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[Canovin]

I never heard that he was unilling to play on the right side. Its more like anyone could see that this was not a proper way to develop a player with Borbergs potential and it should have ended much sooner than it did.
If the Oilers wanted to maximize Brobergs skillset then play him on his natural side.
They couldnt though because Holland could never address the weakness on the right side.
Therefore the Borberg on the right side experiement continued on...to his detriment.

Broberg isnt a dummy...he could see that he was being mishandled.
I dont blame him a bit for wanting to make sure that he had a better situation in which to become the player he believes he is.
That just wasnt going to happen with the Oilers and Borberg could obviously read the writing on the wall.

If he doesn't get what he wants from his parents. Does he question if he's being handled properly? Not every organization is out there to screw over the kids. I've said this before. Broberg should look at his experience with ups and downs and in the end, it should be fondness. He became a better player out of it.

 

[oXo Cube]

What do you think those guys were worth in trade? I don't think either were worth a 1st anymore.

I genuinely believe that a 2nd round pick in the upcoming draft from a team more likely to miss the playoffs than make them would have been a pretty good trade return for Broberg given his career results. Far as I'm concerned the Oilers just plain did well here.

Holloway was more valuable than a third I doubt there will be much of any disagreement on that.

 

[guymez]

Because he wasn’t good enough to play on the left side here above our guys so they tried to find him room somehow. Contending teams don’t just move out better players in the hopes that a prospect will be as good.

Nonsense.
The team didnt provide nearly enough opportunity for Borberg to get his fooing on his natural side.
So they solution for them was to make things even harder for the player (a developing player) and make him play on his off wing.
Its laughable.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I genuinely believe that a 2nd round pick in the upcoming draft from a team more likely to miss the playoffs than make them would have been a pretty good trade return for Broberg given his career results. Far as I'm concerned the Oilers just plain did well here.

Holloway was more valuable than a third I doubt there will be much of any disagreement on that.

I agree that Holloway without his contract was worth more than a 3rd. Holloway at 2.3M? I'm not sure on his value there.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Is there a press conference at 11? I thought I saw Bowman was having availability, or is it just some media questions?

Why? "Hey Oiler fans you just got f***ed... go to HF if you want to see some serious cope."

No Matter what the outcome was it's the Oilers getting f***ed hard under the Bettman regime yet again.

 

[kevy9999]

Agreed. The team is pretty significantly worse on D now, and marginally worse at forward. The D isn't so bad that we won't make playoffs or anything crazy like that, but winning the division likely won't happen with our current D setup. We probably don't win a playoff round with current D either. The only things I can think of is that Kane isn't actually needing LTIR or that we have a trade in place for a D using

Lol have a meltdown yet? We will be fine. Nothing we lost recently will make us worse in any way going forward. We will plug in more pieces as season goes along.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Nonsense.
The team didnt provide nearly enough opportunity for Borberg to get his fooing on his natural side.
So they solution for them was to make things even harder for the player (a developing player) and make him play on his off wing.
Its laughable.

So we should have moved Kulak and hoped Broberg would be as good and was able to take tough minutes from Nurse like Kulak was doing?
What contender does that for a player who has done f*** all to earn it?

 

[Cerebral]

Why? "Hey Oiler fans you just got f***ed... go to HF if you want to see some serious cope."

To see if Bowman says he is comfortable with the current blue line or looking to make some moves prior to the start of training camp. Looks like you'll need to change your user name to Emberson Speed.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Nonsense.
The team didnt provide nearly enough opportunity for Borberg to get his fooing on his natural side.
So they solution for them was to make things even harder for the player (a developing player) and make him play on his off wing.
Its laughable.

What else could they have done though? They aren't bumping out Nurse or Ekholm. Kulak is the anchor on the third pair, to scratch him or move him to the right side to make room for a rookie would be weird. Broberg never earned his way into the lineup on his natural side.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

To see if Bowman says he is comfortable with the current blue line or looking to make some moves prior to the start of training camp. Looks like you'll need to change your user name to Emberson Speed.

The media will give him softball questions that he'll have canned answers to. "We're happy with our lineup but we are always looking to improve" and such.

 

[Drivesaitl]

By all accounts it's a confidence thing. He was playing worried about making a mistake...which we've all seen before and how it can affect how they play. Maybe a change of scenery and coaching can unlock the player. JT Miller had nothing but praise for his ability and ceiling.

Its a fair comment but "don't give a shit" also entered radar. Could be just the way I'm perceiving the player.

That said Nucks are a strange org and a lot of players feeling sorry for themselves and suffering with confidence and struggling and even Pettersson. My take is Boudreau the crying coach grew some babies over there. So that having Tocchet now was a shock to some of the players. Who knows, Nucks are a strange bunch to figure out.

I have to get over my intense dislike for any Nuck player I guess...

