Post-Game Talk: Oilers 3 Pens 2 in shootout

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That's the definition of a good road win. It's frustrating that we worked hard to get a lead then sat back. This team is horrible at sitting back and defending. But at the end of the day we played ok and had an excellent game from Nilsson. I'm happy.

Other notes:

- Jujhar earned another game for a first NHL game he looked good.
- Eberle is starting to annoy me. It's ten games back and he's not shown any signs of life. So soft.
- Klefbom needs to settle his game down. When he plays a simple game he's excellent.
Doesn't it take longer than 10 games after a shoulder injury. Coming back from a shoulder injury takes a long time to become comfortable again.
 

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Your Nuge shanking knife is as sharp as ever I see. That was a great defensive play by Lovejoy on him. It's no crime to give another player credit.

So you totally absolve nuge for holding up on a breakaway in OT. He had the edge on the defender. With any skating pace there was not much excuse for a #1 pick not to free and clear there. Cept Nuge looks tired almost all the time and not much pace to his skating these days.

That was a craptastic play he made on the rush. That he actually thought there was a trailer coming on a 3 man rush in 3 on 3 play confounds me. Try to explain that one away if you can.

I've got an explanation. He just wasn't thinking.
 

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You can put Nuge and Ebs in that boat too. They never use the clapper. I know Hall has a rocket because he was used on the the point on the PP a few times last year the other two are just feeble. Neither one of them is even capable of a one timer either. I've seen both attempt them in the past and its like the puck just over powers them.


The whole group does seem to severely under-utilize scoring tools that are absolute cornerstone threats for the majority of all other legitimate top-tier scorers. At least Nuge had a clapper this game though.
 

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Your Nuge shanking knife is as sharp as ever I see. That was a great defensive play by Lovejoy on him. It's no crime to give another player credit.

I have to agree with Replacement. Nuge had advantage on Lovejoy. He has a good shot, he should use it instead of stepping on the brakes and looking to pass. He has to be a shoot first person in that situation.
 

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When I say Hall isn't dangerous, I just mean that if someone like Eberle found himself in the situations that Hall generates like a dozen times a game --he'd be capitalizing on a lot more of them. Hall puts himself in great position to score all the time but really only generates a legit "scoring chance" like 5% of the time. (eyeballing and randomly estimating here, but still).

If I see Hall with a breakaway to me its the same level of danger/threat as Matt Hendricks. Hall drives the play but he also drives me mad with his low quality shots.

Hall has spent a lot of time being topten in NHL production. He's plenty dangerous.

That hall so often puts himself in scoring positions should be considered a positive. you're strangely determining its a negative.

Eberle needs to be putting himself in more scoring positions. That was the message from the coach who put Eberle on 3rd line for half a game tonight.
 

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The breakaway RNH had earlier in the game is a perfect example that he has the speed to beat defense but he wants to play conservative and play 20+ mins. If we cut down his minutes you will see a faster pace game from RNH. I think we will see a lot more of that when McDavid returns.
 

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I have to agree with Replacement. Nuge had advantage on Lovejoy. He has a good shot, he should use it instead of stepping on the brakes and looking to pass. He has to be a shoot first person in that situation.

The key right here. Due to being tentative, and unconfident, he completely blew a major scoring opportunity in 3 on 3 play supported with an oddman break/partial breakaway. Something that is often quite deadly in OT.

he parlayed it into nothing. He needs to be better than that. I say this in the context of him being horrible in the last 2 GP and costing his team majorly on this roadtrip.
 

KlimasLoveChild

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So you totally absolve nuge for holding up on a breakaway in OT. He had the edge on the defender. With any skating pace there was not much excuse for a #1 pick not to free and clear there. Cept Nuge looks tired almost all the time and not much pace to his skating these days.

That was a craptastic play he made on the rush. That he actually thought there was a trailer coming on a 3 man rush in 3 on 3 play confounds me. Try to explain that one away if you can.

I've got an explanation. He just wasn't thinking.

I think pulling up on that break was impacted by the play earlier in the game. Remember when Nugget cut to the net and got whipped out. He was probably afraid to feel the burn again. Soft skill as Spector would say.
 

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I think pulling up on that break was impacted by the play earlier in the game. Remember when Nugget cut to the net and got whipped out. He was probably afraid to feel the burn again. Soft skill as Spector would say.

