OT: Official Sports Media Thread 2 (TV, Radio, Print) MOD WARNING in OP

[GloryDaze4877]

Plus they win a lot, so that helps.

The Bruins should be getting killed, but they aren't. Not sure what the Bruins have done to escape the wrath of the media.

They should be feeling the wrath of the media and getting killed because they narrowly missed the playoffs two years in a row, finishing with 93 and 96 points and are currently in a playoff spot? Don't get me wrong, there are definitely things worth criticizing with the team, but "killing" them for being better than 50% of the league and worse than 50%? The fact that you think they should be feeling the wrath of the media says more about today's culture of sport and being a "fan" than it does the team IMO.

I want insightful analysis from the media covering the team, not over the top frothing at the mouth. I get plenty of that here on HF.

 

[Therick67]

They should be feeling the wrath of the media and getting killed because they narrowly missed the playoffs two years in a row, finishing with 93 and 96 points and are currently in a playoff spot? Don't get me wrong, there are definitely things worth criticizing with the team, but "killing" them for being better than 50% of the league and worse than 50%? The fact that you think they should be feeling the wrath of the media says more about today's culture of sport and being a "fan" than it does the team IMO.

I want insightful analysis from the media covering the team, not over the top frothing at the mouth. I get plenty of that here on HF.

If you want to switch out 'killing' them for 'criticizing' them.. That's fine.

We can debate the words, but I feel it's safe to say this organization has gotten a pass for whatever reason.

This team's desc ion making has put them in the position they've been in. Not bad luck, old age or anything else.

As far as the bolded, media has been giving teams it's wrath for decades, it's nothing new or today's culture.

I don't want over the top frothing at the mouth analysis, or just giving them a free pass either. A middle ground exists.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

If you want to switch out 'killing' them for 'criticizing' them.. That's fine.

We can debate the words, but I feel it's safe to say this organization has gotten a pass for whatever reason.

This team's desc ion making has put them in the position they've been in. Not bad luck, old age or anything else.

As far as the bolded, media has been giving teams it's wrath for decades, it's nothing new or today's culture.

I don't want over the top frothing at the mouth analysis, or just giving them a free pass either. A middle ground exists.

I'm fine with that. I guess I took your original statement too literally. I have always preferred the "step back" and analyze approach to the "wrath" style analysis employed by many media members (this has been true for me for years, not just lately).

 

[Therick67]

I'm fine with that. I guess I took your original statement too literally. I have always preferred the "step back" and analyze approach to the "wrath" style analysis employed by many media members (this has been true for me for years, not just lately).

No worries, I probably should have used words that more accurately describe my thoughts.

I just haven't seen or heard much in the way of questioning whats going on with this team. It feels patient for a place where the Sox and Patriots take a good amount of criticism, despite being more successful over the last 20 years than the Bruins.

Belichick was getting a good amount of crap for trading Jamie Collins. Meanwhile, the Bruins keep shedding NHL talent for draft pick/prospects.

I certainly hope they develop these kids into stars and go on a great run of success, but it's far from certain.

Just not understanding how a team that isn't all that fan friendly, doesn't talk much and will likely miss the playoffs for a third straight season doesn't get a little more criticism...especially considering (IMO) they've done it to themselves.

 

[jgatie]

No worries, I probably should have used words that more accurately describe my thoughts.

I just haven't seen or heard much in the way of questioning whats going on with this team. It feels patient for a place where the Sox and Patriots take a good amount of criticism, despite being more successful over the last 20 years than the Bruins.

Belichick was getting a good amount of crap for trading Jamie Collins. Meanwhile, the Bruins keep shedding NHL talent for draft pick/prospects.

I certainly hope they develop these kids into stars and go on a great run of success, but it's far from certain.

Just not understanding how a team that isn't all that fan friendly, doesn't talk much and will likely miss the playoffs for a third straight season doesn't get a little more criticism...especially considering (IMO) they've done it to themselves.

It's the "click-bait" culture of journalism, coupled with the long held tradition of Boston writers/fans devouring their own. Combine the two and you see why it's become lucrative to say outrageous things, ala Felger, in order to drive ratings/clicks. That's why you have him saying "Brady did it" for two years when I'm not even sure Felger believed it himself. Or "I think it is time to discuss trading Bergeron". Two things that drove the audience crazy and thus, drove ratings.

It's why guys like Haggs can report nonsense, time after time after time, and still keep a job because idiots like us link to his articles. Hell, it's been Shaughnessey's entire shtick for years now. How many other writers could get away with writing the same article dozens of times (Soccer stinks. The Bruins are going nowhere without a coaching change. The Patriots are playing a tomato can.)?

