Confirmed Signing with Link: Oilers decline to match offer sheets for Broberg and Holloway

[Maple Leaf]

Congrats to the Blues for marginally improving your team but making every GM hate you

Nah man everyone loves him and doesnt like the oilers

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

I see you're a "live 10 years in the past" kind of guy lol.

That’s one way to look at the draft misstep that has quite literally cost your team a Stanley Cup.

Think that series maybe plays out different if Matthew Tkachuk is an Oiler and not a Panther?

Do you think the fortunes of your team for the first five or six years of McDavid’s career might have gone a little better if Matthew Tkachuk is your #1RW instead of Jesse Puljujarvi being a bubble NHLer?

Because I do.

And before you say he wouldn’t have signed in Edmonton, yes, he would have.

You guys wouldn’t have f***ed around and given him the 8 years he was asking for coming off his ELC.

Cost your city a championship.

 

[SI90]

This is a GM doing his job and might be the quote of the century! Respect to Army.

 

[Rubi]

Does that mean the Oilers were a fluke? No.

Does that mean that the trio can't make it again? No.

It's just a stat that means nothing to his argument.

So the old "numbers matter unless you don't like them... then they are meaningless". Gotcha.
Me... I will go with the odds... particularly when they are slanted so much in favour of a No Repeat. The Oilers likely won't make it back to the finals in 2025 and they haven't improved their odds over the last month. They, in fact, have made them worse and the window to win the Stanley Cup is getting smaller and smaller.

 

[Memento]

Most Oiler fans thought it was too pricey and seems they got their wish. See what Stan the Man does now.

There is only one "Stan the Man". He played his entire baseball career in St. Louis for the Cardinals. To have a rapist-enabler like Bowman take that moniker is an insult.

 

[HuGort]

Thought you said Holloway for some reason. Disregard.

If I did it was mistake

 

[Bounces R Way]

Kind of what I expected the outcome to be. Summer of Jeff Jackson sure took a turn. Pretty clear that Holloway and Broberg didn't feel like they were priorities with those rumored offers and seeing a bunch of vets added before they got theirs.

Getting a quality 2RD with the space they have to work with is going to be challenging.

 

[CanadienShark]

Interesting quote by Armstrong that he'd do it to his mother.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

This is a GM doing his job and might be the quote of the century! Respect to Army.

Might have just been business from the Blues end of things, but I guarantee you, other teams will remember this, and the Oilers won't forget it.

 

[snag]

Hilarious reading Oilers fans in here. In the other thread where it looked like they would match Broberg and let Holloway go Broberg was going to be elite and Holloway sucked anyways. Now in this thread they both suck haha

I have stayed out of the discussion and have been watching the humour from both sides.

But lets not bullshit....you would be laughing regardless. If the Oilers signed them to that kinda deal you would have laughed. If they Oilers matched....you would have laughed. They let them walk, laugh.

 

[Rubi]

Interesting quote by Armstrong that he'd do it to his mother.

Sounds more like something Stan Bowman would say.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Might have just been business from the Blues end of things, but I guarantee you, other teams will remember this, and the Oilers won't forget it.

I doubt other teams will give a damn. I am sure the Oilers will hold a grudge over it though.

 

[Rubi]

I have stayed out of the discussion and have been watching the humour from both sides.

But lets not bullshit....you would be laughing regardless. If the Oilers signed them to that kinda deal you would have laughed. If they Oilers matched....you would have laughed. They let them walk, laugh.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. And the funniest part is the Oilers did it to themselves. They could have avoided this situation completely but they decided signing an over the hill Corey Perry and company was more important.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I doubt other teams will give a damn. I am sure the Oilers will hold a grudge over it though.

Offer sheets happen at a rate of about one successful one per decade.

Two tendered to one team is predatory. The GM community is an old boys club and Armstrong just spat on that.

Might take awhile, but make absolutely no mistake about it, the Blues earned themselves an enemy with this move and Edmonton will absolutely look to put the screws to them one way or another, 3rd round pick and a B prospect apology or not.

 

[Sparksrus3]

St.Louis adding 2 young players for a 2nd and 3rd . Smrt

Not bad for pick. #64 and #96

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Offer sheets happen at a rate of about one successful one per decade.

