GDT: Offseason 2023 Thread - Now what do we do?

[chaz4hockey]

Sweet young man

I recommend spending the summer with RBA and his family and joining Rod for workouts. PP should do the same.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

FWIW:
Real Estate/Insurance/other cost of living items are much more expensive in SW Florida versus the Triangle.

Sure, but an extra $3M can cover a LOT of Real Estate/Insurance/other costs and still have plenty left over.

 

[Tryamw]

I'd love it as a Canucks fan. As a Carolina fan burn it with fire. Then gather the ash and use it in napalm

 

[Tryamw]

Clearly, he needs to be fired because he didn't pull the trigger...........



And you thought the takes in here were bad

Tapi?,?

 

[EXTRAS]

I could see Staal getting a bit less than someone like jenner. So maybe 3.25m

 

[The Faulker 27]

I recommend spending the summer with RBA and his family and joining Rod for workouts. PP should do the same.

The PP might want to consider spending time with a therapist after all of it's issues this season.

 

[EXTRAS]

I'd love it as a Canucks fan. As a Carolina fan burn it with fire. Then gather the ash and use it in napalm

I don't think the value is that far off. Jt miller is a piece that could put a top team over the top. 100 points last year, beating any other canuck by 30 points.

Using kk money + cap saving on staals next contract would fit in miller's cap. And that 1st is gonna be a fairly late one.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I don't think the value is that far off. Jt miller is a piece that could put a top team over the top. 100 points last year, beating any other canuck by 30 points.

Using kk money + cap saving on staals next contract would fit in miller's cap. And that 1st is gonna be a fairly late one.

Why would we trade the younger, defensively sound center for the much older center that has found that part of his game lacking? Let alone add to it?

Also, we're not saving money by trading KK and adding Miller. We're actually paying more there

 

[Borsig]

did @Borsig ride the lightning? did the blowout loss to jersey break him? did he finally just get tired of us?

i don't think he was all that old, but having been on the internets for a loooong time i've gotten to the point when posters disappear (well, without an obvious blaze of glory exit) i start to wonder if they're ok.

I'm fine. I am very superstitious come playoff time. I stayed off the boards for the playoffs once we started winning. I didn't come here at all until just now.

Still reflecting on the Florida series. I had us as a loss to jersey. After that I had hope. Then the unable to score thing came back.

I was ready to move on from Andersen now I'm not sure. He did well. Kochetkov is.... a backup for now. Not sure where we go from here.

And no I'm not old. Lol.

 

[DaveG]

I'd love it as a Canucks fan. As a Carolina fan burn it with fire. Then gather the ash and use it in napalm

Yeah that's f***ing awful for the Canes.
Who's the dumbf*** that suggested this?

Drop the first and it's still bad, but only in a mockable way where it's "do you even know how the team you're trying to trade with operates?" sense.

I don't think the value is that far off. Jt miller is a piece that could put a top team over the top. 100 points last year, beating any other canuck by 30 points.

Using kk money + cap saving on staals next contract would fit in miller's cap. And that 1st is gonna be a fairly late one.

See I'd rather use the 23 first and next years first + something else to bring back Lindholm. Unless we get the sense that the cap for 24-25 is going to be about 8-9m higher than it will for 23-24 Miller, with a contact that goes until he's 38 at a first line player hit, makes no sense here

 

[EXTRAS]

Why would we trade the younger, defensively sound center for the much older center that has found that part of his game lacking? Let alone add to it?

Also, we're not saving money by trading KK and adding Miller. We're actually paying more there

Because one is among the top scoring centers in the league and one is not.

 

[Tryamw]

I don't think the value is that far off. Jt miller is a piece that could put a top team over the top. 100 points last year, beating any other canuck by 30 points.

Using kk money + cap saving on staals next contract would fit in miller's cap. And that 1st is gonna be a fairly late one.

If hes so good why is he being involved in so many trade proposals to the Canes.
We have $$$ this season next year we don't. And I think keeping a few of our guys is better than adding Miller

 

[Sigurd]

I know we shit on Miller trade proposals, and I too am not happy with a lot of the proposals I see, (in no small part due to Miller's rough contract at 30 years old; which Carolina treats like a leper), but putting that aside, I could see Miller being appealing to Carolina as basically the next best thing to a young super star player (since EP40 and Auston Matthews likely won't be available and we'd still probably get outbid again anyway) despite his age and contract. The price would have to not involve KK though. So, I doubt we get it done even so.

Even with Miller having a 99 point year last season, and an 82 point this season, long term, and contract wise, PLD is a center that will be available this summer that would be overall better than Miller IMO (again, long term). Miller is probably due for some point regression within the next 2-3 seasons anyway.

*edit* IF Carolina even considers Miller, hopefully Vancouver needing to get under the cap would lower the price from KK. Maybe Drury + Morrow + 2023 1st round pick at most. Even then, his contract still makes me want a slightly lower price lol.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Jat miller is a cancer on the ice. Which definitely carries into the locker room, despite what Canucks fans say.

While we can deal with one for one year, why would we go get one for 7 years? The 90 points ain’t worth the headaches from him yelling at teammates for not doing what he thought should be done.

 

[hockeynjune]

Jat miller is a cancer on the ice. Which definitely carries into the locker room, despite what Canucks fans say.

While we can deal with one for one year, why would we go get one for 7 years? The 90 points ain’t worth the headaches from him yelling at teammates for not doing what he thought should be done.

That would not play well on Rods ice

 

[HisIceness]

You guys know how Huberdeau struggled in Calgary this year and everyone was unhappy? Well that's what we'd be getting in Miller here. Pass.

 

[Svechhammer]

Rod would quit if we traded for Miller.

 

[Chan790]

The PP might want to consider spending time with a therapist after all of it's issues this season.

