Official Calder Thread 2019-2020

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Makar & Hughes both with 2 assists. 45 & 47 points now respectively, both clear of Dahlins impressive total last year.

These guys just continue to roll.

Dahlin was doing it at 18 his rookie year.

These guys are how old compared?

 

[AvsFan29]

Makar had his best game of his career so far. Easily could have had 5 points. Kid can skate.

 

[Didalee Hed]

There isn't a 60 point rookie defenseman.

If were going to go off projections, who's to say Kubalik won't score 40? The guy gets hot and carries the Hawks in goals for a week or two.

40 goals wins the Calder, over a 60 point defenseman, just sayin

Do your takes ever improve?

 

[SillyRabbit]

The thing that impresses me about Hughes is just how much of the Canucks offense goes through him.

He’s 12 points back of their leading scorer.

Contrast that with Makar being 39 points behind the Avs leading scorer.

Now of course this is because MacKinnon is much better than the Canucks leading scorer.

But at the same time, that means that Makar gets the benefit of playing with him.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Do your takes ever improve?

Name a 40 goal rookie who didn't win the Calder.

 

[Didalee Hed]

Show me a rookie who will s ord

Name a 40 goal rookie who didn't win the Calder.

Show me a 2019-2020 40 goal rookie.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Show me a rookie who will s ord

Show me a 2019-2020 40 goal rookie.

Sure. Right after I see a 60 point rookie defenseman

 

[Breakers]

Name a 40 goal rookie who didn't win the Calder.

Lindros and Sutter

Boom

 

[Didalee Hed]

Sure. Right after I see a 60 point rookie defenseman

@Breakers showed you two

And I didn’t ask for one

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Name a 40 goal rookie who didn't win the Calder.

eric lindros

barry pederson

rick martin

pierre turgeon’s brother

and believe it or not darryl sutter

 

[Canucks LB]

The thing that impresses me about Hughes is just how much of the Canucks offense goes through him.

He’s 12 points back of their leading scorer.

Contrast that with Makar being 39 points behind the Avs leading scorer.

Now of course this is because MacKinnon is much better than the Canucks leading scorer.

But at the same time, that means that Makar gets the benefit of playing with him.

This is a very very good post and point, and something somewhat refreshing.

 

[El Travo]

Dahlin was doing it at 18 his rookie year.

These guys are how old compared?

Did Hughes just get year younger'd?

 

[nowhereman]

There isn't a 60 point rookie defenseman.

If were going to go off projections, who's to say Kubalik won't score 40? The guy gets hot and carries the Hawks in goals for a week or two.

40 goals wins the Calder, over a 60 point defenseman, just sayin

No matter how much you want to stir the pot, a forward who gets outscored by a defenseman by a sizeable margin isn't winning the Calder. Sorry.

 

[Canucks5551]

Hughes was so good tonight. 27 minutes of ice time and he set and controlled the pace of play every single time he was out there. This may be the best season by a Canucks defenceman I’ve ever seen.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

@Breakers showed you two

And I didn’t ask for one

(Looks at both rookies stats)

Lol wat?

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

eric lindros

barry pederson

rick martin

pierre turgeon’s brother

and believe it or not darryl sutter

So it's been awhile.

Thanks

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

No matter how much you want to stir the pot, a forward who gets outscored by a defenseman by a sizeable margin isn't winning the Calder. Sorry.

And a rookie who pots 40 goals won't be denied a Calder.

Still looking for these 60 point rookie defenseman tho....

 

[CloutierForVezina]

There isn't a 60 point rookie defenseman.

If were going to go off projections, who's to say Kubalik won't score 40? The guy gets hot and carries the Hawks in goals for a week or two.

40 goals wins the Calder, over a 60 point defenseman, just sayin

There isn't a 60p defenseman (yet), and there also isn't a 30g rookie (yet).

The entire premise of the post was that Kubalik *could* hit 30g so I went along with it and even gave a low estimate for Hughes and Makar - both are on pace for mid 60s and we're 75% through the season.

Kubalik isn't in the conversation, except as a fringe candidate for 3rd place. He has 0% chance of beating Makar or Hughes.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Anyone have the full shift of Landeskog's goal that Makar didn't get an assist on? Makar did laps around the o zone laughing at everyone. This is exactly why he is winning the Calder no matter what the points results end in. No defenseman in the league is doing what he is doing.

 

[pomx]

Anyone have the full shift of Landeskog's goal that Makar didn't get an assist on? Makar did laps around the o zone laughing at everyone. This is exactly why he is winning the Calder no matter what the points results end in. No defenseman in the league is doing what he is doing.

Hughes is and a year younger and is doing it better so what’s your point

 

[howboutahug]

Hughes is and a year younger and is doing it better so what’s your point

In what ways is he doing it better?

 

[Spilot23]

Anyone have the full shift of Landeskog's goal that Makar didn't get an assist on? Makar did laps around the o zone laughing at everyone. This is exactly why he is winning the Calder no matter what the points results end in. No defenseman in the league is doing what he is doing.

I think Hughes is able to skate around he's a fast skater and so agile. I watched Hughes yesterday and most of the time when he touched he created something the same way as Makar (they were dominated in that 3rd period IMO). The Calder race is really close and will play down with the remaining games. Either way it's really interesting and it's sad that Olofsson was hurt the race would've been even better.

 

[Muffin]

Hughes is and a year younger and is doing it better so what’s your point

Doing it better how? Doesn't take a genius to figure out the player with 2 less points and 8 less games played is the better player.

Hughes lives on the PP and is a minus player 5 on 5. He's lucky Makar missed some games because otherwise this wouldn't even be a discussion.

 

[Muffin]

Anyone have the full shift of Landeskog's goal that Makar didn't get an assist on? Makar did laps around the o zone laughing at everyone. This is exactly why he is winning the Calder no matter what the points results end in. No defenseman in the league is doing what he is doing.

Hell he didn't even get a point this shift, that's Barzal chasing him around, the guy who won the fastest skater.

 

[Papa Francouz]

They're both coming into their own and they're both gonna be nuuuuuuuuuts in their primes.