Confirmed with Link: OFFICIAL: Martin St-Louis is the 32nd head coach in Canadiens history (3 year contract)

[Vachon23]

 

[dcyhabs]

Well....I do. And from an outside perspective, it's probably the biggeset criticism I have with St. Louis. St. Louis is still a hockey player at heart. And after the practices, these little scrimmages he had with his assistants against players, having a lot of fun....I said not that long ago that I don't see how he'Ll suddenly go from that to you're fired.

He's having fun. He's comfortable. Why would he change that? My answer would be...to get a better bench. To help you as you are still a rookie coach. But that's clearly not how he sees it.

Well unlike when Bergevin, Therrien, Daigneault, and Lefebvre were all in their foxhole there isn't much pressure to win yet. As long as he feels the assistants are helping the players grow he doesn't have to care, yet, if they run the power play well or get the penalty kill working, or even set up a good system. You can do the stuff Bouchard talked about and put players in positions that aren't ideal to let them see what happens. In 2-4 years when there is pressure to win we'll see if MSL is still the guy and if he still wants the same assistants.

 

[JianYang]

I mean, msl is saying all the right things about player development, but I don't know if that aligns with a 3 year deal.

It's actually a pretty short window, and it makes him vulnerable to become a firable scapegoat relatively quickly as the losses mount.

But I guess msl is okay with it, or else he didn't have to sign, but it just feels like he is talking about a long term vision without an appropriate contact length. Hopefully it doesn't force Marty to change his vision in an effort to stay on board.

 

[Heffyhoof]

I like his words for MSL, but his entire first few sentences were the 'compliment the new guy by talking about how hard your job was' shtick.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I mean, msl is saying all the right things about player development, but I don't know if that aligns with a 3 year deal.

It's actually a pretty short window, and it makes him vulnerable to become a firable scapegoat relatively quickly as the losses mount.

But I guess msl is okay with it, or else he didn't have to sign, but it just feels like he is talking about a long term vision without an appropriate contact length. Hopefully it doesn't force Marty to change his vision in an effort to stay on board.

While we obviously focus on the players' development, we also need to remember MSL is also developing as a coach.

So when the Habs are ready to move to winning and be competitive, will MSL evolve to be the kind of coach who will coach to win and better run a bench?

 

[donghabs98]

We've come a long way

 

[Treb]

We've come a long way

Still flabbergasted he got a head coach job after the PIT debacle. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because I trusted in Bergevin (lol).

Not surprising he went jobless until his buddy Vigneault gave him a job. Hopefully this time he never pops up in any hockey related activity ever again. Unless it's the Leafs, then sure.

 

[Tyson]

I was somewhat optimistic when the Habs hired Bergevin but that came to a screeching halt the minute he hired Therrien. Despised him first time around and it only got worse.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

We've come a long way

those clips are ****ing painful. my god

 

[Kimota]

We've come a long way

I don't mind the hard ass coaches, personally. Always liked them when I played. I would love to know what was the situation in the second video, what game that was.

I think Serge Savard said it best though, when you hire coaches it's always for the need at present time. You hire a nice guy/pedagog(Perron) then the players become spoiled then you hire a hardass for a time to put some order(Burns), then a nice guy again(Demers) then a hardass(Tremblay), etc....

The biggest issue with the Therrien situation was that Bergevin didn't have the wisdom of a Serge Savard to realise that the Habs needed a change and he kept him too long. This lead to bad development and so forth.

 

[WeThreeKings]

We've come a long way

The first f***ing clip boils my blood. Not only is he actually not coaching at all and can't explain what he wants them to do. PK remains very calm and professional, has a question about what Therrien is asking him to do and he just says "SKATE! MOVE THE PUCK"

Like.. that's the equivalent of me getting called in to do a presentation on Astrophysics. I know absolutely nothing so I would just be saying vague things like that.

 

[Andy]

We've come a long way

I am dying of laughter at the second video. Who is #40 that just stops walking and turns around when Therrien comes in the room? LMFAO

When you consider where the game was going (more speed and finesse), what skills the actual core had, Therrien was the worst possible coach the habs had at the time. It was such a terrible fit.

 

[CaptainKirk]

The first f***ing clip boils my blood. Not only is he actually not coaching at all and can't explain what he wants them to do. PK remains very calm and professional, has a question about what Therrien is asking him to do and he just says "SKATE! MOVE THE PUCK"

Like.. that's the equivalent of me getting called in to do a presentation on Astrophysics. I know absolutely nothing so I would just be saying vague things like that.

Student: “Do you feel that information can escape a black hole once it transforms from a hermit kingdom to a vigorously open system?”

WTK: “………… SKATE! MOVE THE PUCK"

 

[Natey]

I am dying of laughter at the second video. Who is #40 that just stops walking and turns around when Therrien comes in the room? LMFAO

When you consider where the game was going (more speed and finesse), what skills the actual core had, Therrien was the worst possible coach the habs had at the time. It was such a terrible fit.

