Player Discussion: official trade deadline 2025 // discussion thread

[cbjthrowaway]

I really wish that GMDW would swing for the fences. I think Boeser out of Van (Apparently he refused a 5x8 mil due to term and I would be happy to give him 6.) or even JJ Peterka out of Buffalo would be the way to really set this team up with depth now and into the future on the forward side.

I would give up so much to get peterka. his play style + high pace would fit very well with fantilli long-term.

feels like they'll aim for a useful roster player in return but they're clearly in rebuild mode. kinda feels like something around sillinger + the MIN pick might be appealing to them, though.

Additionally, I think given the Seth Jones return you have to trade Provorov and then flip assets. If Jones on that contract pulls back a 1st then what does Provorov return at 50% retained? you might even be able to pull back enough to go get Karlsson from Pitt and keep a 1st round pick.

the jones return makes me wonder more about severson's viability on the trade market. hot take but I have absolutely no issue retaining some money on severson (ex: retaining him down to $5m or $4.5m) and sending him somewhere like vancouver or edmonton.

 

[ViD]

I'd still put him as an upgrade vs Provorov, particularly paired with Denton, and you only do the deal because he is cheap and the Pens Retain

Deyton plus Karlsson would be an utter disaster defensively

would give up so much to get peterka. his play style + high pace would fit very well with fantilli long-term.

Peterka would be extremely expensive. I’m talking Cayden Lindstrom + expensive

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Deyton plus Karlsson would be an utter disaster defensively

florida always felt like the best landing spot for karlsson, but the jones trade took them out of the running for him. the market for karlsson is probably just dallas and detroit at this point.

columbus doesn't have a viable partner (shutdown-focused LHD) or the right lineup construction (he'd need to run PP1) to make sense as a destination for karlsson, and vice versa.

Peterka would be extremely expensive. I’m talking Cayden Lindstrom + expensive

I'd be fine with that (and I'm a huge lindstrom guy) but I think they're looking to retool and add some grit. sillinger would make sense given his age and reputation.

 

[Doggy]

the jones return makes me wonder more about severson's viability on the trade market. hot take but I have absolutely no issue retaining some money on severson (ex: retaining him down to $5m or $4.5m) and sending him somewhere like vancouver or edmonton.

That’s interesting. If Waddell could pull that off if be fine with extending Provy longer term if he is OK with playing the right side.

In that case Waddell would be a freaking magician. Best GM ever

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

Regarding Peterka, I'd love him on the Blue Jackets. However there just isn't a lot that Columbus would be willing to offer to Buffalo that the Sabres would accept. I suspect a package for Peterka would have to include Jenner or Lindstrom, maybe Fabbro, rather than Sillinger. If they do swing for a forward now that Nyquist is gone, I can maybe see a Bjorkstrand trade. Perhaps they can take on Arvidsson as a cap dump?

I can get onboard with the Soucy idea, you might get a pick back from Vancouver then too (I still don't think Severson is getting moved anytime soon, but I am more often wrong than I am right). Plus, there's some history there with Evason too, right? The Rangers being sellers gives me hope of K'Andre Miller again, but I suspect he is not very available.

I have accepted that Provorov most likely will not be traded and then walk as a UFA. If they do make the playoffs, then I will be fine with it even though I don't particularly agree with it. Playoff experience is important for the youth and Werenski highlighting the importance of making the playoffs sooner rather than later during his WhatChaos interview did not go unnoticed by me.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Regarding Peterka, I'd love him on the Blue Jackets. However there just isn't a lot that Columbus would be willing to offer to Buffalo that the Sabres would accept. I suspect a package for Peterka would have to include Jenner or maybe Fabbro rather than Sillinger. If they do swing for a forward now that Nyquist is gone, I can maybe see a Bjorkstrand trade. Perhaps they can take on Arvidsson as a cap dump?

I'd be shocked if they did anything beyond making small incremental moves at the deadline. summer seems like the time for big swings, especially if they do end up getting an offer for provorov that they can't turn down.

some big fish that could be out there this summer:

• jj peterka
• owen power
• jordan kyrou
• travis konecny
• mason mctavish
• colton parayko
• jared mccann
• vince dunn
• adam pelech
• hampus lindholm
• mackenzie weegar

some of those guys won't end up hitting the market but to varying degrees they're all potential targets.

I can get onboard with the Soucy idea, you might get a pick back from Vancouver then too (I still don't think Severson is getting moved anytime soon, but I am more often wrong than I am right). The Rangers being sellers gives me hope of K'Andre Miller again, but I suspect he is not very available.

soucy at this stage probably has negative asset value, which is good news for the jackets since they can easily absorb the cap hit. would much rather have him in the lineup than their other LD3 options (christiansen, jack johnson, harris).

also worth noting that soucy broke into the league playing under dean evason in minnesota. he did very well in third pair minutes back then – seems like an ideal fit.