Two tendered to one team is predatory. The GM community is an old boys club and Armstrong just spat on that.

Might take awhile, but make absolutely no mistake about it, the Blues earned themselves an enemy with this move and Edmonton will absolutely look to put the screws to them one way or another, 3rd round pick and a B prospect apology or not.

I am not doubting they made an enemy out of Edmonton. I full on don't believe that other GM's will give a damn. He didn't do it to them so they will carry on as normal.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I am not doubting they made an enemy out of Edmonton. I full on don't believe that other GM's will give a damn. He didn't do it to them so they will carry on as normal.

I really do think this will have a trickle down effect league wide, and the Blues will want to do their level best to get Jake Neighbors under contract as soon as humanly possible.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Offer sheets happen at a rate of about one successful one per decade.

Two tendered to one team is predatory. The GM community is an old boys club and Armstrong just spat on that.

Might take awhile, but make absolutely no mistake about it, the Blues earned themselves an enemy with this move and Edmonton will absolutely look to put the screws to them one way or another, 3rd round pick and a B prospect apology or not.

We paid the price as fans in Montreal for a terrible offersheet that had no chance of happening in Aho. That was 5 years ago and we still hear about it. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out long term around the league even if it’s lesser names. Teams seem reluctant to do these for a reason.

 

[SI90]

Might have just been business from the Blues end of things, but I guarantee you, other teams will remember this, and the Oilers won't forget it.

This thinking amongst fans and outsiders only. Teams utilize offer sheets every year. We just don’t hear about most of them because they rarely get accepted by the players. Broberg reportedly had 3 offer sheets extended to him and signed with the blues. This is a tool GMs use and are aware of the risks. This is why you need to plan ahead and plan accordingly.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Might have just been business from the Blues end of things, but I guarantee you, other teams will remember this, and the Oilers won't forget it.

Well unfortunately or fortunately, I can't see the Oilers being in any position to grudge over these two players for a decade or so.

Let's be realistic, losing these two players probably won't hurt the Oilers too bad for a couple years without some growth. At that point Edmonton will have some cap space to replenish. There is risk involved with both players, they have some time at the NHL level and haven't produced at a high level.

I would be much more concerned on Edmonton's side about what happens next season when you have about 24m in cap to sign Bouchard and Draisaitl to long term deals with 15 players signed and 22+ will easily be needed for Bouchard and Draisaitl. The rising cap will probably help them be able to do that, but it's still not necessarily pretty.

If the front office of Edmonton were that concerned about losing either one of these players, they could have easily avoided it by not lowballing the players and not signing 4 or 5 veterans on July 1. It's completely self-inflicted.

Also, why in the world would other teams care? If anything this did a favor to the teams that are competing in the NHL right now by potentially cutting some of Edmonton's depth. GMs have to be worried about their team, not the feelings of a Edmonton.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

We paid the price as fans in Montreal for a terrible offersheet that had no chance of happening in Aho. That was 5 years ago and we still hear about it. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out long term around the league even if it’s lesser names. Teams seem reluctant to do these for a reason.

Why would Montreal management care what people on hockey message board say?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

We paid the price as fans in Montreal for a terrible offersheet that had no chance of happening in Aho. That was 5 years ago and we still hear about it. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out long term around the league even if it’s lesser names. Teams seem reluctant to do these for a reason.

I think there's a better than 50% chance that the Blues walk away from Broberg's qualifying offer in a couple of years. I don't think Edmonton even fleetingly considered that.

 

[KPower]

Total mismanagement by the oilers to lose two young prospects.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Total mismanagement by the oilers to lose two young prospects.

Yep. I doubt we ever see a repeat of this. It was a perfect storm of poor management leaving two important players unsigned and having no cap room.

 

[SI90]

We paid the price as fans in Montreal for a terrible offersheet that had no chance of happening in Aho. That was 5 years ago and we still hear about it. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out long term around the league even if it’s lesser names. Teams seem reluctant to do these for a reason.

You also got lucky to have Kotkaniemi offersheet signed by Canes after. Habs dodged a bullet not re-signing him.