Official Tank Thread

[Sorinth]

Not sure if I'd call Evans shooting at 27% "our young core succeeding". I'd be 100% off team tank if the recent good results came from the likes of Slafkovsky, Dach or Newhook playing at a newfound elite level, but that is just not the case. Aside from Hutson being a bright new spot, every U23 player on the team has either stagnated in their development or even regressed, and yet the team is clawing wins with good goaltending and bottom-6 players suddenly finding a new gear during a contract year. That's not a recipe for success, that's a recipe for disaster.

People overreact all the time when the pendulum swings in either direction, but the underlying numbers have stayed essentially the same during the whole season, and a bottom 5 finish is still the most likely course. Just got to hope that the goalies won't steal too many wins and that the likes of Evans or Armia either cool down or get traded for picks/prospects.

Seems like a strange time to make these claims. Our most recent good result was very much from guys like Dach and Newhook succeeding even though Evans did score again.

And the underlying numbers have changed fairly significantly over the past month and a half. During the first 15 games of the season we were 31st in CF%, 29th in GF%, and 31st in xGF%, since then we are 20th, 18th, and 23rd respectively. We were bottom-3 to start the season and have moved up to just outside the bottom-10, that's simply not "staying essentially the same during the whole season, and a bottom 5 finish is still the most likely course".

 

[Lshap]

Using raw goal numbers as your statistics is generally not a good choice, especially for such a low sample size where even a couple lucky bounces or empty net goals can sway the results significantly. If you look at expected goals for and against or even chances/high dancer chances for & against the Habs are a much worse team than you might think. We're dead last in the league at xGA/60 & High danger chances against, and bottom 3 in Corsi % and unblocked shots against. So essentially you could say that having the 21st best SV% in the league is a great result when you have what could be counted among the worst defences in the league.

Replacing Barron with Carrier has improved the underlying analytics somewhat, but at 5v5 this is still a bottom 5 team that just has two amazing finishers in Laine & Caufield and a bottom 6 forward group that is red hot in a way that is very unsustainable.

I'm referring to December, which is when we started to see real improvement. If you look at the entire season, yeah, the first two months were awful and really drag down the overall numbers.

Since the start of this month, possession numbers have been climbing. In fact, December's SAT% Close is pretty good – 13th in the league. Unblocked shot attempts close even better – 7th best. "Close" is the possession % I look at most, since the most time in a game is usually played within a goal. Our PDO is 100.8, practically even, so nothing to suggest we're being carried by goaltending.

Obviously it's too soon to say whether this is a trend, but at the very least this month has been a positive sign.

 

[DAChampion]

Replacing Barron with Carrier has improved the underlying analytics somewhat, but at 5v5 this is still a bottom 5 team that just has two amazing finishers in Laine & Caufield and a bottom 6 forward group that is red hot in a way that is very unsustainable.

If you leave out everything that's good about the Habs, what you have left is a bad team ;-)

 

[salbutera]

Replacing Barron with Carrier has improved the underlying analytics somewhat, but at 5v5 this is still a bottom 5 team that just has two amazing finishers in Laine & Caufield and a bottom 6 forward group that is red hot in a way that is very unsustainable.

The 3rd line Gallagher / Anderson has outplayed their opposition in all but a couple of games since start of the season - not sure what trend point defines being sustainable but coming into the season one of the teams strengths was the depth factor of the bottom-6

 

[SwiftyHab]

The rebel anti-tank forces are coming for this tank-empire thread after we win this game.

You’ve been warned

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

The rebel anti-tank forces are coming for this tank-empire thread after we win this game.

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You’ve been warned

 

[Riggins]

I'd like to turn in my resignation.

(But I want the option to come back during the next losing streak)

 

[SwiftyHab]

The rebel anti-tank forces are coming for this tank-empire thread after we win this game.

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You’ve been warned

I told you I’d come for you

 

[vokiel]

Tank's headed to the garage, bunch of sorry ass winners!

