Oilers hype: Is HF buying in on a 2024 run?

[mkatcherin00]

You brought it up , I don’t know why Oiler fans are getting so upset in a thread that is meant to analyze Edmontons upcoming season

You know what you do bud. You have nothing to look forward to. It's ok. Do you live in Surrey? Can you make rent?

You’re welcome. If 4 games are played and they unfold in different ways but none work out in your favor, it’s a form of domination. It’s not brut force domination but more like a cat playing with a mouse domination.

Having said that, the Oilers over the past two years are worthy of respect. They’ve been knocking at the door for a while. Their fans have a right to be optimistic.

See, this is a proper response. I have said the Oilers are not there up until now. Vegas was better

 

[WetcoastOrca]

You’re welcome. If 4 games are played and they unfold in different ways but none work out in your favor, it’s a form of domination. It’s not brut force domination but more like a cat playing with a mouse domination.

Having said that, the Oilers over the past two years are worthy of respect. They’ve been knocking at the door for a while. Their fans have a right to be optimistic.

I agree. From my vantage point both Colorado and Vegas were deep teams that peaked at the perfect time. No team was going to beat them. I will, however, give the Oilers credit for at least making a series out of the Vegas tilt (unlike the Colorado sweep). I thought they played well up until the final game when Vegas’ depth just took over.
Overall I just don’t think they have the depth, D or goaltending to beat the very best teams but McDrai can always go supernova and hide a lot of their faults. And the playoffs are hard to predict.

 

[Three On Zero]

You’re welcome. If 4 games are played and they unfold in different ways but none work out in your favor, it’s a form of domination. It’s not brut force domination but more like a cat playing with a mouse domination.

Having said that, the Oilers over the past two years are worthy of respect. They’ve been knocking at the door for a while. Their fans have a right to be optimistic.

Biggest issue is when Edmonton should be peaking the competition around them has just been better. Similar to Toronto in the East

 

[wetcoast]

I mean draisaitl and mcdavid might drag them to the finals but I don’t think their team as a whole is good enough

I think they are good enough every contending team has a weakness in the Cap world and having 2 horses and some excellent other core players along with a better mix this year will put them in contention.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Tell me which team outchanced the other and were up every single game? This isn't CGY that just chucks up shots without high danger chances or elite players.

Which team won tho? The better one.


According to NST the Flames out chanced the Oilers in their 2022 series btw. Both in high danger and regular scoring chances.

132-106 SC
50-40 HDSC

But I don't think you'll find too many fans that are holding on to that like a teddy bear.

 

[Pip]

Nothing is a sure thing but I see them having as good of odds as any of the serious contenders. Having a healthy Kane and adding Brown should hopefully keep them in a situation to have McDavid and Draisaitl mostly separated at evens. Assuming Ekholm’s injury isn’t too serious I think the d could hold up well enough. If the combination of Skinner/Campbell give them league average goaltending they’re a legitimate cup favourite. Part of the problem will be getting through Vegas and LA in the first 2 rounds again if they don’t win the division. That’s a slog against 2 really difficult opponents.

Definitely not a perfect team but I don’t see a perfect team out there. If they could maneuver the deadline to add another quality defenseman that could put them over the top.

 

[Akrapovince]

‘Skinner and Campbell has as much of a chance to go hot for 7 games as any goalie in the world.’
Not sure if you’re serious. There are a lot of goalies with a much better chance of going hot than this duo.

I was serious and worded it wrong, they have the ability to, not as good of a chance. My mistake.

 

[mkatcherin00]

Which team won tho? The better one.


According to NST the Flames out chanced the Oilers in their 2022 series btw. Both in high danger and regular scoring chances.

132-106 SC
50-40 HDSC

But I don't think you'll find too many fans that are holding on to that like a teddy bear.

and according to the eye tests, the big dawgs destroyed the other team. CGY has no top tier players, thats why they couldnt get it done

 

[mkatcherin00]

and according to the eye tests, the big dawgs destroyed the other team. CGY has no top tier players, thats why they couldnt get it done

Hockey is a hard game. Teams like Vancouver suck hard.