 

[majormajor]

I think Peterka's value at this point is higher than most folks are imagining. He's not going to be traded for prospects or picks, you'd have to put an elite player out there for him. I don't see why he'd even be on the market? Where is this coming from?

Owen Power might get moved but he'd be a terrible fit for our D group. An all offense LD? Where do we put him? I suppose Mateychuk+ would be going the other way. I just don't see a reason why we would be interested.

Buffalo has some terrific young players pushing in Rochester now in Rosen and Ostlund. (I was astonished at Ostlund's slow start, I think this is a potential star player). And given that it is a dirt cheap ownership group, those rookies most likely are in top 9 roles for the Sabres next year. It looks like they'll sell on Greenway and Zucker. Maybe Tuch too (and he would be a great pickup for us) but I'm not sure how they make the cap floor if they cut that much. Jack Quinn is also very available, which makes a lot of sense for us if we have a top six vacancy but not so much if we're healthy and he gets pushed down, he doesn't offer much besides the goals.

Realistically, if there is a Sabre that switches to CBJ colors any time soon, I would guess Jason Zucker.

soucy at this stage probably has negative asset value, which is good news for the jackets since they can easily absorb the cap hit. would much rather have him in the lineup than their other LD3 options (christiansen, jack johnson, harris).

also worth noting that soucy broke into the league playing under dean evason in minnesota. he did very well in third pair minutes back then – seems like an ideal fit.

I was a Soucy fan in Seattle. I think he might make sense for us even if Severson isn't involved. Something like Soucy and a 2028 third for Jordan Harris. Or maybe they offer a little more if they want Christiansen or Hunt. Soucy is a huge rangy guy, something we don't have enough of.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

I think Peterka's value at this point is higher than most folks are imagining. He's not going to be traded for prospects or picks, you'd have to put an elite player out there for him. I don't see why he'd even be on the market? Where is this coming from?

I believe it was Seravalli who said something along the lines of many teams having called on Peterka and that he is a prime candidate for an offer sheet this off-season. So very little substance to it.

 

[majormajor]

I believe it was Seravalli who said something along the lines of many teams having called on Peterka and that he is a prime candidate for an offer sheet this off-season. So very little substance to it.

I suppose it's in the category of "Sabres ownership is braindead, we might as well try to get Peterka".

 

[koteka]

Owen Power might get moved but he'd be a terrible fit for our D group. An all offense LD? Where do we put him? I suppose Mateychuk+ would be going the other way. I just don't see a reason why we would be interested.
Realistically, if there is a Sabre that switches to CBJ colors any time soon, I would guess Jason Zucker.

The guy just turned 22. He is 6’6” and 226 lbs. You don’t think with the right coaching for a couple of seasons he could become a more well-rounded defenseman? I am not saying we should trade for him, but I think it is a little early to put him in the “all offense” box. I think the peer pressure of being with other Michigan guys might help him to focus more on defense.

Realistically, if there is a Sabre that switches to CBJ colors any time soon, I would guess Jason Zucker.

I 100% agree on this. I went through the rosters of teams out of the playoff race today and Zucker kind of leapt out as a cheap guy for us to potentially acquire. I was mostly looking for people with Cup experience, but a UFA wing that can score and has been in the playoffs in 9 different seasons, he might be a good add.

 

[stevo61]

The guy just turned 22. He is 6’6” and 226 lbs. You don’t think with the right coaching for a couple of seasons he could become a more well-rounded defenseman? I am not saying we should trade for him, but I think it is a little early to put him in the “all offense” box. I think the peer pressure of being with other Michigan guys might help him to focus more on defense.



I 100% agree on this. I went through the rosters of teams out of the playoff race today and Zucker kind of leapt out as a cheap guy for us to potentially acquire. I was mostly looking for people with Cup experience, but a UFA wing that can score and has been in the playoffs in 9 different seasons, he might be a good add.

He's 6'6" but he might aswell be 5'6". He doesn't play like a big man, maybe he grows up but right now the size is a trap

 

[CBJWerenski8]

FYI jones was never an option

 

[majormajor]

The guy just turned 22. He is 6’6” and 226 lbs. You don’t think with the right coaching for a couple of seasons he could become a more well-rounded defenseman? I am not saying we should trade for him, but I think it is a little early to put him in the “all offense” box. I think the peer pressure of being with other Michigan guys might help him to focus more on defense.

I am not putting him in a box for his whole career.