I think he meant Puljujarvi. (a.k.a. Poolparty)

I think "The Bison King" is a more apt nickname though...he's as big and dumb as a bison.

He could probably also use a sports therapist, now that you mention it.

 

[Sigurd]

You guys know how Huberdeau struggled in Calgary this year and everyone was unhappy? Well that's what we'd be getting in Miller here. Pass.

Yeah, good point.

That's the kind of regression that will probably happen in 2-3 years even if he stays with Vancouver as I said before. At least, that's what I expect at some point.

Hopefully Staal gets no more than 2 years with him gradually moving to 4C. KK is a 3C and the crying need down the middle is a RHS 2C like Lindholm. The Canes lost a ton of draws with guys being forced to go on their weak sides. It also helps with puck distribution to have a top 6 RHS because D's can too easily over overplay when all the C's are LHS. Obviously a sniper is also needed and more physicality in the top 6 and third pairing on D.

Great point about needing a RHS for a center man. I somehow forgot Lindholm was a righty.

85 in Maine tomorrow…feels like summa

This was refreshing after the disappointment against Florida. I loved seeing Svech and Pyotr smiling and laughing after the gut punch in the playoffs. It cheered me up.

 

[Sigurd]

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Pesce saying Raleigh is home really means a lot to me. Yeah, I've felt the same way about him; we drafted him after all.

Skjei seems also keen to re-sign. Makes sense he had a nagging injury for a little while after the Isles series.

Fast especially wants to re-sign based on his comments, and I hope we do re-sign him after how clutch he was with scoring huge goals in the playoffs this year (two different OT winners for example and tying up game 4 against Florida late in the 3rd period).

I don't think I could be a GM just because of the human element. Trading guys that love playing for the team, and especially ones that are also talented players? That'd be tough to do as a GM.

Oh, and Jarvis's comments are a gem. Such a lovable young man.

 

[bennylundholm]

Checking what degree of interest there would be in trading for Jets" Hellebuyck and Scheifele.
Ken Wiebe of Sportsnet wrote an article today saying Carolina could possibly be a trade partner for Winnipeg.
Jets need to break up this core as it has not been successful.
I think Carolina is close to winning it all next year.
Hellebuyck 1 year left on his 6.25 mill contract.
Scheifele, 42 goals, 1 year left at 6.25 mill.

Winnipeg would be looking at getting younger players/picks in return.

Any interest your way? What do you think the Canes would give up?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Checking what degree of interest there would be in trading for Jets" Hellebuyck and Scheifele.
Ken Wiebe of Sportsnet wrote an article today saying Carolina could possibly be a trade partner for Winnipeg.
Jets need to break up this core as it has not been successful.
I think Carolina is close to winning it all next year.
Hellebuyck 1 year left on his 6.25 mill contract.
Scheifele, 42 goals, 1 year left at 6.25 mill.

Winnipeg would be looking at getting younger players/picks in return.

Any interest your way? What do you think the Canes would give up?

im about as "mr no" as they come so take this with a grain of salt.

I dont see them interest in either. Scheifele is the anthesis of the type of center we target. He doesnt like defense at all. Winnipeg will want a lot because he just scored 40. We wouldnt even give up half what Winnipeg wants because he is such a poor fit and not re-sign him due to age.

Helley is in the same boat for age. Helley would have to be willing to sacrifice years to re-sign here as I dont think we would be overly invested in a goalie passed 35 years of age. Again we would want him more along the price of a rental not paying top 5 goalie price. I dont think y'all would be too interested in our offering price.

We would likely be more interested in PLD, signing him for a year and trying to re-sign him in January to see if he is a fit. Or if y'all go full nuclear, pay handsomely for Morrissey.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Pesce saying Raleigh is home really means a lot to me. Yeah, I've felt the same way about him; we drafted him after all.

Skjei seems also keen to re-sign. Makes sense he had a nagging injury for a little while after the Isles series.

Fast especially wants to re-sign based on his comments, and I hope we do re-sign him after how clutch he was with scoring huge goals in the playoffs this year (two different OT winners for example and tying up game 4 against Florida late in the 3rd period).

I don't think I could be a GM just because of the human element. Trading guys that love playing for the team, and especially ones that are also talented players? That'd be tough to do as a GM.

So WLOG.

 

[Sigurd]

Checking what degree of interest there would be in trading for Jets" Hellebuyck and Scheifele.
Ken Wiebe of Sportsnet wrote an article today saying Carolina could possibly be a trade partner for Winnipeg.
Jets need to break up this core as it has not been successful.
I think Carolina is close to winning it all next year.
Hellebuyck 1 year left on his 6.25 mill contract.
Scheifele, 42 goals, 1 year left at 6.25 mill.

Winnipeg would be looking at getting younger players/picks in return.

Any interest your way? What do you think the Canes would give up?

Among Winnipeg's forwards, the consensus among Canes fans on our board is that PLD would be our ideal target (especially since Kyle Connor seems unavailable). I also wouldn't mind getting Nino back. Overwhelmingly, most on our board do not care for Scheifele.

As for Hellebuyck, I wouldn't mind him if we would still have enough trade assets for a good top 6 forward, and if Hellebuyck will re-sign; since he's on the last year of his contract. Helly allows our goaltending to get a little younger, and we get a goalie who shouldn't been injury prone. At the same time, re-signing Andersen for 1-2 years wouldn't be bad either after how well he did in the playoffs.

*Edit* @bennylundholm You asked for our interest on our board, and I provided it in a civil and articulate way, then you laugh at my post because you didn't like it. Lol. Okay guy. Oh, I see you also laughed at another Canes fan that replied to you. Yeah, gtfo troll.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Svech and Koochie are too precious for this world and must be protected.