Official Tank Thread

[rahad]

He should finish around 7-12 this season. It would be nice to win the lottery one last time. We really need another top 3 pick.

 

[junyab]

Its so frustrating watching the Habs piss away a top 5 pick. We had it in the bag. We just needed to offload some guys when we were there. Then they go on a run and poof, its gone. We'll need to get extremely lucky that a top 15 pick makes a significant impact.

 

[Andrei79]

I miss a few games and the team completely details. Wth happened ?@

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You're preaching to the choir, sir



Reminds me of when we thought the same when we had Komisarek, Perezhogin, Balej, Plekanec, Higgins, etc, etc.

Apples and oranges. Demidov and Rinbacher are much better prospects than any of those guys were. And yes, some won't pan out. That's almost certain. But Fowler and Hage for example have awesome potential. Far more than any of the players you listed here.

Want to list players? Subban, Price, Galchenyuk and Max are far more comparable. Our only problem is that we had a terrible coach and didn't support them properly.

Stack rank best on best of prospects then vs now:

Price vs Demidov
Subban vs Hutson
Paccioretty vs Slaf
Galchenyuk vs Reinbacher
Plekanec vs Hage

For the sake of argument we can call that a draw.

But... this team also has a much better cast already here. CC, Suzuki, Guhle, Dach are already established. And we have a crap ton of other prospects and picks coming as well.

Maybe most importantly though, we have a competent GM and we aren't stuck with Therrien. That alone is a huge advantage.

Carey Price gave those teams a huge edge. He was good enough to win playoff series (let alone games) almost on his own. Right now we don't have a player of that caliber. But as we've seen, one player can't win it all. We've got so much more scoring depth on the way and if Fowler can land as a strong starter then we're really in the driver's seat going forward.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Its so frustrating watching the Habs piss away a top 5 pick. We had it in the bag. We just needed to offload some guys when we were there. Then they go on a run and poof, its gone. We'll need to get extremely lucky that a top 15 pick makes a significant impact.

I'm not as frustrated as you are. If anything I was hoping for a better season points wise.

And this draft doesn't seem as good as past years. Maybe we land another top ten... we can always try to move up if there's an exciting player there. We have tons to trade with.

 

[Guess]

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It seems like 11th overall gives you an approximate 1/3 chance of getting an impact player.

I dont think we're going to pick 11th, I see us anywhere between 4-10. The team had that boost in standings with the belief they would be in the mix, that's gone now. Guhle is gone for the season, Laine hasn't been the savior the players expected.

I don't see us being able to overtake Chicago, San Jose and Nashville but otherwise anything is possible.

 

[DAChampion]

I dont think we're going to pick 11th, I see us anywhere between 4-10. The team had that boost in standings with the belief they would be in the mix, that's gone now. Guhle is gone for the season, Laine hasn't been the savior the players expected.

I don't see us being able to overtake Chicago, San Jose and Nashville but otherwise anything is possible.

Ok, well here's the list of 7th overall draft picks.

There, the odds of an impact player rise to about 50%, maybe a little higher.

 

[habamillions]

I dont think we're going to pick 11th, I see us anywhere between 4-10. The team had that boost in standings with the belief they would be in the mix, that's gone now. Guhle is gone for the season, Laine hasn't been the savior the players expected.

I don't see us being able to overtake Chicago, San Jose and Nashville but otherwise anything is possible.

Thats the hope and then cgy finishing 11th would be awesome

 

[LaP]

You're preaching to the choir, sir



Reminds me of when we thought the same when we had Komisarek, Perezhogin, Balej, Plekanec, Higgins, etc, etc.

I must have missed where any of those guys broke a u20 record in a pro league.

 

[LaP]

Ok, well here's the list of 7th overall draft picks.

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There, the odds of an impact player rise to about 50%, maybe a little higher.

If i have 50% chances to win anything of substantial value i'm stoke. Also that's kind of the point of getting another 1st if possible. 50% with this one. Dunno 10% with the calgary one and another 5% with a 3rd one and total you're at 65ish %. Getting guys like Shitfilet, Hughes, Keller or Voracek for most of their prime via trade is imo quite hard and a lot harder than some fans seems to think.

 

[River Meadow]

Apples and oranges. Demidov and Rinbacher are much better prospects than any of those guys were. And yes, some won't pan out. That's almost certain. But Fowler and Hage for example have awesome potential. Far more than any of the players you listed here.

Want to list players? Subban, Price, Galchenyuk and Max are far more comparable. Our only problem is that we had a terrible coach and didn't support them properly.

Stack rank best on best of prospects then vs now:

Price vs Demidov
Subban vs Hutson
Paccioretty vs Slaf
Galchenyuk vs Reinbacher
Plekanec vs Hage

For the sake of argument we can call that a draw.

But... this team also has a much better cast already here. CC, Suzuki, Guhle, Dach are already established. And we have a crap ton of other prospects and picks coming as well.

Maybe most importantly though, we have a competent GM and we aren't stuck with Therrien. That alone is a huge advantage.

Carey Price gave those teams a huge edge. He was good enough to win playoff series (let alone games) almost on his own. Right now we don't have a player of that caliber. But as we've seen, one player can't win it all. We've got so much more scoring depth on the way and if Fowler can land as a strong starter then we're really in the driver's seat going forward.

Demidov is better than Perezhogin, yes.

Is Reinbacher really better than McDonaugh, Komisarek, etc? Let's see.

The only thing Guhle and Dach are established at is getting injured.

I like Hughes but again, let's see..... he was wrong on a few trades already.

MSL > Therrien for sure.

I agree we're in a better place NOW than in those days, but I don't know that it's so clear, aside from some bright spots like Hutson and Demidov.

 

[Habs]

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Gotta think Nashville gets things going at some point, right?

No sir you are wrong. First time in 20 + years.