Official 2025 4 Nations Face-Off Thread

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John Tortorella watching USA ice only 11 FWDs:

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Heiskanen-Ristolainen
Lehtonen-Vatanen
Kaski-Hakanpaa
Leppanen

Would be a better D... made up of guys who are either injured or ineligible.

Matinpalo is not amongst the best 15 Finnish Dmen right now... let alone 6.

They don't have a single Dman on their current roster who plays PP
I thought Matinpalo looked pretty solid.
 
It's not surprising but still disappointing that no one could even make a statement as simple as that. That shouldn't be remotely controversial

I think the first part of your sentence is key, It's not surprising.

If they make a statement, they have taken a political position, as an organization (Team USA) that is directly hostile to its own government, and contrary to the belief of half their country.

The same is true if they made a statement on the opposite end - that they do support annexation. They alienate the other half of the country, but directly align with their government.

Either way, I don't think it was ever in the realm of possibility that Team USA would make a statement. Silence was their only legitimate option in the current political and media climate.

Certainly cowardly. But I would expect no different in this bizarro timeline we're in.
 
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One of these things is not like the others.

If the American team, as guests in the country of Canada, had come out before the tournament and rejected the illegal takeover threats made by their country’s deranged dictator, then maybe their precious anthem would have got cheers instead of boos. Silence is complicity.
"But we were just small children, playing in the NHL, at the time, following orders. You can't blame us for what our dictator does. What influence could we have as famous men children in our country look up to?"

The simple, scary fact is that probably 80% of the US players are 1%ers who voted for Trump in the hopes a tax cut, so it's way past complicity. If you're not against the dictator, you're with him.
 
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I think the first part of your sentence is key, It's not surprising.

If they make a statement, they have taken a political position, as an organization (Team USA) that is directly hostile to its own government, and contrary to the belief of half their country.
Half the country don't want to annex Canada. They certainly didn't vote for it because that absurd idea only came up after the election.
 

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