A low-risk move just like the Stars signing Jordie Benn as an undrafted FA as a showing of good faith to his younger brother. Benn ended up working his ass off and securing a nice little NHL career for himself. Or, for a more close-to-home example, us signing Owen Sillinger.
the lack of engagement on this comment is a good sign for the overall health of the board but i can't just let it slide lol
Or Marcus Foligno? Or Jesper Boquist? Or Matthew Gaudreau? Or Kyle Johnson? Or William Nylander?
Did Jeff Carter have a sibling who was decent/average at hockey? I'm confused.
That's the thinking that gives you a 4x4 Gudbransson who doesn't actually fix anything. Sure add a good veteran if there's a reasonable deal available, but the real change needs to from current and future stars filling those boots. Just like Hughes and Pettersson did this year in Canucks
Agreed. What we need is not just "veteran leadership" but "really good established NHL player." This may be what people are suggesting when they say "get a vet" but it's not clear. It should be clear. We need the Nick Foligno that we got when we actually acquired Nick Foligno, not the current Nick Foligno.
i don't think the roster can accommodate bringing in two veteran forwards (one 'foligno' type and one to support gaudreau) + keeping all three russians together unless you're trading one or both of johnson + sillinger just for the sake of clearing space.
The Foligno’s are probably the only logical comparison to the Jones’ when looking at where each brother was or looked at in relation to the team, and how much “work” or how many “assets” they would need to move in order to acquire the “lesser” brother.
your exact words were that they 'stripped the C' from him. that is very specific phrasing commonly understood to mean demoted from the captaincy but kept on the roster.
they got a 1st and a 4th for foligno. they used the first rounder on ceulemans and traded the fourth rounder for mathieu olivier.
that said … if we were comparing $100 million to $98.7 million, that's "essentially the same" (your words) amount of money.
jakob silfverberg just retired. john tavares just played his 1100th NHL game. erik karlsson, who has missed a ton of time in his career due to injuries, just played his 1000th. tomas tatar is a sub-NHL player at this point.
not sure why you've gone out of your way to invent a magical fantasy world in which the blue jackets apparently wanted to strip the C from nick foligno – something you said was 'semantics' only to explicitly describe twice in the same comment – but that was never going to happen.
Don’t sign Nylander (as I’ve been saying), trade Laine and Kuraly.
I can't see a reality where a new GM comes in and has an asset on his team that performed exceedingly well ever since entering in the system and DOESNT retain his for what's essentially an ELC (874k). This is a business and at the of the day Nylander is an asset with a current positive value that other people will covet. It's literal definition of a low risk/high reward scenario.
Disagree 10000% that Nylander is an asset now.I can't see a reality where a new GM comes in and has an asset on his team that performed exceedingly well ever since entering in the system and DOESNT retain his for what's essentially an ELC (874k). This is a business and at the of the day Nylander is an asset with a current positive value that other people will covet. It's literal definition of a low risk/high reward scenario.
And? You're getting a new coach and you want to give him as many tools to work with as possible. You're getting one for essentially free. If you can get a player who can put up 40ish pts for under 1M who isn't a defensive liability, that's a big win for your depth and frees up to spend elsewhere. He's a flexible asset you can move up or if he's not performing as hoped you send him down and worst case scenario, he's someone else's problem.
Ever notice how the guys that have great seasons in Arizona leave and aren’t very good at all?
Yeah, except that is not Nylander.
But the Sillingers aren’t a “logical comparison to the Jones’” yet that’s where you started this train of thought.
Is it noticeably better than say Roslovic or Sillinger? I don’t think so.
He would cost a quarter of Roslovic, being comparable and cheaper makes him better
I’m talking about shooting talent.