The only reason you don't hear/see it as much for the Bruins is because interest is down, so the ears/eyes they are trying to sucker in with the outrageous statements aren't there to take the bait. Don't worry, let the B's make a run and you will hear it again; those who-ahs of the mic/keyboard simply can't help themselves.

 

[the overrated]

It's the "click-bait" culture of journalism, coupled with the long held tradition of Boston writers/fans devouring their own. Combine the two and you see why it's become lucrative to say outrageous things, ala Felger, in order to drive ratings/clicks. That's why you have him saying "Brady did it" for two years when I'm not even sure Felger believed it himself. Or "I think it is time to discuss trading Bergeron". Two things that drove the audience crazy and thus, drove ratings.

It's why guys like Haggs can report nonsense, time after time after time, and still keep a job because idiots like us link to his articles. Hell, it's been Shaughnessey's entire shtick for years now. How many other writers could get away with writing the same article dozens of times (Soccer stinks. The Bruins are going nowhere without a coaching change. The Patriots are playing a tomato can.)?

The only reason you don't hear/see it as much for the Bruins is because interest is down, so the ears/eyes they are trying to sucker in with the outrageous statements aren't there to take the bait. Don't worry, let the B's make a run and you will hear it again; those who-ahs of the mic/keyboard simply can't help themselves.

The last paragraph there hit the nail on the head, IMHO. The B's aren't getting much criticism because they're currently pretty irrelevant. They're not going to take much (if any) attention away from the Pats & the NHL playoffs, and once that season is over, the interminable baseball season will be about to start & the Sox will take up that attention. The B's just aren't relevant enough to be overly critical of right now, at least in the sense of drawing ratings or page-clicks.

 

[chizzler]

Plus they win a lot, so that helps.

The Bruins should be getting killed, but they aren't. Not sure what the Bruins have done to escape the wrath of the media.

The media is too busy polishing Belicheks ring in his back pocket.

 

[Gee Wally]

Plus they win a lot, so that helps.

The Bruins should be getting killed, but they aren't. Not sure what the Bruins have done to escape the wrath of the media.

I disagree. They are pretty much meeting general expectations. There isnt much to write about right now that hasnt been written.

 

[Fenway]

The Bruins beat reporters are there to report not criticize. It is up to the columnists at the paper to do the heavy lifting and in Boston none of the columnists cares about hockey. When was the last time Gasper and Buckley did a Bruins story? CHB does on average 2 Bruins columns a year.

Nobody in this town was harsher to the Bruins and ownership than Will McDonough and yet when he died Jacobs donated the arena for Will's wake.

KPD could put the heat on but since he is the only writer in town with access to Jacobs declines to do so. On radio Dale Arnold is compromised because he is also a NESN host and then you have Felger and Mazz.

The reality is when news happens with the Bruins the story is broken by a Toronto based reporter.

 

[smithformeragent]

I disagree. They are pretty much meeting general expectations. There isnt much to write about right now that hasnt been written.

I think there's a distinction to be made here.

The team, as presently constituted, is meeting, perhaps exceeding expectations.

The argument can be made that the organization is failing.

Felger and Mazz have been fair and critical in their treatment of the organization, despite their station's obvious ties to the club.

 

[Gee Wally]

I think there's a distinction to be made here.

The team, as presently constituted, is meeting, perhaps exceeding expectations.

The argument can be made that the organization is failing.

Felger and Mazz have been fair and critical in their treatment of the organization, despite their station's obvious ties to the club.

I dont disagree with you. But Felger and Mazz I lrt go in one ear and out the other. If they werent pot stirring on any subject theyd be out of work.
Having said that I dont think many folks really give a damn about the Bruins this year.
Qualifier - we here do not count in that statement.

Now the Pats are readying for playoff game and shot at another championship. Pitchers and catchers report in about a month? The Celtics are at least entertaining. More and more press is being given to college hockey lately.

I think when the players, coach, GM, and now President all come out with how frustrated they are yet nobody says what if anything they are going to do about it or takes action to show thus then the majority or fringe fans become ambivalent.

That my opinion anyway.

 

[Fenway]

I think there's a distinction to be made here.

The team, as presently constituted, is meeting, perhaps exceeding expectations.

The argument can be made that the organization is failing.

Felger and Mazz have been fair and critical in their treatment of the organization, despite their station's obvious ties to the club.

The Bruins are exactly what most of us thought they would be this season - a .500 club.

The surprises in the Atlantic Division are the rise of Ottawa and Toronto and the failure of both Florida based clubs. Where I fault the media is that nobody harps on the team being lackluster at home which is the primary reason they are walking a tightrope for a playoff spot.

