Official Tank Thread

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Why can't you have both? For every Edmonton/Toronto example . You can say the same for Chicago and Pittsburgh. Team can build around one or multiple superstar. Florida has probably the worst example to give. They have a rooster full of superstar. Barkov (#2) both Sam (drafted top 5), Tkachuk and Ekblad.....

Draft a superstar and build the team around him. Like Florida did with Barkov.

Bergevin failed to build a team around Carey Price
They don't have a single 'superstar' just a bunch of good hockey players that are big, tough to play against, and care a whole lot.
 
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Leo Carlesson isn't good?

He's certainly not the player you hope for when you get a top pick, you want to fail for a generational talent.

Probably similar. Nothing wrong with Carlsson and Fantilli. Carlsson needs a real coach and Fantilli decent linemates.

Just hoping for a franchise 'star' player, for once in my life
 

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He's certainly not the player you hope for when you get a top pick, you want to fail for a generational talent.



Just hoping for a franchise 'star' player, for once in my life

Yes, most teams have to draft top 5 multiple years within a 5 to 7 year period to get a generational talent. That's how it was for the caps, pens, oilers, and avs.
 

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Yes, most teams have to draft top 5 multiple years within a 5 to 7 year period to get a generational talent. That's how it was for the caps, pens, oilers, and avs.

The Pens certainly made no bones they were going to get Sid no matter what, even sat their good players and goalie to make sure they tanked for Crosby. I hate that franchise so much
 
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The Pens certainly made no bones they were going to get Sid no matter what, even sat their good players and goalie to make sure they tanked for Crosby. I hate that franchise so much
I was to young to remember pre Crosby hockey era (started following NHL with Crosby/Ovechkin debut) but how could Pens have tanked for Crosby, wasn’t 2004-2005 a lockout?
 

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I was to young to remember pre Crosby hockey era (started following NHL with Crosby/Ovechkin debut) but how could Pens have tanked for Crosby, wasn’t 2004-2005 a lockout?

it was an unusual lottery but it was still weighted to favor the couple of tankers from the previous seasons
 
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They don't have a single 'superstar' just a bunch of good hockey players that are big, tough to play against, and care a whole lot.
Tkachuk has 2x100pts season and Barkov is one of the best 2 way center in the league. They are ''superstar'' in the league. Reinhart is having another monster season....
 
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HabsCode

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it was an unusual lottery but it was still weighted to favor the couple of tankers from the previous seasons
Yeah but I don’t understand the sitting their players and goalie part to tank for a Crosby. I mean they did this in 2003-2004? How could they have predicted it would have an impact on Crosby lottery?
 

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Tkachuk has 2x100pts season and Barkov is one of the best 2 way center in the league. They are ''superstar'' in the league. Reinhart is having another monster season....

Nah. Superstars sell tickets when they come to town. People could care less about either of those two, but they will pay more to see Crosby, McDavid , Ovy.. the league only had a few 'superstars' the rest are just really good players. Barkov isn't marketable, he is a 'star player' but no 'superstar'. I think our opinion of 'superstar' is way different.
 
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The Pens certainly made no bones they were going to get Sid no matter what, even sat their good players and goalie to make sure they tanked for Crosby. I hate that franchise so much
Can’t believe they sacrificed kulture for that. Did the team ever get over it? 💀
 
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Can’t believe they sacrificed kulture for that. Did the team ever get over it? 💀

You build a winning culture by stacking high end talent that have compete already built into them. N'est-ce pas?

Say what we may to mock the Pens, they've long mastered the art of the tank. They are the tank masters.
 

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