Official 2025 4 Nations Face-Off Thread

[Tripod]

USA to win the whole thing thanks to shitty Canadian goaltending.

That's what I expect as well.

Idiot Hart could have been the starter for TC

 

[CutOnDime97]

4 teams is gimmicky but international hockey always rules. Much better than the ASG, you know guys will be playing hard.

 

[dragonoffrost]

4 teams is gimmicky but international hockey always rules. Much better than the ASG, you know guys will be playing hard.

It would probably have been 8 if things were different and I'll leave it at that.

 

[CutOnDime97]

It would probably have been 8 if things were different and I'll leave it at that.

It's NHL players only. I believe that's why Czechia and Slovakia aren't playing. So I don't think that would've changed things.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Wow.

I am so disconnected from the Flyers now that just today did I learn Sanheim was on Team Canada. I knew TK.

Good for them

They needed his experience as the 7th defenseman for Canada.

It would probably have been 8 if things were different and I'll leave it at that.

I know what you’re saying but they really want this to be a showcase of NHL players and outside of the country you are referring to, their isn’t a lot. Slovakia for example only has five active NHL players.

 

[dragonoffrost]

It's NHL players only. I believe that's why Czechia and Slovakia aren't playing. So I don't think that would've changed things.

It would have been different rosters, they would have changed it to make it larger. $$$$$ would have talked.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

If the players care, you get games worth watching. Works for basically every sport.

 

[dragonoffrost]

If you can't get to 8 maybe they went 6 with either a Europe or Young Guns team.

From reports even Finland is having a tight roster due to injuries.

 

[ellja3]

This is a good teaser before Olympics, that's all.

Please, no Team Europe or Young Guns, that was an abomination.

 

[Curufinwe]

Wow.

I am so disconnected from the Flyers now that just today did I learn Sanheim was on Team Canada. I knew TK.

Good for them

It is nice for them. It's unlikely Sanheim will be on the Olympic team, so hopefully he gets some game time in this tournament.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Please, no Young Guns, that was an abomination.

Whoa. Wait a minute. Team Europe was stupid, but do you mean the 2016 World Cup North American U23 thing? That was the most fun I've had watching an international team this century. They played with their hair on fire every second.

 

[Curufinwe]

It would have been different rosters, they would have changed it to make it larger. $$$$$ would have talked.

I don't think the NHL would get many extra dollars from adding extra European teams.

A three game series between US and Canada might have been more profitable.

 

[ellja3]

Whoa. Wait a minute. Team Europe was stupid, but do you mean the 2016 World Cup North American U23 thing? That was the most fun I've had watching an international team this century. They played with their hair on fire every second.

Yeah I did not like it. If it's Team USA/Team Canada, it's Team USA/Canada. If it is U23 All Stars, it is U23 All Stars. A mix (NA All-Stars) just... Eh.

 

[Curufinwe]

On 32TTP Friedman said the ad breaks are 30 seconds longer in the tournament, so that should mean extra rest and more ice time for the biggest stars.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Whoa. Wait a minute. Team Europe was stupid, but do you mean the 2016 World Cup North American U23 thing? That was the most fun I've had watching an international team this century. They played with their hair on fire every second.

I honestly hated it because it killed USA more than it did Canada. The over 24 group for the US was not really good at that time period. They of course exacerbated it more by making puzzling decisions.

I’m not saying they didn’t care but a good bit of those US guys probably could have been legit options for their roster if available. So they kind of were robbed of an opportunity to represent their country.

I don’t think USA would have won anyway over Canada but they would have put up a better showing if their entire talent pool was available to them I think. I think that would have eliminated some of the egregious roster decisions they made.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Both of those posts are completley fair. I just meant the actual hockey they played was incredibly fun in ways that don't really exist anymore now that we have to coach the fun out of the NHL.

 

[ellja3]

Hart dropped the ball big time w his literal f--kery

 

[dragonoffrost]

Hart dropped the ball big time w his literal f--kery

Binnington, Hill, Montembault..... YUCK

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

This is a good teaser before Olympics, that's all.

Please, no Team Europe or Young Guns, that was an abomination.

Woah there. The U23 team was the ONLY good part about that tournament and I say that as someone that went to Toronto for the Semi-Final games.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I honestly hated it because it killed USA more than it did Canada. The over 24 group for the US was not really good at that time period. They of course exacerbated it more by making puzzling decisions.

I’m not saying they didn’t care but a good bit of those US guys probably could have been legit options for their roster if available. So they kind of were robbed of an opportunity to represent their country.

I don’t think USA would have won anyway over Canada but they would have put up a better showing if their entire talent pool was available to them I think. I think that would have eliminated some of the egregious roster decisions they made.

I think it's made worse that we haven't been able to see the US ice their best lineup anytime between 2016 and now in 2025. That makes it a lot tougher to swallow.

 

[CutOnDime97]

U23 team was fun to watch but I still think it made the whole thing feel like a gimmick. Not getting that passionate over a U23 North American team. Just give me USA's best players on a team and let me cheer for them.

I'm sure some felt the same about Team Europe.

 

[tade]

If you can't get to 8 maybe they went 6 with either a Europe or Young Guns team.

From reports even Finland is having a tight roster due to injuries.

Please, never again. That tournament was a bad joke, can't take it seriously. That's why last 'best-on-best' tournament were clearly the Olympics 2014.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

I don't even know the schedule for this tournament. I'm assuming guys aren't going to play like it's the playoffs or anything, meh I might tune in for a USA game.

 

[VladDrag]

I'm looking forward to this tournament.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

I think the timing of that Team NA played a part in the excitement. To me, it was a glimpse into the future of the NHL with guys like McDavid, Matthews, Eichel, MacKinnon all on the same team. Most years, it wouldn't have had that same appeal.