Post-Game Talk: Oilers die on the Hill

TheNumber4

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Skinner named second star. What?

Hopefully more of these games can convince our management to get serious about a goalie.

The crew is talking about Skinner playing better lately, while he has a .890 save percentage. Since when is that considered good?
Key word: “lately”

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oobga

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You gotta be kidding me with this shit. Vegas were terrified all night of our relentless attack and losing pucks all over. it was a putrid game by the KNights and the only thing they figured out is how to pay off the officials so theres no PP's all game and just be able to hold and interfere all night. The game you watched was half rugby. Vegas were putrid in this game. panicking for the entire 3rd period. From the Vegas POV what portion of the game, any, did they actually control?

Yup, these are the kinds of games that make the NHL a joke league. It makes no sense at all to let a regular season game in December devolve into the kind of crap that they let a game in the cup finals be (which is a joke too honestly). Just a huge dump taken on the entertainment value fans of both teams deserve in such a low stakes game.

The inconsistency in general of NHL refing being on display is notable as well. These kinds of games just keep up confusion among players of when rules do and don't matter.
 

Soundwave

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Its why We've never won the division too. Its hard to win a cup having the 2nd best goaltender through all 4 rounds to add insult to injury. McDrais careers are going to shxxx as long as we don't find anyone better than Skinner. It is what it is.

Yep, they'll never win the division and thus have to battle through not having home ice in large part because the management groups here don't give a f*** about goaltending and/or find it too hard and just put their head in the sand and pretend whatever they have is good enough.
 

Drivesaitl

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no....not scoring a f***ing goal is the reason we didn't get a point
Math is hard. Skinner had basically nothing to do today. He botched the 2nd shot on goal and the 3rd shot luckily found the goal post. He made his one save of the night on Turtle but as per usual sells it as if it was a magnificent save waving his glove high. Such an actor. Turtle blew that chance. Eichel couldn't even take or make a pass tonight. Vegas had NOTHING.
 
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I don't disagree with the first point, but I honestly think VGK know precisely how to dismantle this team. They don't try to dominate or go for the knockout, they let the Oilers push possession, but keep it to the outside. They bide time to strike on the counter when a d-man f***s up or a forward makes a dumb no-look touch pass.

Cassidy realizes that the Oilers are their own worst enemies, and that if they can just clog the middle and keep the Oilers to the boards, that the Oilers are happy to just cycle and take wide angled shots. Eventually someone will f*** up and then they strike.
Oh they do. They played a smart, extremely patient game. They waited for a classic Oilers f***up and bang, they win.

You gotta be kidding me with this shit. Vegas were terrified all night of our relentless attack and losing pucks all over. it was a putrid game by the KNights and the only thing they figured out is how to pay off the officials so theres no PP's all game and just be able to hold and interfere all night. The game you watched was half rugby. Vegas were putrid in this game. panicking for the entire 3rd period. From the Vegas POV what portion of the game, any, did they actually control?
Terrified of what, exactly? Brown's stone hands? McDavid and Draisatl's absolute refusal to shoot in prime scoring areas? The absolute abyss that is our bottom six forwards? Nurse's bakery?

They were never once in danger of losing the game. A complete refusal to go to the dirty areas as they boxed us out all night long. You could see the shutout coming about halfway through the game.
 

CanadasTeam99

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This board is so silly sometimes.--We have two of the best players in the world on our team. But no--let blame the goalie.

Just to remind you of $$$ cheques these chumps are cashing

McDavid 12.5mil
Leon 8.5
Nuge 5.125
Jess Skinner 3
Henrique 3
Nurse 9.25
Ekholm 6
Bouchard 3.9
Kulak 2.75

S Skinner 2.60

We pay our starting goalie what some pay they FRIGGEN Back
convert that to Canadian lol

McDavid makes 17.6 Million CDN. Probably 20+ mill with his endorsements or close.
Drai extention is 19.7 Mill CDN
 

CantHaveTkachev

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The best part of this is that you act like you know what you're talking about, but you can't even take 5 seconds to check that they're analytically one of the best defensive teams in the league.

Your buddy sucks.
the offense is 21st in the NHL, shutout 4 times in 25 games....with McDavid and Draisaitl
this was supposed to be their strength

sit this one out
 
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Oilslick941611

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I'm not the one questioning McDavid's leadership because of game 26 of the regular season.
You’re going the way of Divesatil has far I’m concerned. All do is whine and blame skinner. Skinner sucks, we all get that. It was 1-0, 4 shutout games this season…the offense isn’t clicking, that’s why we lost, that’s why we didnt get a point.

Welcome to the list, at least you’re in good company.
 
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People won't like this but maybe just maybe its not the greatest f***ing idea having Connor Brown (I can't score in an empty net) on the topsix with Drai. I just despise this useless turd by now. He had the tying goal on his stick 6X and cashes nothing. WTF with this guy. You lose games like this becaue half a dozen players in this lineup that should be able to can't score a goal to save their lives.

Look at the chances Brown whiffed in this game on gorgeous feeds. What a f***ing tosser.
When I saw Brown in the top 6 tonight I had a hunch I would be reading the above post but have to agree. He just doesn't have the hands. Gets chances because he's good at positioning himself but I wish the coaching staff would recognize that the finishing skill isn't there.
 
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I missed that. But that’s what you get with prison rules hockey.

This league is a joke.
The league clearly wants this style, it's the only thing that makes sense. They can't accept that they're a niche sport. The league would never admit that there are too many teams, so they allow this kind of bullshit to stop 4th liners from being embarrassed.
 