The first breakaway RNH was coming from the outside. The one in OT RNH was already on the inside and ahead of Lovejoy. He has to shoot there. There was nothing to lose by shooting when your teammates are trailing far away and pretty much covered
 

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The first breakaway RNH was coming from the outside. The one in OT RNH was already on the inside and ahead of Lovejoy. He has to shoot there. There was nothing to lose by shooting when your teammates are trailing far away and pretty much covered

He can shoot, potentially miss, and create an odd man going the other way.

He can stop, setup, and have some precious 3 on 3 zone time in a very tired Pittsburgh.

Out of all plays to dissect, don't quite get the negative angle on this one.

Nuge is doing well, he's on pace for a hell of a year and getting the worst defensive assignments...
 

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When I say Hall isn't dangerous, I just mean that if someone like Eberle found himself in the situations that Hall generates like a dozen times a game --he'd be capitalizing on a lot more of them. Hall puts himself in great position to score all the time but really only generates a legit "scoring chance" like 5% of the time. (eyeballing and randomly estimating here, but still).

If I see Hall with a breakaway to me its the same level of danger/threat as Matt Hendricks. Hall drives the play but he also drives me mad with his low quality shots.

Post like this drive me crazy with their low level of thought.
 

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Khaira also had a decent first game. Late in the third he completely ran over Hornqvist before intercepting the breakout pass, almost leading to his first goal.
 

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When I say Hall isn't dangerous, I just mean that if someone like Eberle found himself in the situations that Hall generates like a dozen times a game --he'd be capitalizing on a lot more of them. Hall puts himself in great position to score all the time but really only generates a legit "scoring chance" like 5% of the time. (eyeballing and randomly estimating here, but still).

If I see Hall with a breakaway to me its the same level of danger/threat as Matt Hendricks. Hall drives the play but he also drives me mad with his low quality shots.

Hall has the drive/speed but lacks an elite level of finish and has "decent" but not elite hands.

Eberle has elite hands and finish... but simply lacks that drive/speed and is known for his soft perimeter play.

Put those 2 together into 1 player and "it" would be a Hart + Art Ross level player.
 
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rboomercat90

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It's not just age. He's played a lot of hockey and endured a lot of injury and drama on the Pens. I think it's starting to catch up to him both mentally and physically.

It's not just this year either. He's been fighting it for a few years it seems. I'll admit that I don't watch a lot of Penguin games but he hasn't looked dominant in any game I have seen him in, in a longtime. That includes last years World Championships and the last Olympics. Who knows if there's anything going on between him and Lemieux or not. What we do know for a fact is all the awful injuries he's had over the years. It's disgusting how the league has pretty much ignored players cheap shotting him his entire career. Steckel got nothing for that first hit that gave him a concussion or broke his neck (whatever that one did). Dubinsky getting only one game for what he did to him last night was just as much of a joke.

On top of all that he plays for a team that has a medical staff that seems to have a lot of trouble diagnosing injuries and illnesses with him and his teammates. Maybe he's flat out just lost his passion for hockey in general and the NHL in particular.
 

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The first breakaway RNH was coming from the outside. The one in OT RNH was already on the inside and ahead of Lovejoy. He has to shoot there. There was nothing to lose by shooting when your teammates are trailing far away and pretty much covered

I was pointing out what a ***** Nuge was there. I don't know about your recollection of the play but he was coming in on his back hand and the dman was closing in on him. I guess he could have back handed it from the hash marks as you suggest or he could have manned up and drove it to the net or opened up to attempt the forehand. Either of the latter options probably end in some pain. Nuge pulled the shoot.
 

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As I mentioned, I decided to go eat a Schnitzel instead of watching the game tonight.
Is it mere coincidence that I beat the schnitz in a shootout as well?

I think not.

How was Schultz?
EbS?
Letestu?
 

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I was pointing out what a ***** Nuge was there. I don't know about your recollection of the play but he was coming in on his back hand and the dman was closing in on him. I guess he could have back handed it from the hash marks as you suggest or he could have manned up and drove it to the net or opened up to attempt the forehand. Either of the latter options probably end in some pain. Nuge pulled the shoot.

Also remember that he could have easily backhanded it wide and it might have caused an odd man rush the other way. Wouldn't surprise me if that's what was running through his mind. :popcorn:
 

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As I mentioned, I decided to go eat a Schnitzel instead of watching the game tonight.
Is it mere coincidence that I beat the schnitz in a shootout as well?

I think not.

How was Schultz?
EbS?
Letestu?
Schultz looked fine with Davidson.
Eberle was meh. Somehow got 1st star
Letetsu was average
 

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