goalie 72hrs from now, but you don't even think he reaches the level of being a starting goalie. You're special. With your obvious genius for evaluating talent I simply cannot understand why NHL teams aren't beating down your door to hire you as head scout or GM.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Why do you know better than everyone else?
Something and someone always gets blamed. But, even so, playing that game, players who have been bigger passengers than Skinner. Nurse, Nuge, bigger passengers, even McLeod only had 1 in 36.
Look at all the players that got blamed in New York even though they made it to the eastern finals.
No one says the other team was simply better. Florida didn’t simply get outplayed they choked. It’s always hyperbole.
Improving on Skinner to Shester is not worthwhile if it’s going to cost Drai. You have to pick your weaknesses in a cap world. Do you spend on a goalie or forwards or D. There is no perfect team. Yet, Florida and Edmonton have enough strengths in enough areas to have got them this far. One will simply get a little further and win the cup. Who that is, depends on a lot of factors, namely luck. Yet they have managed to make it that far, everyone else hasn’t.
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I wonder if Igor would have stopped that big soft goal in game 7?
Draisaitl certainly didnt show up to the finals.
Oilers would be lifting Lords Stanleys Cup right now had this trade been made.
Draisaitl certainly didnt show up to the finals.
Oilers would be lifting Lords Stanleys Cup right now had this trade been made.
ChaoticOrange
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Hey crypto guy, go step on every single rake ever made in human history one after another.I wonder if Igor would have stopped that big soft goal in game 7?
Draisaitl certainly didnt show up to the finals.
Oilers would be lifting Lords Stanleys Cup right now had this trade been made.
n8
WAAAAAAA!!!
It'd be on brand for the Rangers to trade for someone who doesn't show up against stiff competition.I wonder if Igor would have stopped that big soft goal in game 7?
Draisaitl certainly didnt show up to the finals.
Oilers would be lifting Lords Stanleys Cup right now had this trade been made.
AirGut
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nobody but the Rangers deserve a tendy like Igor, they took the chance on him and DRAFTED him, they DEVELOPED HIM, nobody else decided to have patience in Igor but NY. The vultures and rats that have yet to put stock in goal-tending don't deserve to poach someone like Shestyorkin off NYR just because, f*** that.
Mods, delete the thread.
Mods, delete the thread.
n8
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I'm still bitter about trading Marc Savard and Doug Weight but take chill pill, my man.
Crazy8oooo
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Considering Igor didn’t get the Rangers to the finals, how do you know the Oilers, minus Draisaitl, would’ve even made it that far, much less win it all?I wonder if Igor would have stopped that big soft goal in game 7?
Draisaitl certainly didnt show up to the finals.
Oilers would be lifting Lords Stanleys Cup right now had this trade been made.
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ElPrimeTime
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I wonder if Igor would have stopped that big soft goal in game 7?
Draisaitl certainly didnt show up to the finals.
Oilers would be lifting Lords Stanleys Cup right now had this trade been made.
Oilers don't make the finals without Drai so if they had Igor, they aren't even in this situation.
ChaoticOrange
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Ullmark just went for a downgrade and spare parts, Shesterkin doesn't even come close to getting Draisaitl.
Skinner+Broberg+1st at best.
Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
The issue with what you’re saying is this.
We’re talking about the goalie around the league that has the most value. Ullmark is very good, but didn’t even have the most value on his own team. Markstrom who is worse went for more. You can’t look at one trade in isolation to approximate a trade for a different category of player.
We are going to ask for the moon to trade Igor. You are going to ask for the moon to trade Drai. The idea that there’s some way to approximate value for both is silly. If one of those super trades happen it’s likely to just be a trade that both sides aren’t happy with and the value doesn’t add up to both sides. I’m not advocating for this trade, but I genuinely don’t think you guys could get Igor without including one of McDrai. And with that, I think the conclusion is that there’s no trade to be made.
bold is true but just b'c Bs jumped out a window after getting bent over, does not mean Rs will follow
Shesty wherever for top $ or no deal
he is like 5.6 this season
w/Leafs needing to do something dif to change trajectory/not repeat last few seasons, I see
Shesty + Zib +
for
Nylander +