 

[Nunymare]

Paying Broberg and Holloway a combined 7 million next year would have been inexcusable for a contender.
It was a no win scenario. At least now we have cap space to acrue and improve the team at the deadline

This seems to be conveniently forgotten by a lot of people in here losing their minds about this.

 

[McHelpus]

Why? "Hey Oiler fans you just got f***ed... go to HF if you want to see some serious cope."

Yeah I don't think having a press conference for this would be wise, it would entertaining though.

 

[guymez]

If he doesn't get what he wants from his parents. Does he question if he's being handled properly? Not every organization is out there to screw over the kids. I've said this before. Broberg should look at his experience with ups and downs and in the end, it should be fondness. He became a better player out of it.

I dont think that this is an applicable comparable.

The Oilers had invested a very high draft pick by choosing Broberg. He was an excllent skater who saw the ice really well. It would have been proper to nuture his strenghts as a player and maximise his potential to help the team. Instead of trying to plug him into a situation to compensate for a lack of proper depth.
What sense does it make to force him to play his off wing in the hardest League in the world just because the teams RHD depth sucked?

 

[Broberg Speed]

Yeah I don't think having a press conference for this would be wise, it would entertaining though.

For everyone but Oiler fans.

 

[ManofSteel55]

The media will give him softball questions that he'll have canned answers to. "We're happy with our lineup but we are always looking to improve" and such.

"We added a couple of good young players in the last few days to lessen the impact of this. I think we did well."

 

[Seachd]

Why? "Hey Oiler fans you just got f***ed... go to HF if you want to see some serious cope."

No Matter what the outcome was it's the Oilers getting f***ed hard under the Bettman regime yet again.

You think offer sheets are a Bettman thing? And the Oilers got screwed?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

For everybody but Oiler fans.

Maybe they'll add to the collection of legendarily bad press conferences with such hits as "six rings" and "can't squeeze GMs".

 

[The Nuge]

What else could they have done though? They aren't bumping out Nurse or Ekholm. Kulak is the anchor on the third pair, to scratch him or move him to the right side to make room for a rookie would be weird. Broberg never earned his way into the lineup on his natural side.

Ya he just simply wasn’t good enough to force any of our LD out of a spot. We’re not a rebuilding team that’s giving your guys a shot. We’re trying to win, and Broberg playing on the left side in the past would have resulted in the team being worse

 

[guymez]

So we should have moved Kulak and hoped Broberg would be as good and was able to take tough minutes from Nurse like Kulak was doing?
What contender does that for a player who has done f*** all to earn it?

No.
The team should have addressed the RHD issue seperately and not f**k up Borbergs development by trying to have him fix the issue.

 

[ManofSteel55]

No.
The team should have addressed the RHD issue seperately and not f**k up Borbergs development by trying to have him fix the issue.

So you're saying we should have traded Kulak to make room for Broberg then? Trading Nurse isn't possible, and obviously Ekholm's role is too large for Broberg, so that's really the only option, right?

 

[Captain Fantastic]

This seems to be conveniently forgotten by a lot of people in here losing their minds about this.

Maybe it's also because the Oilers org. are always a clown show waiting to happen. Oilers giveth and taketh.. always

 

[Broberg Speed]

What else could they have done though? They aren't bumping out Nurse or Ekholm. Kulak is the anchor on the third pair, to scratch him or move him to the right side to make room for a rookie would be weird. Broberg never earned his way into the lineup on his natural side.

Don't tell me you're a playoff Kulak bro. That was the guy to be jettisoned long ago if Broberg was to be properly developed and retained by the Oilers.

hf gang gang strikes again

 

[Canovin]

I dont think that this is an applicable comparable.

The Oilers had invested a very high draft pick by choosing Broberg. He was an excllent skater who saw the ice really well. It would have been proper to nuture his strenghts as a player and maximise his potential to help the team. Instead of trying to plug him into a situation to compensate for a alck of proper depth.
What sense does it make to force him to play his off wing in the hardest League in the world just because the teams RHD depth sucked?

Even McDavid had to start in the middle six and work his way up and playing with the likes of Pouliot and Yak. Sure he got there faster cause he had earned it. A generational talent still had to prove himself. Broberg was given his spot and never ran with it. Got to further develop in the AHL.
Why Broberg is upset playing on the offside in the NHL is head scratching? Like why is he upset with that?

 

[McBooya42]

Its a fair comment but "don't give a shit" also entered radar. Could be just the way I'm perceiving the player.

That said Nucks are a strange org and a lot of players feeling sorry for themselves and suffering with confidence and struggling and even Pettersson. My take is Boudreau the crying coach grew some babies over there. So that having Tocchet now was a shock to some of the players. Who knows, Nucks are a strange bunch to figure out.

I have to get over my intense dislike for any Nuck player I guess...

Fair points lol. Here's hoping that our coaches can find a balance that he can succeed with. He's got the toolset.