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Arizonatah Coyetis said:
I haven't looked at stats and don't actually recall, but I hear it said that Crouse's decline started last season and continued into this one. IF that's true that's long before any talk of choosing captain could've gotten to his head, I'd think.
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In 84 games in calendar year 2024, Lawson Crouse had 11 goals and 15 assists for 26 points.
 
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Maccelli did practice today. Bjugy took the day off for "maintenance".

Bear has said the forward group is banged up a little so I doubt BA's going to move anyone before the TDL unless it's one of the D since we have plenty of them and three more waiting in the wings.
 
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TheLegend said:
Maccelli did practice today. Bjugy took the day off for "maintenance".

Bear has said the forward group is banged up a little so I doubt BA's going to move anyone before the TDL unless it's one of the D since we have plenty of them and three more waiting in the wings.
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It also seems that Kesselring is a popular trade target among fans of other teams, whereas he's probably the last guy out of all our defensemen we should be trading. I'd sooner trade Sergachev than Kesselring.
 
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Vinny Boombatz said:
I think the writing is on the wall with Maccelli, Bear has moved to a platoon strategy with Carcone/O'Brien, so basically leaving Maccelli as the 3rd wheel and he'll most likely get traded at the deadline. Here's hoping that it's for something good rather than just draft capital.
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As ineffective as Maccelli has been, do we have anyone in Tucson to try out for depth in case we lose a forward to injury who would be worth a shot? I’m not sure we do (but I could be wrong as I don’t pay any attention to Tucson). That’s why I would think we hang on to him, if only for insurance, unless we manage to trade him for another forward. Which, if we do, it’ll more than likely be as a throw-in alongside the real asset going out. Dumping him alone for a paltry draft pick doesn’t strike me as the best asset management.
 
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Summer Rose said:
As ineffective as Maccelli has been, do we have anyone in Tucson to try out for depth in case we lose a forward to injury who would be worth a shot? I’m not sure we do (but I could be wrong as I don’t pay any attention to Tucson). That’s why I would think we hang on to him, if only for insurance, unless we manage to trade him for another forward. Which, if we do, it’ll more than likely be as a throw-in alongside the real asset going out. Dumping him alone for a paltry draft pick doesn’t strike me as the best asset management.
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Down on the farm we have Sokolov and Yamamoto and that is about it as far as forwards go. I can't imagine Sammy Walker or Cam Hebig gets a call up. I guess Aku Raty or McCartney could get a shot, but they haven't been as effective as Sokolov or Yamamoto
 
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Summer Rose said:
It also seems that Kesselring is a popular trade target among fans of other teams, whereas he's probably the last guy out of all our defensemen we should be trading. I'd sooner trade Sergachev than Kesselring.
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Too bad Lamoureux had another injury. If he can avoid more shoulder issues we will have a force on the RHS.
 
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Summer Rose said:
It also seems that Kesselring is a popular trade target among fans of other teams, whereas he's probably the last guy out of all our defensemen we should be trading. I'd sooner trade Sergachev than Kesselring.
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Sorry, but that is the dumbest statement I have heard from a Utah fan this year. There is a huge difference in talent, play etc. They aren't even on the same tier of player, and Sergachev is only one year older. Sergachev plays on the PP and PK. He's a work horse. Don't get me wrong, Kesselring has been a pleasant surprise and has played very well, but come on, you would trade Serg before Kesselring is down right laughable.
 
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Summer Rose said:
As ineffective as Maccelli has been, do we have anyone in Tucson to try out for depth in case we lose a forward to injury who would be worth a shot? I’m not sure we do (but I could be wrong as I don’t pay any attention to Tucson). That’s why I would think we hang on to him, if only for insurance, unless we manage to trade him for another forward. Which, if we do, it’ll more than likely be as a throw-in alongside the real asset going out. Dumping him alone for a paltry draft pick doesn’t strike me as the best asset management.
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I agree. Don't understand AT thinking when it comes to Maccelli. Crouse is having a crap year and was benched for what, one game. Why is Maccelli being sat for so many games. The kid has a proven track record, try to get him going and get his confidence back.
 
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Jakey53 said:
Sorry, but that is the dumbest statement I have heard from a Utah fan this year. There is a huge difference in talent, play etc. They aren't even on the same tier of player, and Sergachev is only one year older. Sergachev plays on the PP and PK. He's a work horse. Don't get me wrong, Kesselring has been a pleasant surprise and has played very well, but come on, you would trade Serg before Kesselring is down right laughable.
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Well, I did put the kitchen scissors in the microwave over the weekend, so what does that say about my judgment anyway? :P
 
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Jakey53 said:
A GM's famous last words.
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Has he made a significant deadline deal in 5 years, meaning a trade that came up quickly? Other than Chych which took him 2 years? Zero chance anything significant happens, IMHO. We still have an outside shot at the playoffs so getting a second or third for a vet is not in the cards, better to keep the player and our fingers crossed. If BA can get a first for an expiring contract, then he should do it, I just don't see that happening.
 
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cobra427 said:
Has he made a significant deadline deal in 5 years, meaning a trade that came up quickly? Other than Chych which took him 2 years? Zero chance anything significant happens, IMHO. We still have an outside shot at the playoffs so getting a second or third for a vet is not in the cards, better to keep the player and our fingers crossed. If BA can get a first for an expiring contract, then he should do it, I just don't see that happening.
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Pretty much. It’s a seller’s market this year, so prices are a little higher, but I don’t think we have anyone who would fetch us a first (that we’re willing to trade). The market has been set already with Nyquist going for a second. I have my own opinion about thinking Bill Guerin was not smart giving up that much for a player like Gustav Nyquist, but regardless, deals are going to look roughly the same. I think Bill Armstrong makes a couple minor moves and we otherwise stand pat, unless another GM makes him an offer he can’t refuse (I consider this unlikely but I won’t rule it out entirely).
 
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I agree, our trade dead line was 2 months ago and we blew it. Now I don't think we should make any trades our players have returned from injury.

Except for Crouse, please oh please
 
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