Proposal: Oilers need to stock for the future...

capttim

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The Oilers are slim with some prospects on the farm....

- right and left shooting offensive defenseman...
- right wingers
- upcoming goalies

What would it take to get DeAngelo from Arizona?
 

QcFlames12

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The Oilers core is extremely young, they don't need to stick the farm they need to stick the team. Answers to depth and Defence should be answered before worrying about anything else.
 

Hunter368

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The Oilers are slim with some prospects on the farm....

- right and left shooting offensive defenseman...
- right wingers
- upcoming goalies

What would it take to get DeAngelo from Arizona?

You better go into rebuild mode and.......oh wait. :sarcasm:
 

capttim

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I do not agree... you must have balance... stock the farm to properly develop players... not throw in rookies into the line-up like what was done in the past...

In my opinion the Oil were forced to pay sub par free agents too much because our development system/drafting sucked so bad. Also we will be a cap strapped team in no time... think of what the upcoming stars are going to get in the near future.
 

CS95

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The Oilers are the last team in my opinion that needs to stock for the future
 

La Bamba

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I don't think you need to stock for the future when your main roster is as young as the Oilers. The average age of McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse, and Pulju is 20 and RNH, Klefbom, and Larsson are all 23.

The Oilers are more than fine for the future..
 

herestohoping

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The Oilers are slim with some prospects on the farm....

- right and left shooting offensive defenseman...
- right wingers
- upcoming goalies

What would it take to get DeAngelo from Arizona?

Laurent broissot and Nick Ellis look pretty decent....
 

Christ

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I think they should sell everything for futures and prospects...the current group of players is clearly only going to get older! They missed out on ONE first overall pick in what the last 10 years and look what happens!! Seriously though, is this thread a joke?
 

Calgareee

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The Oilers are on the verge (year or two) of creating a dynasty team (which I hate to admit) and need to learn from the Kings and Chicago. Their biggest enemy is going to be cap space. They've got a passable set of top 3 defensemen that are making ~13 mill but could still use an offensive PP QB. Their forward depth is looking decent but they're going to have to plan for some pretty drastic turnover in the next few years with new contracts for McDavid and Drai if he breaks out like he could.

The downside is that they also won't be able to utilize the cap circumventing contracts either like Chicago (Keith and Hossa). I do hope that they are able to build something successful and it will definitely be interesting to see how they try to build this team.
 

Del Preston

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Even if the Oilers needed to restock their prospect pool, who are they supposed to trade to acquire young pieces?

I do not agree... you must have balance... stock the farm to properly develop players... not throw in rookies into the line-up like what was done in the past...

In my opinion the Oil were forced to pay sub par free agents too much because our development system/drafting sucked so bad. Also we will be a cap strapped team in no time... think of what the upcoming stars are going to get in the near future.
Based on what? Take a look at their future cap situation, they are in good shape.
 

Roof Daddy

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The Oilers are slim with some prospects on the farm....

- right and left shooting offensive defenseman...
- right wingers
- upcoming goalies

What would it take to get DeAngelo from Arizona?

As a previous poster mentioned, the current age of the core means this is not a pressing matter. As long as we don't go too crazy trading picks for rentals over the next few years (assuming we've officially turned the corner and make the playoffs the next couple years) then we just need to land at least one good prospect each draft (easier said than done, but a reasonable expectation).
 

capttim

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Let's potentially add this up...

Mcdavid 10 mil
Draisaitl 6 mil
Nurse 4 mil

That is just about 20 mil. (well really around 11 mil. less their current salaries) coming in the next 2 years.

Plus.... JP, Pitlick, Pak, Davidson.... and so on....

Cap problems are coming for sure
 

McFlyingV

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Let's potentially add this up...

Mcdavid 10 mil
Draisaitl 6 mil
Nurse 4 mil

That is just about 20 mil. (well really around 11 mil. less their current salaries) coming in the next 2 years.

Plus.... JP, Pitlick, Pak, Davidson.... and so on....

Cap problems are coming for sure

And after this year 3.25M is gone from Ference, after next year 3.5M from Fayne and 1M from Korpse buyout gone, year after Eberle's 6M and Pouliot's 4M are off the books.

They already have their core players, and should have enough depth support on the way with Caggiula, Benson, Slepyshev, Pitlick, Khaira, Benning, Reinhart, Oesterle all having potential to be future NHLers that aren't far away, and that doesn't even dig into the prospects like Bear, Niemalainen, Jones, Paigin, Marino, Lagesson, Rasanen as well as some of the other wildcards who could churn out an NHL player or 2.

