McPoyle
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Rent free.It’s no different than the “Montreal top D thread”, it’s the off season and people only find a few things worth talking about. Far from “rent free” for discussing topics on a hockey forum
Oilers hype: Is HF buying in on a 2024 run?
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blundluntman
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Yup, the nonexistent diving and mythological lack of backchecking is definitely why Skinner and Campbell posted sub .900 sv %s. It's all McDavid's fault
McPoyle
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Not sure why you are denying it. 12 pages after 1 day. No other team generates this amount of discussion
Its ok 3-0, you are obsessed with an NHL team and spend lots of time online talking about them.
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It’s easy, when comments like yours repeatedly take more aim at posters than the actual topic, it’s easy to get a thread that’s filled with 70% on topic posts and 30% drivel. It just proves that a fan base can’t take the open criticism about their team going into this season. Now perhaps since you keep bringing me up I must live rent free in your head?
. Anyways back to the actual topic of the thread
RipsADrive
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HF is stuck using the same material against the Oilers from a decade ago that is pretty outdated.
I'm not really too worried about the roster. The team has elite talent at the top and depth at every position. Weakest spot in the roster is goaltending which is serviceable and we've seen in the last few years that it doesn't require an elite goaltender to win the cup. Oilers are also not in LTIR for the first time in a long time so some cap space can be gained for an add at the deadline.
Biggest question for the Oilers is their mentality which @Lacaar detailed a bit earlier. Oilers are prone to falling asleep with a lead and coughing it up and are unable to stop the snowball once it gets rolling against them and panic sets in. They also have a bad habit of overlooking teams ranked lower than them and giving away points / games that they really shouldn't.
To answer the question in the OP, I say yes. I think the Oilers are among the teams you can make a case for going all the way without stretching hypotheticals too far which puts them in the contender category, but I wouldn't go so far as to call them the favourite. In a league with as much parity as the NHL, I think it would take an amazingly well built and talented team to really stand out from the pack and that's not the Oilers.
Injuries are, of course, the big X factor in this discussion. The Oilers are absolutely screwed if the injuries pile up at the top of the lineup but there are very few teams (if any) that you can't say that about.
I'm not really too worried about the roster. The team has elite talent at the top and depth at every position. Weakest spot in the roster is goaltending which is serviceable and we've seen in the last few years that it doesn't require an elite goaltender to win the cup. Oilers are also not in LTIR for the first time in a long time so some cap space can be gained for an add at the deadline.
Biggest question for the Oilers is their mentality which @Lacaar detailed a bit earlier. Oilers are prone to falling asleep with a lead and coughing it up and are unable to stop the snowball once it gets rolling against them and panic sets in. They also have a bad habit of overlooking teams ranked lower than them and giving away points / games that they really shouldn't.
To answer the question in the OP, I say yes. I think the Oilers are among the teams you can make a case for going all the way without stretching hypotheticals too far which puts them in the contender category, but I wouldn't go so far as to call them the favourite. In a league with as much parity as the NHL, I think it would take an amazingly well built and talented team to really stand out from the pack and that's not the Oilers.
Injuries are, of course, the big X factor in this discussion. The Oilers are absolutely screwed if the injuries pile up at the top of the lineup but there are very few teams (if any) that you can't say that about.
McPoyle
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You responded to me first. So that is nonsense. Im simply providing information as to why I think the Oilers are rent free in lots (including yours) heads. I dont care about criticism so not sure why you bring that up. Im just commenting on the volume of comments. This is all pretty simple stuff 3-0.It’s easy, when comments like yours repeatedly take more aim at posters than the actual topic, it’s easy to get a thread that’s filled with 70% on topic posts and 30% drivel. It just proves that a fan base can’t take the open criticism about their team going into this season. Now perhaps since you keep bringing me up I must live rent free in your head?
SeanMoneyHands
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I think Edmonton is fine taking their chances with Campbell and Skinner. I believe if you put Skinner or Campbell on the Knights team last playoffs, they likely still win the cup. Vegas (even Colorado the year before) proved that with an elite blueline you can win with below average goalies because you make your goalies look better than they really are.
They really need to add a high impact, highly intelligent defenseman who can eat 28 mins a night who is smart with the puck and can control the play at both ends of the ice. Nurse ain’t that guy. They don’t have a Pietrangelo. Nurse and Ekholm aren’t even close. Because of what Nurse makes, the only way to do this is by trading Nurse for a major upgrade like Roman Josi. But Nurses contract is unmovable without serious retention.
They really need to add a high impact, highly intelligent defenseman who can eat 28 mins a night who is smart with the puck and can control the play at both ends of the ice. Nurse ain’t that guy. They don’t have a Pietrangelo. Nurse and Ekholm aren’t even close. Because of what Nurse makes, the only way to do this is by trading Nurse for a major upgrade like Roman Josi. But Nurses contract is unmovable without serious retention.
