Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[bobbythebrain]

How do you know this to be the case? Its counter to everything thats been coming out recently.

Recently? This was 100% started on FA day when Jackson spent the cap and there needed to be a narrative to justify it.

Edm fans and media flocked to this like toilet paper during covid

 

[guymez]

Ceci also isn’t a top 4 D, Stecher did fine when playing with nurse last year.

The D isnt good enough IMO.

 

[McHelpus]

Depends on what you want

Smooth skaters: Fabbro. Jokiharju
Crease clearers: Larsson, Savard, Murphy, Gudbranson, whatever is going on with Hakanpaa

These guys are all garbage.

 

[oilcountry17]

Glad they went unmatched, don't need them coming back into the locker room after grabbing the bag when this team is so close to a the cap and b the end goal winning a cup.

 

[MoontoScott]

Rishaug on a roll this morning:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825896268696269017

Give the man credit for realizing that Cap Space is King.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

It may very well be that Ceci is a deadline addition and retained. By all accounts the players loved him and it won’t hurt to have him play bottom pair at 50% retained for the postseason. Sharks are more than likely moving him.

We are just storing him in California until we can afford him.

Not possible to trade for ceci with retention for the Oilers

 

[Canovin]

We need Beau Akey to spend 3 days in the hyperbolic time chamber

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The guy? Yeah the guy you know nothing about.


Or the guy who would have been playing in Ceci’s spot in the playoffs if he didn’t need ankle surgery.

Being mad that we don’t have a championship defense and linking that to losing Ceci is complete nonsense.

Stecher was hurt, you say? Hmmm... He doesn't exactly have a history of playing an entire season over the past few years. Only two seasons over 60 games.

 

[Mr Positive]

Rishaug on a roll this morning:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825896268696269017

Imo the glaring hole on the back end is okay. We need to find the RD version of Ekholm, and not just settle for what is there like we did with Campbell. And in the mean time trying out some players there is okay. Maybe Emerson can find another gear.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Honestly, the goal now is to just make the playoffs. Winning the division is a pipe dream with our current D. Sucks, but it what it is.

Luckily the Pacific division just keeps getting worse. Should end up 3rd at worst behind Vancouver and Vegas.

 

[CycloneSweep]

It's not but they did play the entire season and most of the playoffs with...

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Desharnais

I don't think anybody would have tabbed that as a Cup caliber defense going into the season.

I don't think Ceci to Emberson and Desharnais to Stecher is a big loss in the short term. It's losing the growth potential of Broberg that could really sting.

They did and that defense almost single handedly lost then every round but the PK structure saved them.

The bright side is that they seem to be wanted to bring in the best d possible at the deadline, its just going to be a potentially very rough few months defensively until we get there. There is a small chance it won't be but the forwards and the top pair are going to have to carry the load.

 

[MoontoScott]

So make more salary cap miscues by signing 2 completely unproven prospects to 2-2.5x their value?

I think they made the right move today.

 

[Mr Sakich]

I don't think there is a single advances stat number that defines players, some people have tried but the results are always peculiar.

One to consider is Corsi as that is a pretty simple measure. Using Corsi, the Oilers have moved on from their 6th, 7th, and 8th best defensemen from last year. IMO, you should do that almost every year.

One other thing to consider, the overwhelming need on defence is to find a suitable partner for Nurse. I wish someone would deep dive to see who he had success with. It certainly wasn't Ceci and it wasn't going to be an off winged Broberg. We have until the trade deadline to figure that one out.

 

[KlimasLoveChild]

The Emberson move being so far out of left field has to be a Knob referral. He must feel this guy can handle top four minutes at a high level right now. I feel comfortable with his judgement.

 

[48g90a138pts]

So the Oilers got Paul Fischer from the Blues

 

[CupofOil]

They better find one soon. If their solution is "Wait until the trade deadline" then Bowman can take a hike.

That's not going to happen or at least I'd be shocked if it happened. Nobody is trading a top 4 Dman before the season or even in season until teams become sellers.

 

[guymez]

It's not but they did play the entire season and most of the playoffs with...

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Desharnais

I don't think anybody would have tabbed that as a Cup caliber defense going into the season.

I don't think Ceci to Emberson and Desharnais to Stecher is a big loss in the short term. It's losing the growth potential of Broberg that could really sting.

I wasnt a defender of Ceci but I do think that he took the heat for a very undewhelming Darnell Nurse much of the time.
The bottom 4 on this team wasnt particularily good last season (I do like Kulak as a #5 though) and its been downgraded this season.
It has to be improved IMO.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

I know its not much but I give them credit for trying to get as many picks and prospects back as they can.

Holland spent a lot of picks and rarely ever got any back.

Blues fan coming in peace.

Just here to say that Fischer part of the deal shouldn't be overlooked. He was actually one of the ones many expected to eventually to develop into a full time NHLer, possbily a 4-5 D.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Depends on what you want

Smooth skaters: Fabbro. Jokiharju
Crease clearers: Larsson, Savard, Murphy, Gudbranson, whatever is going on with Hakanpaa

Yikes

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

That's not going to happen or at least I'd be shocked if it happened. Nobody is trading a top 4 Dman before the season or even in season until teams become sellers.

Cool, hope the team wins the division with that defense.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Rishaug on a roll this morning:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825896268696269017

LMAO!! Edm media abandoning the Kane narrative like it never existed. Just embarrassing as usual

 

[alphahelix]

Imagine if the oilers just went out and landed 2 young top 15 picks with cup experience for just a couple middling picks and cap space. Imagine if they did that back in like 2016? We would have burnt the city down in celebration.

It was always “You have to trade the league MVP to get Adam Larsson” type rhetoric when we needed a D-man, but now its “Oh yea, just flip a couple bucks and a 2nd”

The Oilers are Player Value Anti-Matter. We are an eternal black hole.
Hard to believe we exist at all at this point. Something in the water, the resilience of fans..

 

[McDrai]

Rishaug on a roll this morning:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825896268696269017

Well Rishaug does love breaking “bad” news so I’m not surprised he is on a roll today. He probably beat his meat when St.Louis put in the offer sheets last week

 

[Mr Positive]

The Emberson move being so far out of left field has to be a Knob referral. He must feel this guy can handle top four minutes at a high level right now. I feel comfortable with his judgement.

He's a defensive D, so a good Ceci replacement. Imo he should fit into the system. I suspect he is a good placeholder for the real move to come later

 

[oXo Cube]

OK so I'm board with the opinion that this is a defense that needs an upgrade.

But you guys think Broberg at 300% of his projected value was the answer here?