Proposal: Oilers 1st to Las Vegas for an exposed D of Edmonton choice

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Vegas holds all the cards. They aren't making any deals until they first see who is available to them. At that point in time, any deals will be made based on shopping players around the league. No way they agree to something like the OP suggests.

 

[Creativero]

Vegas holds all the cards. They aren't making any deals until they first see who is available to them. At that point in time, any deals will be made based on shopping players around the league. No way they agree to something like the OP suggests.

This is what I keep think every time someone wants to offer some lame draft pick bribe to not take the obvious best guy. Why not just take the BPA and market him to 30 teams instead of 1? I don't care if it's happend in the past, there's no way that's the best way to do business this time ( it was probably a bad idea then too) with a $500 million team.

 

[CHaracter79]

Don't know how many d men available in the draft will be worth a 1st rounder

 

[knifer]

Why wouldnt the Oilers just offer a 2nd to the team that owns the player. That way they dont lose him for nothing.

 

[Creativero]

What's the point of doing this deal before they even have the player from either sides point of view?

 

[Balthazar]

Why wouldnt the Oilers just offer a 2nd to the team that owns the player. That way they dont lose him for nothing.

This. The team would take the draft pick and lose a lesser player to Vegas instead. Can't believe I had to come to the 2nd page to read this.

 

[Mr Misty]

Why wouldnt the Oilers just offer a 2nd to the team that owns the player. That way they dont lose him for nothing.

This. The team would take the draft pick and lose a lesser player to Vegas instead. Can't believe I had to come to the 2nd page to read this.

Because every team loses a player. When you trade away the likely player taken (we'll call him player A) you also lose the next best player (player B).

If you choose to do nothing, you lose A but still have B.
If you trade A for a 2nd, you lose A and B and have only a 2nd.

Plus a 2nd is essentially worthless. The 2010 class has completed 5 seasons and has 10 players with 82 or more NHL games and 12 with 5 NHL games or fewer. If we assume Player B is an NHL contributor, the odds are that 2nd will take 5 or more years to replace him if they hit at all.

 

[Stuzchuk]

Just throwing this out quickly, what their lineup would look like this as per THIS thread...

do you see anything worth a high 1st in there? I guess, Id be ready to pay this kind of price, if what I've heard is true about the 2017 draft

[table="head;width=450]LW|C|RW
Silfverberg|Soderberg|Eakin
Nordstrom|Lewis|Jurco
Andrighetto|Wilson|Yakupov
Killorn|Gauce|Bennett
-|Lowry|Weise[/table]

[table="head;width=450]LD|RD
Gorges|Pokka
Jokipakka|J. Johnson
De Haan|Klein
Methot|Martin
Bouwmeester|Brodin
Marincin|Petrovic[/table]

[table="head;width=450]GL|
Murray|
Domingue|
Subban|
Grubauer| [/table]

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

The Ducks aren't losing Silfverberg and they won be protecting Bieksa. He'll waive or be bought out.

 

[Jarey Curry]

In theory shouldn't las vegas trade like half of their choices to draft picks if there's interest from the other side, that way they could pick the veterans they like and dry up this draft class, get them developed and have a wonderful mix of veteran/youth in their organization in a few years

 

[Maukkis]

In theory shouldn't las vegas trade like half of their choices to draft picks if there's interest from the other side, that way they could pick the veterans they like and dry up this draft class, get them developed and have a wonderful mix of veteran/youth in their organization in a few years

And have nothing concrete to show to the people who are meant to become fans?

Vegas absolutely needs to have good NHL players in the lineup, starting from 17-18 season. This is a fact.

 

[airbus220]

Arizona will protect Domingue and expose Smith with his contract.
There seems to be no chance Murray will be exposed.
Grubauer and Subban are both RFA, no need to waste 20% of the RFA spots Vegas has on goalies.

 

[airbus220]

And have nothing concrete to show to the people who are meant to become fans?

Vegas absolutely needs to have good NHL players in the lineup, starting from 17-18 season. This is a fact.

Vegas should trade half of the drafted players, especially 7D from the 14D they drafted. Vegas needs to do this because there likely won't be top 6 F available in the draft and need to get some top 6 F through trades.

 

[Maukkis]

Vegas should trade half of the drafted players, especially 7D from the 14D they drafted. Vegas needs to do this because there likely won't be top 6 F available in the draft and need to get some top 6 F through trades.

It's one thing to trade for NHL players, which is completely fine. Trading for picks will lead to a catastrophe.

I think we're going to see them picking forwards who really shouldn't be taken, but since they need at least 14, and everyone can protect most of their top 6, they need to take all the help they can get. How much wheeling and dealing will they do, god knows. Probably some trades will happen, but they're not going to do a ton of NHL 17 moves.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Just curious how many decent D men will be left unprotected for Vegas to claim that Edmonton would be willing to give up a potential decent 1st round pick for them. Don't really see to many decent D men being left unprotected.

 

[McSuper]

You just got rid of Schultz though

He could not QB the water bottle on the bench . Glad he gone but at the same time I hope he does well . I don't get into hating on a player when it doesn't work out . The only players I hate is dirty players . Lost a little respect for Nurses after last year fight . He clear jumped him rather calling him out .

 

[Jumptheshark]

What's the point of doing this deal before they even have the player from either sides point of view?

Because this is hfboards and we have 10k of posters who think they know everything

 

[madhi19]

Not sure if this is legal or not so if it isn't maybe a mod can delete it :

It would have to be ok with the NHL for the Oilers to approach Las Vegas and make an offer base on D that are available ahead of time

To Las Vegas Edmonton 1st 2017

To Edmonton a D of their choice that has been exposed

Edmonton needs a puck moving RHD that can QB the power play .

This becomes more of a prediction as to want D becomes available . I see 2 of the Wild Becoming available , NYI 1 but for the most part I am unsure .

Nobody going to expose any RHD that can QB the power play. The best D that might be exposed are going to be washout guys who get a extra year just to serve as expansion bait.

 

[suddeninterest]

Only way I do it is if it's Spurgeon or Dumba coming back, with an outside possibility of Scandella or Pulock. If it's a pick ~15 ov then LV doesn't do it and if it's 5-10 then I probably wouldn't if I were Edmonton. Probably doesn't happen.

 

[Szechwan]

So a top 15 pick for a number 4 D man?

The Oil have traded one for less pretty recently...

 

[Reddwit]

If you're offering your 1st for an exposed defenseman, then Detroit will happily just give you Green instead. He's been Detroit's best D and I doubt a defenseman better than him will be exposed. Green ($1-1.5M retained) for Edmonton's first at the draft.

 

[thadd]

For Edmonton to do this Las Vegas would have to pick up a pretty solid d-man and Las Vegas wouldn't be able to afford to cough that guy up, either.

 

[Lunatik]

The Oil have traded one for less pretty recently...

so why would they again?

 

[fuswald]

Vegas first for exposing Eberle.

 

[Soundgarden]

Vegas first for exposing Eberle.

Why would Vegas trade their first draft pick for a 27 year old winger like Eberle?