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*OFFICIAL* Moncton Wildcats 2013-2014 Thread

lavoy

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Catz said:
Ya I told everyone the day danault was acquired that barb wasn't going the other way. But since some people are jealous of others inside info they don't believe. Guess all the big q league twitter people don't know as much as they thought.
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"yeah, told everyone Barb wasn't going anywhere at Christmas. I know way more than these chumps on twitter", lol, congrats.

Congrats on the 2013 Q title you predicted when you got Danault in January.. lol
 

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IHaveNoCreativity said:
I'd imagine sometime before or after the draft.

I would do it before, because I'd want him having some input in the draft picks, seeing as how he'll be coaching them.
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unless the coach is also the GM, they have very little say in draft picks. You would be surprised. I would guess the wildcats will hire someone from the pros or university, and they would have very little knowledge of the prospects anyway.
 
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When do you think they will decide on there new coach or is it decided and they wait to the M Cup is over to let it out.?
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They've had over 30 applications and RKI expects quite a few more candidates to show intrest after their respective leagues are finished playing. He stated this week that the draft belongs to Flynn and the coach has nothing to do with it hence I don't expect a coach to be hired until after the draft , probably sometime in July.
 

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I highly doubt that Flynn's contract will be renewed by RKI for the following season once he sees what is to be expected on the ice by the Wildcats for next season.
 

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Moncton knows who they are at this point. You can only double down and flip your way out of a rebuild once.....that is, use the return on a guy like Gormley to get better immediately, rather than picks and prospects. The Wildcats may rebuild faster than a lot of teams...draft a few Americans, a high end Euro....extra resources to get them to report.....but it'll have to be a real rebuild.
 
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ZombieRegDunlop said:
Moncton knows who they are at this point. You can only double down and flip your way out of a rebuild once.....that is, use the return on a guy like Gormley to get better immediately, rather than picks and prospects. The Wildcats may rebuild faster than a lot of teams...draft a few Americans, a high end Euro....extra resources to get them to report.....but it'll have to be a real rebuild.
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Well said sir.
 
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Hiya guys..long time no speak.
Lost track of the Q a little when the NHL restarted.
Jumped back onto the CHL leagues with the start of the Memorial Cup, and am trying to fill in the blanks.
Dont want to bring up bad memories, but what exactly happened in the playoffs (I dont mean to sound facetious,and can see that the Wildcats went out in the first round) but what went wrong?
 
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johnnydrum said:
Hiya guys..long time no speak.
Lost track of the Q a little when the NHL restarted.
Jumped back onto the CHL leagues with the start of the Memorial Cup, and am trying to fill in the blanks.
Dont want to bring up bad memories, but what exactly happened in the playoffs (I dont mean to sound facetious,and can see that the Wildcats went out in the first round) but what went wrong?
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They were inconsistent all year , a real Jeckyll and Hyde team. They ran into an underrated Victoriaville squad and were out played , outworked and out coached. Big players (Jaskin,Veilleux,Narbonne and others) disappeared and we're shutdown by Victo's 1-4 and 1-3-1 system. Whitney also played incredible while as Dubeau quite average. It's going to be a couple of re-building seasons ahead.
 
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WildcatMapleLeafs28 said:
They were inconsistent all year , a real Jeckyll and Hyde team. They ran into an underrated Victoriaville squad and were out played , outworked and out coached. Big players (Jaskin,Veilleux,Narbonne and others) disappeared and we're shutdown by Victo's 1-4 and 1-3-1 system. Whitney also played incredible while as Dubeau quite average. It's going to be a couple of re-building seasons ahead.
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Thanks Wildcat.
Crikey, it sounds like my beloved Capitals...lol

So sorry though, because I knew how excited you were at the start of the season, getting Barbashev/Jaskin etc.
So when you say "rebuild" I take it the Wildcats mortgaged a lot to acquire Danault etc?
The team still has Barbashev though right?
Could they use him as a good foundation for next year?
What have they got regarding picks and so forth?
 

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ZombieRegDunlop said:
Moncton knows who they are at this point. You can only double down and flip your way out of a rebuild once.....that is, use the return on a guy like Gormley to get better immediately, rather than picks and prospects. The Wildcats may rebuild faster than a lot of teams...draft a few Americans, a high end Euro....extra resources to get them to report.....but it'll have to be a real rebuild.
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Since the last run they made, how did they rebuild faster than a lot of teams?

I would characterize that supposedly rebuild as a means to get down flat faced quicker than others.

Clearly Flynn and RKI tried to skip some rebuilding steps and the foundation was simply not there.

Now they need a from ground up rebuild and they have no picks to speak of.
 
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chsb said:
Since the last run they made, how did they rebuild faster than a lot of teams?

I would characterize that supposedly rebuild as a means to get down flat faced quicker than others.

Clearly Flynn and RKI tried to skip some rebuilding steps and the foundation was simply not there.

Now they need a from ground up rebuild and they have no picks to speak of.
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I'm really hoping RKI can maybe pursuade LGM to come to Moncton. That would surely be the cure ...
 

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chsb said:
Since the last run they made, how did they rebuild faster than a lot of teams?

I would characterize that supposedly rebuild as a means to get down flat faced quicker than others.

Clearly Flynn and RKI tried to skip some rebuilding steps and the foundation was simply not there.

Now they need a from ground up rebuild and they have no picks to speak of.
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It's weird.....you straighten me out by telling me "Clearly Flynn and RKI tried to skip some rebuiding steps", but that's kind of what I said. They tried to flip their way out of a rebuild, and got burned. Nobody disputes that. Now they're faced with a true rebuild. Nobody disputes that either.

But to pretend that teams with undisputed deep pockets don't get some player personnel benefits in major junior is just being defiant. Teams that have ownership structures of dozens of people (relax, Cape Breton has that too) aren't drafting kids making NCAA noise. (This is where you tell me that I am seriously underestimating the new Titan ownership group at my own peril. Thanks in advance)
 

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ZombieRegDunlop said:
It's weird.....you straighten me out by telling me "Clearly Flynn and RKI tried to skip some rebuiding steps", but that's kind of what I said. They tried to flip their way out of a rebuild, and got burned. Nobody disputes that. Now they're faced with a true rebuild. Nobody disputes that either.

But to pretend that teams with undisputed deep pockets don't get some player personnel benefits in major junior is just being defiant. Teams that have ownership structures of dozens of people (relax, Cape Breton has that too) aren't drafting kids making NCAA noise. (This is where you tell me that I am seriously underestimating the new Titan ownership group at my own peril. Thanks in advance)
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you are right, they are able to get 2-3, sometimes more players with their deep pockets that otherwise, would not consider the Q. Unfortunately, that has created a 2 tier league. The WHL have taken steps to prevent this in the future with some serious consequences to the winterhawks (no picks in first 5 rounds this year and no first round picks from 2014-17), and so has the OHL with the spitfires. I really hope the Q at some point sends the same message to their teams. There are 4-5 teams that can acquire 100% of the players available, and then there are the rest of the teams that realistically can draw about 60% of the player pool to their location.

At one point the Sea dogs had 9 players that supposedly "committed" to the NCAA, but amazingly they all decided to go the junior route after "discussing" with the sea dogs. Everyone in this blog knows who the teams are, that is just one example.

Having said all of that, rebuilding is much more to do with good asset management, versus money. Some teams gather all the picks in the world, and still never get it right (BAT, CAP,PEI). Some teams, while maybe not full of cash to offer, have done a great job of getting everything they could from what they have, (BC, Val D'or, RN are some examples)
 
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