 

[Akrapovince]

Which team won tho? The better one.


According to NST the Flames out chanced the Oilers in their 2022 series btw. Both in high danger and regular scoring chances.

132-106 SC
50-40 HDSC

But I don't think you'll find too many fans that are holding on to that like a teddy bear.

When you have Draisatl shooting on those high danger chances and McDavid on the two on ones and breakaways, I’ll take a single of their scoring chance over 3-5 off of anyone on the Flames.

 

[Osakahaus]

IMHO, if Colorado can get healthy and stay healthy, they are going to be a monster this season that they were not last season because of injuries, and would not be a cakewalk for anybody in the WCF. Dallas will probably improve as well in DeBoer's second season with the team now familiar with his system. Back in the Pacific, also not sure why everybody is so quick to overlook the Kraken who were playing some very good hockey by the end of last season.

Colorado is a very interesting team, but I dont trust that depth still. They need to get creative or hope a prospect or two takes off.

 

[Heldig]

Oilers have 2 of the top 3 players in the world and have done a very good job of building up the roster (Kane, Brown, Hyman, keeping RNH at a team friendly deal, Ekholm). If the NHL refs call penalties in the playoffs the Oilers probably win the Cup.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Not really.

He carries a $5,125,000 cap hit and paced for 56 points last year. I wouldnt say hes underpaid at all.

RNH might look underpaid on paper, but he was apart of the best power play int ecent NHL history. If he pulls off multiple high scoring seasons, you might have an argument.

Nuge is like a 7 million man right now. Before the 100 point season. Plays C in all roles. Will play wing and he is a great power play player

Just my opinion.

Kane was making 7 mill and I think he also is around that.

Huge for them getting UFAs taking discounts makes up for Nurse. Imo neutral.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Which team won tho? The better one.


According to NST the Flames out chanced the Oilers in their 2022 series btw. Both in high danger and regular scoring chances.

132-106 SC
50-40 HDSC

But I don't think you'll find too many fans that are holding on to that like a teddy bear.

because Markstrom was absolute dogshit

this is nothing new

 

[Skolman]

Not really.

He carries a $5,125,000 cap hit and paced for 56 points last year. I wouldnt say hes underpaid at all.

RNH might look underpaid on paper, but he was apart of the best power play int ecent NHL history. If he pulls off multiple high scoring seasons, you might have an argument.

Scheifele just signed for 8.5 mil per season, money he will recieve from 31 years old to 38 years old. RNH signed his 8 year deal at 28 years old if I'm not mistaken, which will take him to 36 years old.

Scheifele is better than RNH obviously, but not as much as their salaries suggest.

 

[hirawl]

They just need a team full of guys buying into what they do. That's basically these two fellows don't do D and they get all the minutes. Play your asses off for them thank you. Come playoff time you then totally need to step it up because the two don't really have another gear.

 

[zar]

Like any SC winner… if they get a few breaks, stay healthy and every player plays close to their true best (offensively and defensively), they will be tough to beat. That’s what it takes to win the ultimate team championship.

I have a strong belief you will see a different McDavid and Draisaitl this year with respect to their 200 ft game. It might not be there from day one but more so a development throughout the season.

 

[Chet Manley]

Everything has to go right. I like Ceci, Bouchard, Campbell, and Skinner well enough individually but they are still a huge question mark as a group when put in prominent roles against other SC contenders. Suppose there are no flawless teams right now so maybe the above is overstated.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Colorado is a very interesting team, but I dont trust that depth still. They need to get creative or hope a prospect or two takes off.

It will be a very interesting year for them. On the one hand, they're still not the same team without Kadri and they seem to have some lingering health issues, but on the other the Central Division seems to be very weak but for Dallas and Colorado does have some awesome top-line talent and they do have very recent Cup champion experience which is a force multiplier.