 

[smithformeragent]

I agree, Wally.

When the Red Sox suck, it's a story.

If the Patriots ever suck again, it'll be a story.

When the Celtics and Bruins underperform, it's a non-story and they fade into obscurity, especially while the other two teams are still playing.

And yes, Felger and Mazz are trolls.

 

[Lost Horizons]

Now a days who get's cover and to what degree has more to do with who owns the tv/radio etc rights more then anything. Even when the C's sucked balls their partners at csn and 98.5 covered them more then the b's who were winning. Yes, the b's are on 98.5 but their tv rights are held by nesn so 98.5 who has a deal with csn has less of a reason to cover the competition. They heavily cover the c's no matter what. The nfl has just about a deal with every channel nbc,abc,cbs and 98.5 is Patriots Radio Network etc and csn has a slew of nfl programs to cross promote.

 

[08SeaBass08]

It's the "click-bait" culture of journalism, coupled with the long held tradition of Boston writers/fans devouring their own. Combine the two and you see why it's become lucrative to say outrageous things, ala Felger, in order to drive ratings/clicks. That's why you have him saying "Brady did it" for two years when I'm not even sure Felger believed it himself. Or "I think it is time to discuss trading Bergeron". Two things that drove the audience crazy and thus, drove ratings.

Completely true, and Chad Finn wrote a piece on how ratings show that's what listeners seem to prefer, despite all our claims to the contrary.

Yesterday, Felger was saying Aaron Rodgers is better than Brady. There's only one reason anyone would say that on Boston sports radio.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

Completely true, and Chad Finn wrote a piece on how ratings show that's what listeners seem to prefer, despite all our claims to the contrary.

Yesterday, Felger was saying Aaron Rodgers is better than Brady. There's only one reason anyone would say that on Boston sports radio.

I think he might secretly be a fan of all things Wisconsin. He defended the Packers for over-inflating footballs, and when people called him out on that while questioning the Pats, he was quick to dismiss it. When they do their March Madness minute he almost always predicts that the Badgers will go on a deep run, even if they're not a top seed, and he mentions that the Badgers football team is really the only college football that he watches.

 

[Therick67]

Felger is from Wisconsin and owns a share in the team. He said Rodgers throws a better deep ball, but I don't think he said Rodgers is a better QB.

 

[Fenway]

Discussing the possibility of Roger Goodell coming to Foxboro for a playoff game, Mike Felger is alerted to Dave Pornoy's stance.

http://www.csnne.com/video/felger-disgrace-portnoy-wish-bodily-harm-goodell

 

[Johnnyduke]

This reminds me of stooges like Jon Heyman who think Curt Schilling actually wants to kill reporters. Felger can't possibly believe that Portnoy really supports physically harming Roger Goodell. It's just part of the barstool shtick.

 

[BMC]

Discussing the possibility of Roger Goodell coming to Foxboro for a playoff game, Mike Felger is alerted to Dave Pornoy's stance.

http://www.csnne.com/video/felger-disgrace-portnoy-wish-bodily-harm-goodell

If Goodell shows up in Foxboro the stadium authorities will have to hire the entire Massachusetts State Police to protect the guy

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Discussing the possibility of Roger Goodell coming to Foxboro for a playoff game, Mike Felger is alerted to Dave Pornoy's stance.

http://www.csnne.com/video/felger-disgrace-portnoy-wish-bodily-harm-goodell

This reminds me of stooges like Jon Heyman who think Curt Schilling actually wants to kill reporters. Felger can't possibly believe that Portnoy really supports physically harming Roger Goodell. It's just part of the barstool shtick.

If Goodell shows up in Foxboro the stadium authorities will have to hire the entire Massachusetts State Police to protect the guy

He would be in a luxury box where no one could touch him or be in range of throwing anything so it is just Felger trolling as usual.

 

[Therick67]

How is Felger trolling?

I don't hear him saying anything unreasonable in that clip. Just people hearing Felgers name and not actually listening to what is said.

 

[ReggieMoto]

Couple of items in here, one regarding Gallant and his departure from the Panthers and another rather brief report on the damage to Chiller and McQuaid.

Atlantic Division Notes: Gallant, Ryan, Miller, McQuaid

 

[Johnnyduke]

How is Felger trolling?

I don't hear him saying anything unreasonable in that clip. Just people hearing Felgers name and not actually listening to what is said.

To me it's some level of trolling. He makes it seem like Portnoy REALLY encourages bodily harm against Goodell when I think people should realize that's just a barstool shtick.

 

[DKH]

Turned on WEEI while walking dog and surprise hear Ty Anderson on the Hockey Show.

Ty knows his stuff glad to get this surprise