Post-Game Talk: Oilers lose late to Vegas

[tardigrade81]

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Don't put his ugly mug on something I love. It's not Fair

 

[JeffSkinner53]

Should not have lost, but did. They need to figure this out.

@tardigrade81 we need you more than ever

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

We’ve had a relatively soft schedule to this point and 4 of the next 6 are against teams we should be destroying too.
We are blowing this.
We need more old goal scoring forwards in telling you!!

 

[tardigrade81]

@tardigrade81 we need you more than ever

I say we all sign a petition and until they put me in. We boycott this damn sport

Theyre gonna get another coach fired they don't need to! Just put me in and we will win our and clinch first place.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Mclelland
Hitchcock
Tippett
Woodcroft
Knoblauch
Insert name of next false scapegoat to blame here

So you're saying they should have never replaced a coach??

 

[KlimasLoveChild]

No worries guys, management has brought in Attard to save the day. Hopefully he is med chicken fueled.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

So you're saying they should have never replaced a coach??

Tippett was such an awful hire. He was already on his way out of the league. Hey, just like the last three GMs we hired!

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

So you're saying they should have never replaced a coach??

Ha no
But
We are almost running out of options! Ha ha
We are down to the Quennevilles, Peters, Babcocks of the world
Hell
Maybe Stan’s dad can be next or Keenan anyone?

 

[Echodek]

This team is by no means a Cup contender. At this point they look no better than a wild card team. If this continues I would be so concerned with cap accrual for the deadline , I’d be selling instead.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Let's be real here though, no way those guys get the same opportunities / minutes here. They'd be buried with the rest of the non-Country Club members.

McLeod and Foegele are getting 3rd line minutes and linemates…like they would here. Holloway is getting top 6 time which…we are giving Podkolzin top 6 minutes….
And Broberg would be playing in the top 4 on his off wing here too.
So what opportunities and minutes are they getting?

Oilers goalies are 88.5% and 88.6%... those are decent numbers in 1985 but now... not so much.

They are definitely part of the problem no matter how much people point out that the team can't score and can't PK and can't score on the PP either.

When everything is shit at the same time... you are going to likely have MANY problem players on the team and you can point the finger at basically everyone needing to be better.

What’s funny is if you look at the numbers our PK is actually doing very well, well the skaters are. Skinner is just shitting the bed.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

McLeod and Foegele are getting 3rd line minutes and linemates…like they would here. Holloway is getting top 6 time which…we are giving Podkolzin top 6 minutes….
And Broberg would be playing in the top 4 on his off wing here too.
So what opportunities and minutes are they getting?


What’s funny is if you look at the numbers our PK is actually doing very well, well the skaters are. Skinner is just shitting the bed.

So by this measure wouldn't that mean that Skinner was solely responsible for our amazing PK in the playoffs last year? Or are we not ready for that conversation?

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Why is this team so jekyl and Hyde every year with this core?

 

[CycloneSweep]

So by this measure wouldn't that mean that Skinner was solely responsible for our amazing PK in the playoffs last year? Or are we not ready for that conversation?

No? It would mean he played well enough that the great work by the skaters who limited chances a ton on the PK wasn’t wasted.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

No? It would mean he played well enough that the great work by the skaters who limited chances a ton on the PK wasn’t wasted.

Oh, I see. So he only gets the blame, none of the credit. I get it.

 

[Coffey]

No worries guys, management has brought in Attard to save the day. Hopefully he is med chicken fueled.

Shades of signing Brandon Manning

 

[CycloneSweep]

Oh, I see. So he only gets the blame, none of the credit. I get it.

No? You said by my logic he would solely get the credit which isn’t true. He was part of the PK being great in the playoffs but does get sole credit cause the team was limiting quality chances to near zero. Which they seem to again be doing this year but Skinner isn’t making routine saves. There have been a couple bad plays by the skaters but nothing glaring like the failed saves. Now if the pl group was playing bad and wasn’t limiting quality chances like they are, then of course the blame would be far more shared.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

No? You said by my logic he would solely get the credit which isn’t true. He was part of the PK being great in the playoffs but does get sole credit cause the team was limiting quality chances to near zero. Which they seem to again be doing this year but Skinner isn’t making routine saves. There have been a couple bad plays by the skaters but nothing glaring like the failed saves. Now if the pl group was playing bad and wasn’t limiting quality chances like they are, then of course the blame would be far more shared.

But everyone has regressed since last year, not just him. But he's the only one that's getting the blame. Where's the Brown/Janmark from the Cup Finals? Were Ceci/VD that great at PKing?

 

[CupofOil]

Should not have lost, but did. They need to figure this out.

The frustrating thing is that they aren't even playing poorly, I'd even say that they're playing pretty well at even strength but they've been so unclutch and that shooting percentage continues to be absurdly low.

I still maintain that there's no panic that should be had. This crazy low shooting percentage on a team with plenty of skill and poor PP and PK is bound to normalize. They'll go on a run at some point and likely soon. Long term though there will need to be an upgrade or two but this team is better than the record indicates IMO.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The frustrating thing is that they aren't even playing poorly, I'd even say that they're playing pretty well at even strength but they've been so unclutch and that shooting percentage continues to be absurdly low.

I still maintain that there's no panic that should be had. This crazy low shooting percentage on a team with plenty of skill and poor PP and PK is bound to normalize. They'll go on a run at some point and likely soon. Long term though there will need to be an upgrade or two but this team is better than the record indicates IMO.

Perhaps the reason their sh% is so low is because teams will happily let them take point shots all day long that have a zero percent chance of going in. There's no net front presence or going for rebounds. It's all fancy plays and passes that teams are wise to.

 

[CycloneSweep]

But everyone has regressed since last year, not just him. But he's the only one that's getting the blame. Where's the Brown/Janmark from the Cup Finals? Were Ceci/VD that great at PKing?

Yes the PK has regressed from the playoffs, that was an all time good PK.
The skaters are still playing good, not all time bad like it currently is. With average goaltending our PK should be middle of the pack.

 

[NeverForget06]

Lots of doom and gloom in here which would not be present with one more save from Stu or one less from Hill

One thing that I don’t think is untrue/overreaction - what is going on with the Nuge ???? Guy is lost this year

 

[Mez]

Something is just off with McDavid an it’s not the ankle, he has looked awful so far this year

Honestly, he is one of the top reasons for our struggles...this team is built around him, if he is shit we will be around .500 at best.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Bouchard has been ass this season. Lost us that one

 

[brentashton]

So you're saying they should have never replaced a coach??

Don’t be obtuse. I never said anything of the sort. You need to be mindful of not putting words in peoples’ mouths.

It goes back to the old adage that it’s easier to change the coach than the players but be clear. However, changing coaches is not creating the results they desire for the core of this team. Clearly the players own the majority of the lack of consistency in play and results. If they fire Knoblauch (and that would be asinine) and replace him mid season with Hakstol, Gallant , or, oh I don’t know, Quennevhlle should we expect all of their individual failings to suddenly be overcome?

Ya, not happening.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Some of our top players , Bouch, mcdavid have struggled. This team won’t go anywhere unless that changes. Team is built around those guys