Speculation: Offseason coaching thread: Should they stay or should they go?

[MeinerEiner]

Three Penguins Players Undergo Successful Surgeries | Pittsburgh Penguins

Pittsburgh Penguins defensemen Kris Letang and John Ludvig, as well as forward Matt Nieto, recently underwent successful surgeries, it was announced today by President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Kyle Dubas. Letang underwent surgery to repair a fractured finger on his left hand on...

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Surgeries for Letang, Nieto and Ludvig. Letang is out 8 weeks, Ludvig is out 4-6 months and Nieto is out 6-7 months. Think this firmly ends the Nieto experiment.

That was the injury that made Letang play like a complete moron? I highly doubt that

 

[66-30-33]

That was the injury that made Letang play like a complete moron? I highly doubt that

No, he didn’t have brain surgery.

 

[HandshakeLine]

No, he didn’t have brain surgery.

Can’t operate on what you don’t have.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

All of this is good news.
Nieto is shit and now won't block a bottom-six spot.
Ludvig is overrated by the fanbase because he hits, and people associate that somehow with success. His primary job is to defend. The dude was a -12 in 33 games. Garbage.
I'm more interested in St. Ivany and Shea.
Most importantly Letang will be ready for training camp, easily.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

We're never getting rid of this guy

 

[Andy99]

We're never getting rid of this guy

As I said in the other thread, he can still coach Team USA while coaching NJD

 

[eXile3]

We're never getting rid of this guy

The US doesn’t really have a chance anyways but it sucks the industry still thinks this guy is an elite coach

 

[HandshakeLine]

Lol it's the same trajectory as Bylsma and yet people are still gonna be in denial about it.

 

[Lustaf]

Best coach in the league - no idea how we didn't make the playoffs two straight years.

 

[Factorial]

Lol it's the same trajectory as Bylsma and yet people are still gonna be in denial about it.

Bylsma's name is coming up in rumors on who the new Kracken head coach will be.

 

[Pens x]

good god, usa deserves to lose

 

[66-30-33]

We're never getting rid of this guy

But why? guy has not done anything worthy since 2017.

 

[Gurglesons]

The US doesn’t really have a chance anyways but it sucks the industry still thinks this guy is an elite coach

Lol what? We have the best goaltending and defense out of any of the major national teams and Crosby is going to be old as hell.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

Lol what? We have the best goaltending and defense out of any of the major national teams and Crosby is going to be old as hell.

Yeah this should be one of the best rosters the US has had in quite a while. They have a legitimate shot at the gold.

Though that’s probably now out the window with Sullivan as coach.

 

[Andy99]

Best coach in the league - no idea how we didn't make the playoffs two straight years.

All on the players…he has absolutely nothing to do with the product put out on the ice lol

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Lol what? We have the best goaltending and defense out of any of the major national teams and Crosby is going to be old as hell.

There's McDavid, Mac, Reinhart, Bedard, Point, Barzal, Suzuki, etc... Canada's weakness is not at Center.
If they lose to USA it's cuz of Sullivan, the D depth and goaltending. Winger depth is probably pretty close between the teams.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Bylsma's name is coming up in rumors on who the new Kracken head coach will be.

lol, this league, sometimes.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Think I'd go with Tocchet for team Canada coach. He's good with stars, and is hungry in big games.

 

[Gurglesons]

There's McDavid, Mac, Reinhart, Bedard, Point, Barzal, Suzuki, etc... Canada's weakness is not at Center.
If they lose to USA it's cuz of Sullivan, the D depth and goaltending. Winger depth is probably pretty close between the teams.

USA has Eichel, Hughes, Matthews. I’m not sure I’m that worried about the center depth battle tbh.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

USA has Eichel, Hughes, Matthews. I’m not sure I’m that worried about the center depth battle tbh.

That's not what I said. I said it's not the area of disparity to be focused on. It's not about Crosby.
But yeah, Canada has the edge at C.

 

[Gurglesons]

That's not what I said. I said it's not the area of disparity to be focused on. It's not about Crosby.
But yeah, Canada has the edge at C.

McDavid isn’t a winner. Crosby is. Having him potential miss and having McDavid as C will be yet another miss for him needing to step up and play the game that is needed to be a champ.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

McDavid isn’t a winner. Crosby is. Having him potential miss and having McDavid as C will be yet another miss for him needing to step up and play the game that is needed to be a champ.

This is a team vs team comparison, both of which are loaded with stars. I don't know why you're making it about two players.

 

[Gurglesons]

This is a team vs team comparison, both of which are loaded with stars. I don't know why you're making it about two players.

Because vibe is an extreme qualifier in these all star teams.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

USA Hockey doesn't have much of a choice for coaches. The only active American head coaches in the NHL are Sullivan, Tortorella, Laviolette, and Hynes. There's also David Quinn.

Laviolette bombed in 2006. Torts bombed in the World Cup of Hockey in 2016.

Plus, Sullivan never truly got the chance to coach the team the previous time around because the NHL didn't go to Beijing due to COVID.

 

[Jacob]

I like Ludvig as much as St. Ivany. His +/- is deflated because he tended to get in the lineup during rough stretches and it was just the opposite for St. Ivany. And 23/24 year old D do tend to get better.

We’ll need both anyway.

Also forgot that he was more frequently playing the wrong side.