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Need to get something going 5v5
Xxx - Matthews- Marner
Nylander-Tavares- Hyman
Soup-Kerfoot- Simmonds

I love Hyman, and the line works, but I think it works in spite of him. I feel like both him and Soup are each slotted one line too high for their ability to process and mesh
 
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PromisedLand said:
Matthews and Marner out there for the last shift. That said, after Matthews-Marner duo on the 3 on 3 OT who we gonna pair Willy with? no choice bsides JT.

Keefe could have managed the bench a little better in the last minute of the 3rd.

If Muzz didnt blow a tire at the end there he was set up by Marner to shoot a bomb on the goal we might have won in regulation there lol.
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Yeah if you follow the sequence the Leafs stacked their scoring line out there in the last minute to win it, so the Tavares line was up, but it's just one of those things where I prefer Tavares isn't out to start 3 on 3 because his footspeed is such a weakness.

Not too upset with his loss, but just making the comment that I'm not liking Tavares mobility 'limitations' lately, especially when it looked like he had figured it out when the season started.
 
Critical91 said:
If you are going to put Tavares out against McDavid, at least don't saddle him with Nylander. Get him someone who's going to battle and try to weather the storm.
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People wouldn't be saying that if Nylander scored on his opportunity.

That is how 3-on-3 works. Usually it works in our favour. When you go up against McDavid and Draisaitl, it usually does not.
 
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VanW27 said:
My initial reaction was to call Taveras too slow but on the second thought I gotta give him and Keefe a break.

To me the strategy was this, Taveras goes out and wins the draw and the Leafs control play until one of two things happen; you get a break or McDavid/Draisaitl need to change. Nylander got the breakaway but Koskinen makes the save. As soon as there's a break it turns into trading odd man rushes, that's just how 3 on 3 works. We missed on ours they converted on theirs.
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It's pretty obvious he expected a survival shift where Nylander might skate into a chance (he did), into Matthews/Marner/Rielly against whatever the Oilers put out next. I just think i'd rather have the 3 best players go at their best players from the get go when they all excel in 3 on 3
 
ItsFineImFine said:
Good game, they gotta up their 5 on 5 game though they're looking slower and out of sorts. Only felt like the Matthews line clicked and the rest were individual efforts. Also the way Holl played that rush in OT triggered me a bit but he wasn't bad asides from that.
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It's hard to blame Holl with likely the 1st and 3rd best players in the NHL bearing down on him, but it seemed like his decision was to let Jesus take the wheel because he didn't take away the shot or pass.

Still love his game this year, though.
 
ULF_55 said:
no when.

when McDavid was out Draisaitl continued to gather points.

wishful thinking by some.
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I dont think of him as the same ball park of the big boys really. He is in that pastrnak and marner and kucherov level. Mcdavid, mackinnon, matthews are in that seperate level to me.
 
Critical91 said:
Am I being pessimistic by pointing out we probably only deserved 2 or 3 points of the 7 we got?

Everyone seems to be happy with points in the bank, and I get the logic, but we're really not far off from the same team that looked like the Sens when compared to the elite teams in the league.

I've seen probably 3-4 periods of hockey this year where we looked like a team that could fight for a cup.
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No this is based and not pessimistic

This team needs to play much better hockey if they want to have any hope of winning a stanley cup. Winning games is nice bit the big picture is about being an elite team and creating winning habits. If we play this way vs TB for example we are getting smoked. We aren't taking that next step into elite level and we should have by now. Are we a top 15 team? Sure. Could we finish top 2 or even 1st in the division? Yes. Are we top 10? Maybe. But this team does not look like anywhere close to a top 5 team or stanley cup champion and anything outside of that paradigm isn't seeing the big picture.
 
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Stephen said:
Yeah if you follow the sequence the Leafs stacked their scoring line out there in the last minute to win it, so the Tavares line was up, but it's just one of those things where I prefer Tavares isn't out to start 3 on 3 because his footspeed is such a weakness.

Not too upset with his loss, but just making the comment that I'm not liking Tavares mobility 'limitations' lately, especially when it looked like he had figured it out when the season started.
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JT is clearly missing Hyman on his line ;)
 
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Sorry we lost the game. Glad we got the point. Thankful to be able to watch a talent like McDavid, just a joy to behold.

7/8 points and Vancouver coming up. Have a good eve, everyone.
 
TimeZone said:
Were 10 games into the season and Nylander is a significantly better finisher. Unfortunately Nylander also lacks the balls to drive the neck on a breakaway, so we got a pathetic attempt from the outside on a breakaway that I would never defend.

Still, I don't think Marner would've done much better in that scenario. Matthews? Yes.
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Wrong
 
Good game. I’m happy with the point, McDavid refused to lose. Kind of disappointed with Keefe... Matthews was the best Leaf tonight by far, and didn’t start OT. It was like a re-run of a Babcock coached team. Other than that, Leafs played poorly, Andersen got them a point. 7-2-1, can’t complain.
 
4thline said:
Need to get something going 5v5
Xxx - Matthews- Marner
Nylander-Tavares- Hyman
Soup-Kerfoot- Simmonds

I love Hyman, and the line works, but I think it works in spite of him. I feel like both him and Soup are each slotted one line too high for their ability to process and mesh
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Should put Vesey back in the top 6. He was a good fit there.
 
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No this is based and not pessimistic

This team needs to play much better hockey if they want to have any hope of winning a stanley cup. Winning games is nice bit the big picture is about being an elite team and creating winning habits. If we play this way vs TB for example we are getting smoked. We aren't taking that next step into elite level and we should have by now. Are we a top 15 team? Sure. Could we finish top 2 or even 1st in the division? Yes. Are we top 10? Maybe. But this team does not look like anywhere close to a top 5 team or stanley cup champion and anything outside of that paradigm isn't seeing the big picture.
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Yes I'm sure an Oilers fan commenting on the Leafs is objective analysis.
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Dave92 said:
Oilers were the better team tonight, no idea why Tavares would go out vs MCdavid in OT, literally any other top 9 player would be better for just trying to survive his shift.
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Nylander made a terrible change; no way anybody coming off the bench would have caught up with McDavid
 
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If it was Babs I would have been all over him so Sheldon what the heck were you thinking?? Tavares can’t keep up with Mcdavid 3 on 3, any high school coach would know that. Absolutely the wrong move. To try to hold Mcdavid so we can play Auston the NEXT shift with someone who is an average to below average skater is assinine. Also, Nylander is a lazy player as well. Shades of Kadri-Uncle Leo.

In the end, we looked like a team who has been playing every second night for several weeks. Muzzin with his worse game as a Leaf. Andersen earned us a point. Now let’s rest and practice our 5 on 5 play.
 
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