FWIW, as a VGK fan it is the Avs who concern me the most in the West, albeit at this very early point in the season. I think the Knights now know how to successfully handle the Oilers and the Stars, who really didn't change all that much during the off-season, but the Avs are a giant question mark.

Will definitely re-evaluate after the TDL.

 

[Bank Shot]

It will be a very interesting year for them. On the one hand, they're still not the same team without Kadri and they seem to have some lingering health issues, but on the other the Central Division seems to be very weak but for Dallas and Colorado does have some awesome top-line talent and they do have very recent Cup champion experience which is a force multiplier.

FWIW, as a VGK fan it is the Avs who concern me the most in the West, albeit at this very early point in the season. I think the Knights now know how to successfully handle the Oilers and the Stars, who really didn't change all that much during the off-season, but the Avs are a giant question mark.

Will definitely re-evaluate after the TDL.

I don't think Vegas can count on unsustainable shooting and save % in the playoffs again this year.

 

[Skolman]

It will be a very interesting year for them. On the one hand, they're still not the same team without Kadri and they seem to have some lingering health issues, but on the other the Central Division seems to be very weak but for Dallas and Colorado does have some awesome top-line talent and they do have very recent Cup champion experience which is a force multiplier.

FWIW, as a VGK fan it is the Avs who concern me the most in the West, albeit at this very early point in the season. I think the Knights now know how to successfully handle the Oilers and the Stars, who really didn't change all that much during the off-season, but the Avs are a giant question mark.

Will definitely re-evaluate after the TDL.

Come on man...

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Vegas won the cup last year because for one, their blueline was rock solid 1-6. All 6 guys were big, mobile and can clear the front of the net. Two #1 defenseman, and the rest of the d-core was solid defensively and smart with the puck.

Ironically, what do you know, it’s very similar to how the Avs won the cup the previous year. Again Having two #1 defensemen, and just rock solid 1-6. All 6 guys could move the puck and clear the front of the net.

The Oilers are nothing like the last two cup winners bluelines. Cody Ceci wouldn’t even crack either the Vegas or the Avs bluelines.

 

[TheRumble]

I'm going to describe a team to you guys and you tell me what team I'm describing.

- They had the league's best powerplay
- They were the league's top offensive team
- They had middling defensive metrics
- Relied on good goaltending to win tight games
- In the playoffs, they ran into a team that didn't take a lot of penalties and it crippled their biggest offensive advantage, the powerplay.

What team am I describing?

It's a trick question, I'm describing multiple teams:

- The Mike Babcock coached Maple Leafs
- The late 2000's to early 2010's Washington Capitals
- The early 2020 Oilers

Do with that what you will.

 

[Bank Shot]

I'm going to describe a team to you guys and you tell me what team I'm describing.

- They had the league's best powerplay
- They were the league's top offensive team
- They had middling defensive metrics
- Relied on good goaltending to win tight games
- In the playoffs, they ran into a team that didn't take a lot of penalties and it crippled their biggest offensive advantage, the powerplay.

What team am I describing?

It's a trick question, I'm describing multiple teams:

- The Mike Babcock coached Maple Leafs
- The late 2000's to early 2010's Washington Capitals
- The early 2020 Oilers

Do with that what you will.

Describes the 16/17 Penguins and 17/18 Caps pretty well.

They both won the Cup.

There is obviously different paths to winning.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Vegas won the cup last year because for one, their blueline was rock solid 1-6. All 6 guys were big, mobile and can clear the front of the net. Two #1 defenseman, and the rest of the d-core was solid defensively and smart with the puck.

Ironically, what do you know, it’s very similar to how the Avs won the cup the previous year. Again Having two #1 defensemen, and just rock solid 1-6. All 6 guys could move the puck and clear the front of the net.

The Oilers are nothing like the last two cup winners bluelines. Cody Ceci wouldn’t even crack either the Vegas or the Avs bluelines.

Lol come on, Jack Johnson was playing for the Avs.