Offseason Roster Moves, Rumors, and Discussion

[Xoggz22]

We already have enough players under contract, I don't feel anyone on the UFA list is required (beside Stamkos).
Need to let our young guys gain their spots, and take the next step.

I've never been a proponent of pulling in UFAs, and still not. If we did, I prefer short term and someone that provides something we don't have. There is an advantage to some that hit UFA...some can push your roster and change the culture, while others could be that piece your missing to get over the top. I see very few that do that without overpaying (Term and $$). I'm not sure I see any there this year and would prefer to see the roster molded by trades rather than UFA signings.

Now that said, if we can move players to upgrade other areas (I have a long post in the other GM thread that is probably incoherent), then maybe you need a vet on a short term deal to fill a role and help with the shift. I am still not a proponent for UFAs at this time but could see a need in the right situation.

 

[stevo61]

i get what your saying but i don't think our bottom 6 is the problem, i think we actually might have one of the best bottom 6 in the league. our top 6 is a mess imo. if we can find a way to slide boone down to the 3rd i think we are in a great spot. ( fantilli slides him down we just need cole or kent to have massive off season )
domi sure looks nice rn he didn't play like that with us LOL

He didnt play like that in the regular season either. If he played that way more often he'd make a lot more money and not be bouncing from teams

 

[cslebn]

I hear the most glowing things about Chris Tanev's leadership. At his age he might be willing to do something like a 3 year deal. You're right that he probably wouldn't sign with a non-contender even with an overpay. But I'd make a big overpay short term offer anyways. Maybe Johnny and Guddy can put in a word.

He would sure look good next to Zach

 

[KJ Dangler]

i get what your saying but i don't think our bottom 6 is the problem, i think we actually might have one of the best bottom 6 in the league. our top 6 is a mess imo. if we can find a way to slide boone down to the 3rd i think we are in a great spot. ( fantilli slides him down we just need cole or kent to have massive off season )
domi sure looks nice rn he didn't play like that with us LOL

Yup.. in no way should Boone Jenner be playing on your top 2 lines .. or 20 minutes per night .. he would be more effective on the 3rd line .

 

[EspenK]

Any interest in trying to obtain an extended Lindholm from Boston? I doubt it could be worked out financially with the Elvis albatross hanging around. I don't see the Jackets as major improvers next season so I'd be ok with riding Tarasov/Greaves and see what is really there.

 

[majormajor]

Any interest in trying to obtain an extended Lindholm from Boston? I doubt it could be worked out financially with the Elvis albatross hanging around. I don't see the Jackets as major improvers next season so I'd be ok with riding Tarasov/Greaves and see what is really there.

Assuming you mean Swayman, I think he would cost a pretty good player, and I'm never sure enough with goalies. I'd rather do Tarasov/Greaves/+UFA G, assuming an Elvis buyout.

 

[EspenK]

Assuming you mean Swayman, I think he would cost a pretty good player, and I'm never sure enough with goalies. I'd rather do Tarasov/Greaves/+UFA G, assuming an Elvis buyout.

I meant Ulmark. No way Boston gives up Swayman imo although if they would I'd be all in. Your concern re goalies is a good point though.

 

[majormajor]

I meant Ulmark. No way Boston gives up Swayman imo although if they would I'd be all in. Your concern re goalies is a good point though.

My answer with goalies is always the same. Voodoo.

 

[Youngguns1380]

What about if Marner could become available to the CBJ?

Does it makes sense and what would the move be?

 

[Viqsi]

What about if Marner could become available to the CBJ?

Does it makes sense and what would the move be?

No, no, also no, and please for the love of G-d no. He doesn't want to be here, he costs too much, we already have too may wingers in general and two highly-paid wingers who need a supporting cast to do well in particular, his contract is only for one more year and after that he demands the millions dollars bills, and Toronto is going to be desperate to get a superstar return for him. Stay far far far far away.

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

No, no, also no, and please for the love of G-d no. He doesn't want to be here, he costs too much, we already have too may wingers in general and two highly-paid wingers who need a supporting cast to do well in particular, his contract is only for one more year and after that he demands the millions dollars bills, and Toronto is going to be desperate to get a superstar return for him. Stay far far far far away.

Also, I'm under the impression that we/the CBJ is looking for grit, toughness, and edge if we are moving big pieces. And Marner is the exact OPPOSITE of what the Jackets are looking for.

 

[VT]

No, no, also no, and please for the love of G-d no. He doesn't want to be here, he costs too much, we already have too may wingers in general and two highly-paid wingers who need a supporting cast to do well in particular, his contract is only for one more year and after that he demands the millions dollars bills, and Toronto is going to be desperate to get a superstar return for him. Stay far far far far away.

May I ask since when is Laine dependent on teammates? Or have I been watching other games?

I agree with Marner.

 

[tunnelvision]

Since Marner didn't seem to like the idea of Columbus being one of the possible hub cities during pandemia, I don't expect him to ever waive his NMC to get here.

Plus I agree with others that he is not what the team really needs currently.

 

[EspenK]

Marner for Gaudreau?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Marner for Gaudreau?