But what's relevant to us is what a D can offer in the near term. We're not at the start of a rebuild. We have Werenski and Mateychuk ready to roll, we don't have a spot for a (currently) all offense LD who needs big offensive minutes. We're not in a position to develop this sort of player.

 

[koteka]

He's 6'6" but he might aswell be 5'6". He doesn't play like a big man, maybe he grows up but right now the size is a trap

Seth Jones didn’t always play like he was as big as he was, but he did enough to make people aware of what he could do. Hit a couple of guys to show that you are willing to and the narrative will change.

I would rather add a defensive right D, so the point is moot anyway.

 

[stevo61]

Seth Jones didn’t always play like he was as big as he was, but he did enough to make people aware of what he could do. Hit a couple of guys to show that you are willing to and the narrative will change.

The narrative never changed with Jones, I don't think anyone was actually physically scared of Jones even if he had the body for it. You can't fake intensity. Jones was like Nash where you could piss him off and he'd answer but I dont think Power even has that

 

[Viqsi]

FYI jones was never an option

Some things never change.

 

[Fred Glover]

FYI jones was never an option

What a schmuck

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Obviously I don't know exactly what Waddell's deadline day plans are but piecing together what we do actually know:

1. It doesn't appear Waddell wants to sacrifice anything on the roster. Provorov, Olivier, JVR, etc are probably all staying. They've earned the right to try to make it in.

2. Waddell doesn't appear to want to trade either first round pick at this time. If he does, its for a player who will help us for years to come, not a rental. We have no idea what he thinks of certain prospects (Brindley, Svozil, etc) could they be used in a trade for a "bigger fish" rather than picks?

3. We do not have a 2nd round pick this year or next year. We have no 5th rounder this year, and two 4ths. We also have two 3rds and three 4ths next year. If we're looking at a rental, its probably going to come from that group of picks.

4. While there's still time to decide, there appears to be a lot more buyers than sellers. (Opinion) I anticipate a very quiet deadline across the league.

We know we're getting Gudbranson back soon. We know Monahan and Sillinger will be back eventually, and we know Chinakhov does exist. If the staff feels that Chinakhov WILL 100% return this year, then I don't think we have to make a move and can completely sit still. With that being said, in the event the staff doesn't trust Chinakhov, I think the only thing we "need" is a top 9 depth scorer.

Options (rentals):

Buffalo: Jason Zucker, Jordan Greenway
Chicago: Ryan Donato
New York R: Reilly Smith
New York I: Kyle Palmieri
Seattle: Brandon Tanev

There are so few true "sellers" that I had to reach and assume NYR and NYI are punting. Slim pickings

If the o/u on trades for us is 1.5, im taking the under.

 

[ViD]

Buffalo: Jason Zucker, Jordan Greenway
Chicago: Ryan Donato
New York R: Reilly Smith
New York I: Kyle Palmieri
Seattle: Brandon Tanev

Not sure I’m liking any of these options, but Palmieri looked good as of late

 

[S1N4TR4]

Not sure I’m liking any of these options, but Palmieri looked good as of late

he’s also been good at NWA lately.

5 points last 4 games there with 3 goals in that span.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[Doggy]

Obviously I don't know exactly what Waddell's deadline day plans are but piecing together what we do actually know:

...

Options (rentals):

Buffalo: Jason Zucker, Jordan Greenway
Chicago: Ryan Donato
New York R: Reilly Smith
New York I: Kyle Palmieri
Seattle: Brandon Tanev

There are so few true "sellers" that I had to reach and assume NYR and NYI are punting. Slim pickings

If the o/u on trades for us is 1.5, im taking the under.

This is part of the problem, if there are so few true "sellers" then the asking price for any of these guys goes up. Not sure I'd want to get into a bidding war.

 

[MissADD]

Given the state of the market, I doubt anyone blows them away with a Provorov offer. As far as forward help, Charlie Coyle is someone I would look at, Brock Nelson as well.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Columbus Blue Jackets​

The Blue Jackets were in on Gustav Nyquist before he was traded to Minnesota over the weekend and have made overtures at re-signing pending UFAs Ivan Provorov and Mathieu Olivier. So yes, after being presumed sellers for much of the season, they are operating like a buyer. There is growing internal belief that this group may be for real after unexpectedly hanging in the Eastern Conference playoff race all season and delivering two big wins over Detroit last week. As they continue looking for ways to bolster their forward group, Ryan Donato is a target of interest. But they’ve got plenty of competition there.

 

[Doggy]

Given the state of the market, I doubt anyone blows them away with a Provorov offer. As far as forward help, Charlie Coyle is someone I would look at, Brock Nelson as well.

Nelson might be the most coveted TDL acquisition, again don't want to get into a bidding war and overpay for a rental.