The draft looks weak anyhow.

 

[themilosh]

Tank's headed to the garage, bunch of sorry ass winners!

The draft looks weak anyhow.

Gotta be bottom 4 to pick a stud. Otherwise, go RHD! Hensler and/or Mrtka

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I told you I’d come for you

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I’m pretty anti-AI but those two tiny tie fighters lol

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

See when our ''core players'' score and win us games I can live with it but I fail to see how goals and wins courtesy of Armia, Dvorak, Gallagher and even Evans help us in any way, shape or form. None of these guys are part of the future.

Can we just please trade some of them now that their value is at the highest it'll ever be and if we keep winning with even more rookies on the team so be it I won't complain.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Nope, not doing it, as I said this team is better than what they've shown thus far. I have all the patience in the world for this rebuild and realize we're going to struggle at times, but IMO this year was all about being a transitional one with progress across the board, that is/was the expectation.

We've epically struggled out of the gate, but I'm positive this team will turn it around and all this handwringing and moaning about the state of this organization and it's coaching will be seen as nothing more than emotional hot takes that will be looked at as silly in hindsight.

Can it be better? Absolutely. Will it get better? I'm of the belief it will.

Dach, shaking off the dust as the season progresses will help immensely, Slaf rounding back into form as well, (seems traditionally like a slow starter) Laine will help, the young D will progress etc..

All is fine. It may have it's ugly moments, but a rebuild is gonna be that way at times.

 

[Sorinth]

See when our ''core players'' score and win us games I can live with it but I fail to see how goals and wins courtesy of Armia, Dvorak, Gallagher and even Evans help us in any way, shape or form. None of these guys are part of the future.

Can we just please trade some of them now that their value is at the highest it'll ever be and if we keep winning with even more rookies on the team so be it I won't complain.

If Guhle's shot goes off a Tampa's player skate instead of Dvorak's or Heineman shoots instead of passes on a 2-1 should that really change your opinion on the game in any way?

The young guys were hugely important to 3 of the 4 non-empty net goals. And really the takeaway should probably be the shot totals which everyone vet, young, core, depth, contributed to.

 

[salbutera]

See when our ''core players'' score and win us games I can live with it but I fail to see how goals and wins courtesy of Armia, Dvorak, Gallagher and even Evans help us in any way, shape or form. None of these guys are part of the future.

Can we just please trade some of them now that their value is at the highest it'll ever be and if we keep winning with even more rookies on the team so be it I won't complain.

The future is now - playing meaningful high intensity games into April and potentially playoffs is important for development of over 52% of the roster that are “part of the future”

 

[Boyon90]

 

[Bacchus1]

Tank is over. We are back to a bubble team.

Yeah, so far it seems like we may have turned a corner.

If we keep this up, I can see is challenging for a playoff spot. I was hoping for a top pick, but if I have to suffer through a playoff drive, that is good too!

 

[DAChampion]

Tanks can be beaten by landmines, panzerfausts, lancet drones, and other tanks.

And also by Laine, Carrier, and Dobes.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Yeah, so far it seems like we may have turned a corner.

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If we keep this up, I can see is challenging for a playoff spot. I was hoping for a top pick, but if I have to suffer through a playoff drive, that is good too!

You heard the man!


Shut down this thread!

 

[Erika]

Tank is over for now folks, move out... nothing to see here.

 

[Kennerback]

We did it all wrong Tank Bros.

 

[Tuggy]

 

[Bouboumaster]

The rebel anti-tank forces are coming for this tank-empire thread after we win this game.

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You’ve been warned

This is f***ing hilarious

 

[HuGort]

Tank's headed to the garage, bunch of sorry ass winners!

The draft looks weak anyhow.

We got Caufield and Guhle with 15th and 16th picks. Likely where we pick next draft.

 

[LaP]

Tank is over for now folks, move out... nothing to see here.

Not at all. KH is stupid if he doesn't sell at the deadline.