The only players who wore #40 under Therrien are Chouinard and Beaulieu. Considering the other players on the team, it's Beaulieu.

 

[Andy]

The only players who wore #40 under Therrien are Chouinard and Beaulieu. Considering the other players on the team, it's Beaulieu.

Ahaha. I love how he’s walking so casually and then he’s like “oh great, it’s Michel, let me go back”

 

[dcyhabs]

I don't mind the hard ass coaches, personally. Always liked them when I played. I would love to know what was the situation in the second video, what game that was.

I think Serge Savard said it best though, when you hire coaches it's always for the need at present time. You hire a nice guy/pedagog(Perron) then the players become spoiled then you hire a hardass for a time to put some order(Burns), then a nice guy again(Demers) then a hardass(Tremblay), etc....

The biggest issue with the Therrien situation was that Bergevin didn't have the wisdom of a Serge Savard to realise that the Habs needed a change and he kept him too long. This lead to bad development and so forth.

You have to alternate coach types and MB hired only one type and that matched the previous guy.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

We've come a long way

I don’t know what’s worse, Michel Therrien’s coaching and piss poor attitude or the Habs brass thinking anything positive could come from allowing this to air. I just can’t believe they allowed this shit to go public. Wtf was this management doing? Jesus this is embarrassing, but we were too f***ing dumb to realize it?

Mickey Mouse.

 

[BLONG7]

We've come a long way

Such a joke, that the habs had this clown for a coach!! TWICE!!!

Unbelievable...........................correct me if I am wrong, but after these types of foolish rants, was RDS told no more 24/7 going forward?

 

[HABitual Fan]

Well unlike when Bergevin, Therrien, Daigneault, and Lefebvre were all in their foxhole there isn't much pressure to win yet. As long as he feels the assistants are helping the players grow he doesn't have to care, yet, if they run the power play well or get the penalty kill working, or even set up a good system. You can do the stuff Bouchard talked about and put players in positions that aren't ideal to let them see what happens. In 2-4 years when there is pressure to win we'll see if MSL is still the guy and if he still wants the same assistants.

I know it probably would not have happened, but in a way I am sorry that we couldn't follow the Tampa coaching model. Promote Houle as the scapegoat for 3 years with the Habs, and have MSL develop the prospects in Laval, get to know them, gain coaching experience, and then get promoted like Cooper was to the NHL team.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I'm still pissed that we wasted a core that had two terrific #1Ds and a future HOF goalie, by hiring some of the biggest morons in hockey management history.

Can you imagine that in Bergevin's tenure, the equivalent of a full cap's worth, about 80 million of the money we put in the team, through tickets, cable rights, concessions, merchandise and it was wasted on these morons.

I hope Molson learned his lessons well.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Student: “Do you feel that information can escape a black hole once it transforms from a hermit kingdom to a vigorously open system?”

WTK: “………… SKATE! MOVE THE PUCK"

TELESCOPE AND CALCULATE!!

 

[Tuggy]

I remember when the lockout ended in 2013 being excited, but then I remembered Therrien was the coach and the excitement went away.

 

[durojean]

For my part, I feel like there is nothing that bad about the video. It is true that you play like you practice and Therrien was really good to get the best out of players for a short amount of time.

He was really good to get guys to have a good work ethic and to read who was and who was not in his game.

He was really bad for developping talented kids and he was a little too tight on the structure he wanted the guys to play in. He also had a lot of favoritism for certain guy and that worked against him.

All in all, he got result from the guys and was a better coach than the 2 guy who came after him.

 

[WeThreeKings]

For my part, I feel like there is nothing that bad about the video. It is true that you play like you practice and Therrien was really good to get the best out of players for a short amount of time.

He was really good to get guys to have a good work ethic and to read who was and who was not in his game.

He was really bad for developping talented kids and he was a little too tight on the structure he wanted the guys to play in. He also had a lot of favoritism for certain guy and that worked against him.

All in all, he got result from the guys and was a better coach than the 2 guy who came after him.

There's tons wrong with the video.

Do you have any idea of what he wants PK to do, other than practice like he plays? Cause it's extremely unclear what Therrien is asking from Subban. He just said skate and move the puck. Skate where, move the puck to who; when do I move the puck, is it after the first forechecker, before?

He couldn't communicate a god damn thing and instead just yelled at people.

At the end when PK, after being berated says "Coach, I have a question".. do you think Therrien gave a good response to that? Because he didn't give any additional information to PK.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

For my part, I feel like there is nothing that bad about the video. It is true that you play like you practice and Therrien was really good to get the best out of players for a short amount of time.

He was really good to get guys to have a good work ethic and to read who was and who was not in his game.

He was really bad for developping talented kids and he was a little too tight on the structure he wanted the guys to play in. He also had a lot of favoritism for certain guy and that worked against him.

All in all, he got result from the guys and was a better coach than the 2 guy who came after him.

Therrien was nothing more than a boot camp drill sargent.