Sure if neither of them had to be paid or if you could swap their contracts but otherwise no.

The Marner mojo is going to be strong and I understand it but I encourage CBJ fans to use their willpower to resist.

 

[Ice9]

Also, I'm under the impression that we/the CBJ is looking for grit, toughness, and edge if we are moving big pieces. And Marner is the exact OPPOSITE of what the Jackets are looking for.

It'd be a few picks too early but Iginla will be all that plus for years to come. Solid pick for someone...

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

If the Blue Jackets trade for and re-sign Marner, they will doom themselves to nearly a decade of continued mediocrity. They don't need him and particularly not his cap hit.

I could see him make sense for a team like Buffalo, though. Marner and Thompson might be good together, for instance.

 

[squashmaple]

If the Blue Jackets trade for and re-sign Marner, they will doom themselves to nearly a decade of continued mediocrity. They don't need him and particularly not his cap hit.

I could see him make sense for a team like Buffalo, though. Marner and Thompson might be good together, for instance.

One for one for PLD. LA might have to pay Marner more, but at least he is genuinely productive (in the regular season). Toronto's already stuck with a problem with a NMC, might as well have a cheaper one. Marner gets to go to a market that won't tear him to shreds for existing, and PLD gets the big stage he allegedly wants.

 

[MAHJ71]

Marner for Gaudreau?

Just not seeing it for two reasons:

1- Somebody who has trashed Columbus in the past versus someone who left a team he had been with his entire career to move closer to home?

2- With Johnny having a NMC, who's to say he would be willing to uproot his family again (factoring in wife's job here in Columbus + 2 young kids) to waive and go play in the pressure cooker of Toronto?

 

[Ice9]

Important for new GM to get JG fired up and lined up with the right guys whoever they may be.

One of, if not the first guy I'd sit down with...

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Not even going to entertain the Gaudreau for Marner thing because it’s not even worth addressing. Not happening

I’m not sure where this “Marner hates Columbus” thing is coming from either but I think it stems from him on a livestream not being exactly excited to be here potentially for the bubble playoffs. Which, honestly, is valid? He doesn’t live here, of course he’d rather be in his home country. Especially at the time. Maybe I’m wrong and there’s another example of this but a quick google search netted nothing.

And finally, a friendly reminder that Marner did almost sign/did negotiate an offer sheet with us.

How close did the Blue Jackets come to offer-sheeting Mitch Marner? – Sportsnet.ca

According to his agent, Mitch Marner was presented with 2 offer sheets before signing with the Leafs - Article - BARDOWN

www.bardown.com

Used as leverage with Toronto? Wasn’t serious about signing? Maybe. Probably.

Still true he negotiated it? Yes

Now as far as would I move assets to get him (assuming he’d sign long term)? The short answer I guess is yes. He’s an elite player. But would I pursue it hard and move heaven and earth to do it? No, I wouldn’t.

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

It'd be a few picks too early but Iginla will be all that plus for years to come. Solid pick for someone...

I'm coming around to the idea that if the Jackets don't get 1.1 tomorrow, I want Iginla. I also want to investigate if Brady Tkachuk is avaliable too.

 

[CBJx614]

Marner as a finishing piece to a rebuild? Sure.

Marner as a core piece of the team that we want to build our future around? Hard pass.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

One for one for PLD. LA might have to pay Marner more, but at least he is genuinely productive (in the regular season). Toronto's already stuck with a problem with a NMC, might as well have a cheaper one. Marner gets to go to a market that won't tear him to shreds for existing, and PLD gets the big stage he allegedly wants.

If Dubois had a short-term deal, Toronto might take that chance. As it stands, I'm doubtful. I'd love to see it though, mostly for the drama.

Realistically, there are not many places Marner can go. Buffalo, maybe, but they have the Skinner contract, I realised after I wrote that. Ottawa, Seattle, Utah... where else?

Columbus could involve themselves in the Marner trade though. They are going to have a lot of cap space. Maybe retain on Marner if there's a 1st or equivalent for them in it?

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Marner as a core piece of the team that we want to build our future around? Hard pass.

i think folks are really underselling mitch marner on this board.

• literally just turned 27 yesterday (same draft class as werenski)
• is arguably the best defensive winger in the league, is selke-caliber
• plays gigantic minutes (21:26 toi/gp over the last five years)
• is one of the best penalty killers in the league
• is one of the best play-drivers in the league
• elite point production

his scoring rate the last six seasons (1.22 p/gp, 509p in 417gp) which comes out to 100 points per 82 games, which is significantly higher than the blue jackets single season franchise record of 87 points. he'd make the jackets better in a lot of areas.

some 'concerns' that are non-issues to me:

1. fit relative to the rest of the roster – he'd immediately be their best player
2. line fit with gaudreau – i'd have them on separate lines
3. contract – the jackets have a ton of cap space + the cap is going up anyway + they'd have enough runway to make other moves before any actual big RFA deals (i.e. fantilli) come up
4. playoff performance – the jackets need to focus on getting to the playoffs first + marner wasn't the problem with that group anyway imo