The goaltending prospect pool is not even that bad either with Brossoit, Ellis, Wells, and Svoboda.
 
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McWeber

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Let's potentially add this up...

Mcdavid 10 mil
Draisaitl 6 mil
Nurse 4 mil

That is just about 20 mil. (well really around 11 mil. less their current salaries) coming in the next 2 years.

Plus.... JP, Pitlick, Pak, Davidson.... and so on....

Cap problems are coming for sure

cap goes up, players like Ference, Fayne, Russel, Pouliot etc etc go out the door and help make room. Davidson, Pitlick, Pak, Kassian and Maroon likely stay relatively cheap based on the role they fill. The farm really doesn't look half bad, there are some good young D prospects and a few wingers like Caggiula and Benson who are very likely to be top 9 players.
 

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Yeah, acquiring players who have never played an NHL game isn't high on our priority list.

If we're making any trades it's for proven NHL players.
 

m302291

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Disagree that the Oil will be a cap strapped team with the implication of having to let guys go like CHI because of the cap.

Look at what the Lightning (and to a lesser extent Panthers) have done. If you build a core of similar ages that likes playing together and have bought into a system of collectivity, as well as actually negotiating with your superstars instead of just handing out double digit contracts, then you can very easily build a very good team within the confines of the cap.

The only concern will be about RNH and Lucic's 6m a piece, and they won't even part of the actual core in three years, so it wouldn't be a tragedy if those are the guys that are cap casualties.
 

Del Preston

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Let's potentially add this up...

Mcdavid 10 mil
Draisaitl 6 mil
Nurse 4 mil

That is just about 20 mil. (well really around 11 mil. less their current salaries) coming in the next 2 years.

Plus.... JP, Pitlick, Pak, Davidson.... and so on....

Cap problems are coming for sure
We have zero idea what some of these players will be re-signed for, who will be on the team in two years, or what the salary cap will be. Nurse has a long way to go before he's making $4M on his next contract.

You haven't answered how the Oilers are supposed to add young players to the farm. The team just started winning thanks in part to good veterans. Who are the Oilers trading from the current team for future help?
 

McFlyingV

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Disagree that the Oil will be a cap strapped team with the implication of having to let guys go like CHI because of the cap.

Look at what the Lightning (and to a lesser extent Panthers) have done. If you build a core of similar ages that likes playing together and have bought into a system of collectivity, as well as actually negotiating with your superstars instead of just handing out double digit contracts, then you can very easily build a very good team within the confines of the cap.

The only concern will be about RNH and Lucic's 6m a piece, and they won't even part of the actual core in three years, so it wouldn't be a tragedy if those are the guys that are cap casualties.

I agree, although I think RNH can still be a part of the core. Having 3 quality centres and one really good winger (Puljujarvi assuming he reaches his potential) can work just fine if you have quality support wingers.

The one nice thing is that we have Klefbom and Larsson both on long-term deals just over 4M each. If Nurse continues to develop and gets locked up at a similar amount then you have 3 of your top 4 D at 12M which leaves a ton of cap room to pay the stars up front.
 

Bryanbryoil

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We need a 2nd pairing RHD that can shoot the puck on the PP and chip in offensively. Beyond that IMO we're in pretty good shape prospects and NHL wise.
 

McSuper

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Let's potentially add this up...

Mcdavid 10 mil
Draisaitl 6 mil
Nurse 4 mil

That is just about 20 mil. (well really around 11 mil. less their current salaries) coming in the next 2 years.

Plus.... JP, Pitlick, Pak, Davidson.... and so on....

Cap problems are coming for sure

Did you forget we currently have almost 8 million in cap space ? With Ference gone this upcoming off season that is 11 million . Then Nurse has made huge leaps every year since he was drafted . He looks good this year compared to last . So lets assume he is ready to be paid 4 million you let Russell walk and his 3.1 million pays Nurse raise . So now you are still left with 11 million . The role players you mention will never make big money . Then there RNH and Eberle both could be moved . RNH for a bigger shut down C and Eberle when Puljujarvi is ready to fill his role . When you consider Pulju role this year he is a factor in the team winning but you can also see he has grown a ton already . It won't be long until he is pushing Eberle out the door .

Also maybe we should try to win something before worrying about futures
 

Jepprey

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They should trade McDavid to restock their prospect pool or they'll never make the playoffs.
 

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