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If you're good enough to make the play-off's, regular season injuries don't really matter IMO, as long as guys are not hampered come play-off time. I get that no one is 100% come the conference finals and Stanley Cup finals, but it's about who gets injured, and how much it hampers their ability to contribute. Last year in the finals, FLA had 3 of their most important players hobbled by injuries even if they were still playing.
Bank Shot
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Oilers rent free in 3-0's head because he spends 8 hour per day on HFboards talking about them.
‘Stone scored hat trick in Game 5 of Stanley Cup Final with fractured wrist’
Stone said he "took a whack" to his left wrist in the first period of Vegas' Cup-clinching contest and had to take "a few things in between periods" so that he could play through it.
Despite the ailment, Stone scored in each stanza of the Golden Knights' 9-3 shellacking of the Florida Panthers - including a one-timer in the second period and an empty-netter in the third frame - to complete the first hat trick in a Stanley Cup Final since Peter Forsberg in 1996.
Stone went on to celebrate winning Lord Stanley's Mug, and he emphasized that he had to be "dialled in to lift the trophy," injury be damned.
"I made sure I wasn't feeling much in the wrist during that celebration," Stone joked.
He added, "You never know when you're gonna win again, right? You might never win. While you're there, you gotta give it a try."
Terrible goaltending. Terrible defence.
They are a McDavid injury away from not making the playoffs at all.
They are a McDavid injury away from not making the playoffs at all.
ChaoticOrange
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As an Oiler fan, I think they’re a cup threat, but not a favourite yet. They need to upgrade on Ceci and have their goaltending take a step before they are.
Beukeboom Fan
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I'm not saying that LV didn't have injuries. They had an amazing team and were able to overcome all obstacles, which obviously included guys playing hurt. I felt like they were a better team than FLA, and IMO they were just less hampered by injuries than the Panthers. I do know that Tkachuk had a broken sternum, and it's absolutely mind-boggling to me that he was able to play. I know that Ekblad and Montour were signficantly hampered as well.
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Woodcroft needs to learn from some of his mistakes last season as well, the man thought he was the smartest person in the rink and it ultimately cost him. He couldn’t adapt to the situation that was in front of him and just kept trying the same thing over and over again. Campbell looked good enough to start when Skinner was getting shelled but he refused to make their switch
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Yeah that Tkachuk injury was definitely a killer.
But other than that one, I’d say both teams had significant injuries. I didn’t bother searching all of Vegas’ injuries. I do know that Vegas was on their third string goalie.
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CantHaveTkachev
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probably because there's a ton of Oilers fans, particularly on HF...and most are quite passionate thus posters troll to get a rise from us
I mean, outside of laughing at the miserable franchise that is the Canucks have been for 50+ years for example, does anyone really give a shit about that team? not really
the Oilers matter
Luigi Lemieux
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They're not too differently built from the 2009 penguins. Just need to avoid a few teams (Colorado and Vegas) and get some favorable matchups.
Pens that year managed to avoid Boston and NJ, who imo they would have lost to. And got a beat up Detroit in the finals.
Right now Edmonton's an "if everything goes right" type of contender. Not a "will destroy anyone in their path" contender.
Pens that year managed to avoid Boston and NJ, who imo they would have lost to. And got a beat up Detroit in the finals.
Right now Edmonton's an "if everything goes right" type of contender. Not a "will destroy anyone in their path" contender.
Mikeaveli
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The Oilers have been the laughing stock of the nhl since 2007 lol
TheNumber4
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It took awhile, but it’s looking like Campbell may finally get his post-Leaf’s performance bump. And if that happens, the analysts are 100% right for calling for an Oilers Cup this year.
mkatcherin00
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One of the few times I can agree with the #1 Oilers hater
mkatcherin00
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This is like that embarrassing 2011 Canucks, who took diving to another level.
They were very good. One of the best teams we have seen in ages.
They choked it away though. Leaders were chokers. Dived like no tomorrow. Burrow, Kesler, Lapierre. Gutless team. People hate good teams. They hate hearing about them non stop.
If Campbell even does 910, the Oilers are laughing
That is what scares everybody
oXo Cube
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The Oilers didn't lose to Vegas because of depth scoring. They lost because Draisaitl got lit up to the tune of 4-9 ES(1-6 after game 3) despite the fact that he enjoyed a 58-42 percent scoring chance share in those minutes. Basically anyone that Edmonton matched up against Eichel got wrecked.
Vegas got good goaltending and Edmonton got the opposite which is fair play in a playoff series and it's also fair play to question Edmonton's goalies going forward given that they're running back the same tandem.
Vegas got good goaltending and Edmonton got the opposite which is fair play in a playoff series and it's also fair play to question Edmonton's goalies going forward given that they're running back the same tandem.
mkatcherin00
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Can't disagree with this take. Draisaitl was not good those last few games. Having his arm chopped didn't help the last ones as well. He is one of the last guys I would blame in the end.
I am curious to see if any Edmonton scrub deals it back to Alex. Only costs 1 game
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Look to be fair the most significant change we made personal wise wasn't on the ice, but getting rid of Debeor was a huge step forward, followed by signing Cassidy, even if we still get a period off a game to still go golfing.
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