Tobias Kahun

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Oh they do. They played a smart, extremely patient game. They waited for a classic Oilers f***up and bang, they win.


Terrified of what, exactly? Brown's stone hands? McDavid and Draisatl's absolute refusal to shoot in prime scoring areas? The absolute abyss that is our bottom six forwards? Nurse's bakery?

They were never once in danger of losing the game. A complete refusal to go to the dirty areas as they boxed us out all night long. You could see the shutout coming about halfway through the game.
Patient and hard, thats why the oilers had 5x the dangerous chances as the Knights?
 

CantHaveTkachev

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Yeah, your ability to watch and analyze hockey is laughable.

They give up some of the fewest chances in the league, yet their goalie stinks up the joint in 80% of his starts.

Skinner could shoot the puck into his own net and you'd be blaming the defense.
Oilers scored 0 goals tonight....tell me again how awesome their fancy stats are
 

Tobias Kahun

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You’re going the way of Divesatil has far I’m concerned. All do is whine and blame skinner. Skinner sucks, we all get that. It was 1-0, 4 shutout games this season…the offense isn’t clicking, that’s why we lost, that’s why we didnt get a point.

Welcome to the list, at least you’re in good company.
Whatever you say, "questioning McDavid's leadership"
 

TheGingaNinja

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Expecting a shut out from your goalie every night is not feasible. When you give up 1 goal you should win the game if your skaters have any heart.

This team is soulless.

McDavid might not be the leader we all thought he was.
This forum gets so hyperbolic after a loss. I agree the game isn't really on skinner....but Vegas played a great defensive game. Losses happen. They're a pretty good team too. If MD or Drai can't save the day, doesn't mean they're bad leaders. Just means they couldn't pull it off for this game. Geesh.

We're 3-1, not 0-4 in the last 4. A little perspective please.
 

MessierII

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You gotta be kidding me with this shit. Vegas were terrified all night of our relentless attack and losing pucks all over. it was a putrid game by the KNights and the only thing they figured out is how to pay off the officials so theres no PP's all game and just be able to hold and interfere all night. The game you watched was half rugby. Vegas were putrid in this game. panicking for the entire 3rd period. From the Vegas POV what portion of the game, any, did they actually control?
They controlled the red zone in their zone. We didn’t get in Hills eyes at all or around the net for enough rebounds. Also gave up no odd man breaks.
 

CantHaveTkachev

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Math is hard. Skinner had basically nothing to do today. He botched the 2nd shot on goal and the 3rd shot luckily found the goal post. He made his one save of the night on Turtle but as per usual sells it as if it was a magnificent save waving his glove high. Such an actor. Turtle blew that chance. Eichel couldn't even take or make a pass tonight. Vegas had NOTHING.
McDavid and Draisaitl combined for 0 goals tonight....they had NOTHING
 
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Soundwave

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the offense is 21st in the NHL, shutout 4 times in 25 games....with McDavid and Draisaitl
this was supposed to be their strength

sit this one out,

Here's ground breaking news ... when you make a Cup final (get this) team's will watch something called video (vid-e-o, recorded motion images of your team at 24 or 30 fps) on you a lot more. Then they will adjust to you.

Knoblaugh is not making any offensive adjustments, he still thinks he's in a last year where all he is responsible for is getting the group to play lower event hockey defensively and that's good enough.

He is going to have to wake up and actually start coaching offensive adjustments, this is the NHL now, not the AHL, you can't just coach one side of the rink and call it a day.
 
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Math is hard. Skinner had basically nothing to do today. He botched the 2nd shot on goal and the 3rd shot luckily found the goal post. He made his one save of the night on Turtle but as per usual sells it as if it was a magnificent save waving his glove high. Such an actor. Turtle blew that chance. Eichel couldn't even take or make a pass tonight. Vegas had NOTHING.
And yet we still managed zero goals yet again. Did you enjoy the numerous backpasses to nobody? Putting the puck back to the point only for it to be picked off by a Vegas player?

Vegas had our strategy down cold. They knew exactly what we were going to do.
 

Drivesaitl

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Oh they do. They played a smart, extremely patient game. They waited for a classic Oilers f***up and bang, they win.


Terrified of what, exactly? Brown's stone hands? McDavid and Draisatl's absolute refusal to shoot in prime scoring areas? The absolute abyss that is our bottom six forwards? Nurse's bakery?

They were never once in danger of losing the game. A complete refusal to go to the dirty areas as they boxed us out all night long. You could see the shutout coming about halfway through the game.
You didn't even watch the game did you? Vegas were terrible with the puck, nervous half the night like it was a hand grenade. Refusal to go to the dirty areas? They did. Vegas contain decently and Hill is really good at boxing out. Not a new thing. But on one play alone McD carves through 4 Vegas players tight to their net in a box and gets a scoring chance.

Lost to so you as usual is the opponent had 2 scoring chances all night. Oilers dominated the whole game.
 
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TheNumber4

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At least he wants to shoots the puck. I'd say he has an eye for scoring more than Brown does in a top 6 role. We traded away the mediocre Yamamotos, the Puljujarvis, etcs wingers of the world and yet a guy who has scored 30+ multiple seasons can't be played with either McDavid or Draisaitl for some reason is so f***ing dumb to witness. Jeff Skinner may be one-dimensional, but at least he can score. If anything, seeing him work his butt off and trying to do good on the backchecks but not getting rewarded with anything is just infuriating to see.
For sure he does. He can generate offence all on his own. But he overshoots a bit. Meanwhile McDrai look for more premium oppurtunities. So I wonder if that’s why Knob keeps him away from McDrai. Let Skinner do his thing… and let McDrai do their thing…
 

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